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"WonÂt you come into the garden? I would like my roses to see you".- Richard B. Sheridan (1751-1816) English dramatist......The first time I saw that quote, I sent it to my wife and told her it was kinda how I felt about her and my roses....On that day I knew I was rose gardener of some kind or other.....and long, long time before that I knew I wanted my wife around anything that I loved or cared about. I'm not sure exactly what Sheridan meant by those lines but for me, they mean that he loved his roses dearly and had recently come to love dearly whoever it was he was inviting into his garden too....and he wanted the things he loved to be together with each other and himself
Paul from Alabama
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You can very easily check whether it is novi-angliae or belgii. If the leaves are hairy, then it is novi-angliae. Novi-belgii has smooth leaves. Additionally, novi-angliae closes its flowers in rain(with 1 or 2 exceptions), novi-belgii stays open. Judging only by the picture, the probability for novi-belgii is very low in my opinion. The plant looks too clumpy(novi-belgii has a running habit). Additionally by the time of blooming the upper leaves of novi-belgii would normally be covered by mildew and lower leaves would be eaten by other fungi, unless sprayed with tons of chemicals.There are a few varietes of novi-belgii that are more resistant to mildew, but they are European and mostly available in Germany.
November 24th. We had 2 nights with freezing. All chrysanthemum flowers survived , but white Poesie turned to pink now.
Some fresh shots:
Chrysanthemum Mary Stoker. Hardy in open places and stands well. Flowers are relatively easily destroyed by wind+rain.
Rudbeckia Herbstsonne pushed some flowers from dry-looking stems
My own seedling. Very hardy, very late, tall, very well standing up. I love robust plants which radiate energy.
Aster Freiburg
Small wine red buttons, own seedling, hardy.
Chrysanthemum Manito. Hardy. Similar to Schweizerland, but later and taller and slower growing.
Weigela tree.
Not many pictures left.
November 25th. Helenium Luc decided to push a new flower out of a dry stem. I wonder what it wants to prove... Here behind the phlox Herbstwalzer.
Mardi Gras made a green stem with a flower on it. How naive can they actually be?
Nuts on Davidia involucrata. I planted 3 nuts 17 years ago and 2 of them sprouted. One started blooming at the age of 15, the other one at 17. Gorgeous little tree.
I have discovered that one of my seedlings chrysanthemums is actually 2 different seedlings planted together. The small yellow buttons is the nice surprice.
I'm one of the last people who has any right to come across as the spelling police!
I wasn't sure if you really meant "healing" in.... To me the spelling changed it from a manly throw it in the ground- kick it with your foot kind of activity to one where you are trying to heal the poor plant of some kind of late season planting insult.... Maybe even talking to the plant and trying to work through a couple of its overwintering fears.... Ok I'm reading way too far into this.
heeling.. is something the british perfected.. with plants like hosta.. to crush the crown of the plant with your heel .. to stimulate release of dormant buds.. to make a larger plant ...
heeling in .. is temporarily planting stock .... to hold them over for a season ...
actually i think they are spelled the same ... but google has failed me.. and with the caffeine rush.. i am not caring any more right now.. lol
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think of it this way ..
they are a fall flowering plant.. so they trigger bloom as the days get shorter ... and right now.. the days are nearly as short as they will be ....
so rhiz is suggesting that they will not trigger again.. until the sun starts rising on the horizon ....
probably some scientific term for such.. photo-something-or-another ... lol ...
i cant think of anything outdoors.. in late november.. in the northern hemisphere .. that is going to rebloom this time of year .... [leaving out the tropical areas, or course.. and the sub tropic deep south]
ken
thanks everyone
I really love yuccas in pots, however, they would probably not overwinter here unless they were in the ground.
I like the idea of pairing them with ornamental grasses, but need to keep lots of space to stop the grasses from smothering the yucca
gardenworld images was a fun new site to try out
I like your idea of bronze fennel for a complete contrast in texture and color
For the immediate vicinity, I think I'm going with Ken's idea of pairing the yucca with sedum - I could have a nice carpet of low growing sedum that would make the space for the yucca to rise up. Too many of my plants would crowd the yucca.
The ground isn't frozen yet, but it's probably too late for transplanting now. Just idea gathering . . .
I guess I don't really have a good picture but if you look carefully you can see the yucca in the back. I love the plant but it is definately an accent and you need to work around it.
So I made everything around it an accent too! Bright reds, oranges and lots of other variegated plants. Maybe the green of the arborvitae calms it down a bit. Maybe. My wife didn't like this bed a all btw.....
Most of the plantings are annuals so I don't know if this is helpful, and I don't know if I'd like to look at this combo every year in a perennial version, but a brave gardener might want to embrace the bold and try the yucca with some goldsturm rudbeckia and maybe a tiger eyes sumac. Then add a color accent of red or purple... a phlox? but something airier might be nicer.
Thanks, that's a relief. Not sure why I didn't notice them last year. Whaas, I think it's a soulangeana. Babs, you're right, the buds do have a lovely velvety sheen to them!
Ken, it's pure luck (procrastination) that almost the entire shrub didn't get a big haircut in September. Whew, now I know!
Thanks all!
Pam
shrubs NEVER get hair cuts...
when you seem inspired... google [or come back here] ... REJUVENATION PRUNING OF FLOWERING SHRUBS .... i made it easy.. check the link.. read one or two .. so the seed of proper pruning.. will be planted you your gray matter ...
NEVER.. EVER... a hair cut at height ... selective pruning.. maybe ... but not a hair cut ...
ken
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Where abouts in a west coast zone 8 are you located? Phormiums are not uncommon plants pretty much anywhere along the west coast and I'd have a hard time imagining too many of the local larger retail nurseries not carrying a good selection......you can even find them at my local HD!! One caveat, however :-) I'd suggest that rather than looking for very specific cultivars - which may not be all that readily available - take advantage of whatever cultivars offered that fit your requirements. Phormiums are really only borderline hardy in zone 8 and if you live in the PNW zone 8 with our routinely wet winters coupled with a good arctic blast or two, it is unusual to find phormiums surviving more than a couple of seasons. In fact, a good many PNW nurseries now treat them as more or less seasonal plants. It would be a shame to invest too much $$ into a lot of different and hard to find phormiums to not have them survive for very long.
FWIW, I have never seen phormiums offered bare root. Not a common sales method for an evergreen plant :-)
Not all nuts eaten by animals are edible for people. Acorns are actually considered toxic for horses. Some species of acorn contain such big amounts of tannins, that they are impossible to eat raw, because they are too bitter. Jays cache a lot of acorns for the winter ,but they often forget where they hid them, thus spreading the oaks everywhere.
Here is a photo of a trial of these seeds. It could just be their conditions; however, this is more like "real world" conditions than potted plants. I hope they are worth the wait!
Here is a link that might be useful: Trial Photos
All of the trials I saw were in the ground. I would say 30-40% are standard purpurea purple shades. The rest range from primrose to deep orange to nearly red. They are working to segregate the colors, will probably take a few years. Per Kieft, they did decide to delay NA introduction because they didn't have enough seed harvested to meet the demand of both the European and NA markets.
If I'm feeling ambitious and the weather is nice, and I'm out there anyhow because I have to plant late-season bargains I bought, I'll cut down things that look ratty or otherwise I'm sick of seeing, like bloomed-out monarda. I figure fall cleanup may be the only time some of my plants enjoy the good air circulation they crave. I do try to leave seedhead snacks for the birds, but some things are so ugly, I can't stand to leave them be (assuming adequate ambition, nice weather and must-plant bargains). Blackened echinacea, eupatoriums and the like tend to get whacked. But no way would I bother cleaning up things like melted hosta. And then there are things like hibiscus, which I know I'll forget about their placement if I don't leave the tops, and things I don't think want to be cut back. I, too, am okay with the spring slime.
I like to cut back now for most perennials. I have way too much to do in spring, and it does make it so much easier to winter mulch around them if trimmed back. That being said, there are some that I leave till spring. Ones that benefit from their own leaves as mulch such as my heucheras, coreopsis, and agastaches. Most are now cut back already. I also don't cut all the way to the ground. I cut back to about 6 inches from the ground.
Only one day off this week, and tried to make the most of it. I re-erected my pop up greenhouse after the windstorm of last weekend laid it low. It was dry and warmish today so I had to get while the gettin was good. It can be tricky in fall, the daytime temps can get pretty warm which is not the best scenario for a greenhouse. I moved quite a few things in there but left the fuchsias out. They will go in when the next frost is expected. Looks like we will stay in the 40's overnight for the next several days.
Such an appropriate tydall Norma ! I find my self hunkering down in Nov, especially after the time change.
Beautiful quilt 'bug. Wish I had the patience. And the snow !
All for me tonight, work tomorrow.
Kathy in Napa
mosswitch
Oh, that sounds sooo neat. Maybe you can find a small cauldron, skull or fake bloody hand at an after Halloween sale somewhere to spook things up a bit more.
I have a half buried plastic hand in my chicken theme garden for "a bird in the hand...". It's in my webshots album.
I have lots of things to put in the garden on Halloween-- skulls, skeletons, bats, all that sort of stuff. I've collected it for years, lol!
Maybe not a "theme" garden exactly, but next garden club tour at my garden I'm going to borrow all my grandson's big (12" tall) dinosaurs and scatter them among the hosta "jungle (Jurassic Park, T-Rex, etc)! Should be fun!
The northeast got hit with quite a nasty snowstorm on halloween weekend. Someone really ticked of Mother Nature I think. We got 19" and quite a bit of damage in the garden. Lost power for 4 days but we all did OK. There were so many people w/o power for a week. It was bad because all the leaves were still on the trees and it was a heavy wet snow. Blech! Good news is, the following week it warmed up nicely so all the snow melted which was great for the garden.
I don't have any photos of Veronica 'Georgia Blue' in bloom, but here's a photo out of bloom showing its growth habit. (I'm sure that it would be easy to Google for a photo of it blooming.) It's the short, fine-textured foliage that is between and Heuchera and the Siberian iris and then runs backwards and under the lilac on the right side of the photo. The part under the lilac gets virtually no sun, and looks about the same as the part that gets 2 or three hours of sun.
From June 2010
Thanks so much for the picture nhbabs. I think I will look for this particular Veronica next spring.