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I haven't tried 'Lemon Frost', but have grown 'Aurea' which has the same chartreuse leaves. I've had good results with dividing it before planting in compost amended soil, then taking cuttings & planting those as well to fill in a bit more. Works best in our rainy season or I have to water every few days until they root.
Not as vigorous as the other lamiums, but still appreciates a haircut & then you can plant those, too!
Yes, tolerates dry soil just not when it's a cutting.

I would think it would do well in that location. I would prefer the Lamium to Pachy any day. :-)
Here is a link that might be useful: Lamium maculatum �Pink Pewter�

I've concluded that translating a few hours of sun into part shade or not depends entirely on what time of day the sun is hitting. The area you describe gets slammed with sun in the hottest hours of the day, which probably means you'd want plants that like more sun than shade plants. I can't tell where you are, so I don't know how hot it gets nor is it clear how much regular water you'd be getting during the hot months. Those factors matter, of course, as plants that prefer some shade generally fare worse if it's hotter and dryer. If your summers are mild and not especially dry, then even baptisia might be okay in that spot. Soil content and moisture retention matter too.
It does seem like there would be a large number of plants that would be potentially happy there. I'd click the "mostly sunny" box of an online search, then look at other factors.
Just my 2 cents. =)

I am thinking that with that limited hours, something like coreopsis is out, but something that go from sun to part shade would work. So stick with something like Rudbeckia hirta, but not goats beard. The problem is that in this area, it can get droughty or rainy.
Paul


geum - bright red one (name escapes me, Lady Bradshaw or the other one?)Love geums but many have fleeting blooms but this common chiloense flowered all summer with a luminous red.
Salvia greggii - another red and a lilac, both from cuttings so NOID. Fabulous with grasses such as Stipa tenuissima and various sedges.Propagated zillions for friends too.
Tulipa sprengeri(a long, long wait from seed and much delving in pots for the minuscule deep bulbs - but so fabulous)
Dahlia -Bishop of Aukland (I think, a clear orange single which has gleamed with mimulus auriantica and red hemerocallis)
Callirhoe involucrata - never stops.

I had seen Red Jewel Helenium in a catalog yesterday and thought they were a great shade of red, but it was a seller that touches up photos, so wasn't sure how real it was. Good to hear it's a neat one.
Eric, I had been looking at dwarf crape myrtles for containers, but am waiting as I don't think they love a cold winter, especially just planted in fall.
woodyoak, I especially like the Veronicastrum and hibiscus as well
as forget-me-not and Daphne - really nice!!
Thank for the other additions garcan and connietn, I'll have to look up some of those :)



I ordered, paid for & took delivery of 'Osprey' 4+ years ago. It grew, bloomed, thrived...and every year around the middle of August the foliage keeled over, turned orange and looked dead. The first time, I thought it was dead but it came up again the following year. Fast forward to mid-August of this year: I dug the nasty, ugly pile of decayed foliage + roots up and trashed it all. I couldn't think of a place anywhere in my garden where I could transplant it, enjoy it and not have to look at the mess every year. Number of reseeds? Zero. It was pretty when it was pretty but the ugly after-bloom sealed its fate. The regular purple one grows in a different bed and appears to die back without the ugly mess so I've left it alone. Although I've found a volunteer here and there, they always come up in the same spot so I wouldn't say it's invasive or even too enthusiastic.


Very nice. I love the bright coloured plants, until I get to the grasses, and fall in love with those; then I see the coloured ones again and I love them. I do love the ones I'm seeing, I guess. :)
How much of your farm do you plant in? I love the variety of plants you have.
Yeona

That first shot is worthy of being framed! What variety of Aconitum is that? Very nice blue shade on it.
Your Leptodermis is lovely. I picked one up last year, but have yet to see a bloom. The more I see Angelica the more I like it.
Lovely pics gardenbug! I could seriously look at them all day ;-) Thanks
CMK

I've had it for years, not a problem as of yet. I have it growing on a trellis on the side of a concrete carport, several times a year I cut the long shoots off to keep it under control. The berries that fall I clean up so they won't germinate.
Annette

Brer, as above, depends on which Z7....ampelopsis brevipendunculata (porcelain berry vine) has shown aggressive or invasive tendencies in at least Connecticut, Delaware, Massachusetts, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Virginia, Washington DC, West Virginia, Wisconsin.
In my cool summer area, it's serving as a summer screen between my back door and my neighbors deck. One year only out of many, I found some seedlings at its base which I pulled. Every other year, we've had frost before the berries could fully ripen, unfortunately that often means before they have fully colored too.
So is it invasive - maybe. Is it poisonous - No.

I agree with purpleinopp as to what they are. We would have to know what zone you are in to know if they are perennial for you. Some sources list the mexican heather as hardy to zone 9-10 other sources say it may be hardy to zones 7 and 8. Pentas zone 10,11. If not hardy in your zone you may be able to dig them and grow them indoors as houseplants.

I cut my Mexican Heather down to a few inches before the first frost, leaving some leaves around the base. Works great, comes back every year. Pentas are annuals in my climate, they won't go through the winter outside. Yours are such a nice color, I hope that you can find a place to put them.
Someone in the butterfly forum buys pentas at Walmart early every spring, Penta lanceolata, the tall old-fashion pentas that she says the butterflies love in dark pink shades. Maybe purple, too, as they like purple lantana. Hummingbirds reportedly love the tall red pentas.
Do you know how to put your zone and your city or state on your profile? Makes it easier to get help!


Oh, dear, Lizzie, please send me an email through my GW page before buying any more of these or any other common (or even some less common) plants. I can certainly provide you with more if you are anywhere near me in NH.
Also, you should check out the New England forum where there is a plant swap near Manchester each spring and fall. New gardeners aren't obligated to bring plants.

The KO roses are young, still only 2 feet tall. Although I don't usually see dieback on other roses I have in backyard. That being said, perhaps I should move the KO roses to the front and the Helenium to the back? It looks like it only flowers on the top anyway right?
Do you pinch for height control and still get 3ft tall?

I don't pinch my Mardi Gras, it naturally gets three feet tall or a bit more. Yes, it is only the top most part that blooms.
Hummm...it is really hard to say. Most roses over here have a ton of dieback, so many never reach their full potential. I looked online and double knockouts are said to get 3-4 feet around. That is cutting it close since that is about the same height as the Helenium. Since you don't get a lot of winter dieback you might expect the rose to get four feet, but again I am not one hundred percent sure.
Sorry I couldn't give you any pat answer ;-(
CMK


I have a very large patch of Algerian Ivy planted as a ground cover on a slope to prevent erosion. I have three shrubs that do well in it two dogwoods and one Callistemon. I have to keep the ivy clear for about four feet from the shrubs. A yearly job. Al
I do not know what kind of Ivy I have either it was in the bed when I brought the house. What I have in this semi-sun bed is......
Phlox paniculata Becky Towe (Tall Varigaited leaf)
Candy Lilies
Daylily
Sedum Autumn Joy
Knockout Rose Bush
Hydrangea with a Clematis growing through it.
The area is damp area because it is near a down spout. I think we need to remember a zone 5 sun is different than a zone 6 or higher sun. The Hydrangea works since it is in the shady part of the garden.