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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

I've been to Franklin Park Conservatory in Columbus when it was raining. Although I was inside, the mostly glass building seemed totally different without the harsh sun spots and dark shadows.

If you consider mother nature's handiwork a garden... Once while hiking in Old Man's Cave outside Logan, OH, it started to rain. We were sheltering under a leaning rock and the sound of the rain was shockingly loud, which I think was magnified by the echo effect in the canyon. Unforgettable and very cool how efficiently the water disappeared after the rain stopped.

Remy, loved the pics from Buffalo garden walk! It wouldn't let me, but I would have "liked" a bunch of those! I even saved a copy of #23 to reference later.

    Bookmark     August 8, 2011 at 3:25PM
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buyorsell888(Zone 8 Portland OR)

I live in Oregon, have toured many gardens in the rain....at Butchart Gardens in Victoria BC they hand out clear plastic umbrellas. DH wanted to go back to the hotel but I refused. :) Can't be in Victoria and not go to Butchart Gardens...

    Bookmark     August 8, 2011 at 6:54PM
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prairie_love(z3/4 ND)

That Purple Lance is beautiful!

AS for whites, I saw there is a Visions in White, I'm considering trying it simply because my Visions do so well.

I would be nervous about "Glut" because the "Fanal" I lost was also an Astilbe x arendsii ... but you think it is more varietal specific and not species specific?

    Bookmark     August 8, 2011 at 1:07PM
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aachenelf z5 Mpls

I'm not sure about Glut and the varietal vs. species specific debate. All I can say is I have other arendsii hybrids and none of them do as well as Glut. Glut also keeps it's color a long time.

I have to check out those Visions. I need a good white.

Kevin

    Bookmark     August 8, 2011 at 1:26PM
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wieslaw59

Hi anonymous, this type of statements belongs to Youtube rather, I think. Personally, if the information is right and useful, I do not care whether it comes with the caps or not. It would be MUCH WORSE if it was with CAPS AND WRONG!!!

    Bookmark     August 8, 2011 at 6:10AM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

ken should feel honored - he's the subject of the one and only GW post by our anonymous friend.

    Bookmark     August 8, 2011 at 10:20AM
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gardenbug(Canada zone 5)

Michelle, the first reminds me of Blue Belle, the second of Polish Spirit. Those are just guesses, so best to check it out at the site below.

Today was busy-busy. Two friends came by at different times which is always fun, but I feel rushed now to accomplish things before we travel. DH managed to burn the things in the fire pit, which is great. I mowed some more.

I have piles more to accomplish, so away I go!
'bug

Here is a link that might be useful: COTW

    Bookmark     August 7, 2011 at 8:39PM
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dodgerdudette

Lots of garden chores this weekend-what a mess it was out there ! Feeling much better now. I filled both 55gal yard waste toters and a 32gal trash can too. Notes were made on some serious renovations for fall, involving tree removal. I have a Birch that is on the way out, riddles with exit holes, and a Japanese Maple that is beneath a neighbors tree -double shade , no bueno. My JM is just the basic variety, so not a tragedy.

Chelone, wouldn't I love to raise a glass with you ! This is a weekend visit stuck on the end of a business trip, and as Deanne said my base of operations is the Fortnum B&B. We are going to Tower Hill at some point-how about it ? Idyllunion 8.5 !

Deanne, your Extreme Gardener segment was priceless-I kept thinking that you made 350 containers seem almost normal since you were so calm cool and collected. I'm going to try to post the link below for out non-fb friends. The comments there about �hearing your voice� made me remember my first IU and what it was like to hear voices of friends whose words I had only read.

Time for dinner

Kathy in Napa

Here is a link that might be useful: Our fave extreme gardener

    Bookmark     August 7, 2011 at 10:07PM
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wieslaw59

A.Novi-angliae is a clumper and A.novi-belgii is a runner. Novi-angliae does not open flowers in bad weather (with an exception of 2 or 3 varieties). Novi-belgii gets mildew just because you look at it, novi-angliae is resistant to mildew(but not immune)

    Bookmark     August 7, 2011 at 8:55PM
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MollyDog(6 PA)

Just what I was looking for! Thanks.

    Bookmark     August 7, 2011 at 9:37PM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

There's good and bad about Joe-pye weed. I started with one (non-hybrid) plant about 9 years ago and now there are at least 50 scattered around the garden (promiscuous reseeding). One good thing is that they add flashes of yellow to the garden even after going to seed (goldfinches love the seed and I'm seeing them frequently perched on Joe-pye seedheads, enjoying a snack).

Here is a link that might be useful: Goldfinch chowing down

    Bookmark     August 7, 2011 at 11:52AM
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miclino(5)

I have been enviously eyeing the pics of echinacea hot summer so was pleasantly surprised to see it in my local nursery. However it looked nothing like the pics posted here. Was just various shades of pink. Whereas the catalog pics look like those posted by enabled. I wonder If there are regional differences to flowering? Anyway glad I didn't mail order it.

    Bookmark     August 7, 2011 at 4:42PM
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coolplantsguy(z6 Ontario)

They were only distributing 100 seeds to the industry this spring to trial.

    Bookmark     August 7, 2011 at 9:29AM
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echinaceamaniac(7)

I can't wait to see your photos. I'll be ordering seeds this fall.

    Bookmark     August 7, 2011 at 11:32AM
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wieslaw59

There are several different types of Digitalis, and flowers on different Campanulas can also look differently. Besides, flowers on Digitalis resemble the flowers of some Campanulas a lot. I think you should specify your question a little more precisely.

    Bookmark     August 6, 2011 at 6:53AM
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

You can show a picture on "name that plant forum" and you should get an answer today.

    Bookmark     August 7, 2011 at 9:50AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

There are places in every garden where it is impossible to spray weeds. When I was growing up hoeing was the job assigned to the kids, both because it needed to be done and to give them something to do. I still remember how and have a long handled Japanese weeder that makes the job a lot easier. Al

    Bookmark     August 5, 2011 at 9:35PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

as to which to compost .. well ... the ones that die ... i dont understand why you would kill something that is still alive ... to save it from drought....

ken

    Bookmark     August 5, 2011 at 8:42AM
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dicot

Mulching with non-decomposing organic matter seems better than pruning to me, at least that's how SoCal often handles our 6-7 months with no rain. You don't want a flush of nitrogen to stimulate new growth during a drought, as Rhizo noted above. So this is one of the rare situations where a few inches of bark or pine needles or clean straw mulch would be better than great, N-rich compost or soils.

When our drought-resistant natives have finished blooming in summer, many of us in SoCal prune some then, but not more than 25-35% or so. Sorry, I don't know your conditions & plants well enough to be of much help

    Bookmark     August 5, 2011 at 4:18PM
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summerstar(Z7VA)

What hostaholic2 and wieslaw59 write here is true. I checked my Bluestone catalog but their description of this new variety is written exactly as follows:

Rudbeckia fulgida var. Fulgida

There is no descriptive name for this plant as there are for most other plants. Gloriosa Daisies (also a Rudbeckia) have names such as Cappuccino, Cherokee Sunset, Indian Summer, etc., but not the Rudbeckia I'm interested in.

I put a call into their help desk this morning and left a message asking for clarification as to the exact name of this flower. I'll post back when I hear from them.

Meanwhile thanks for the reply Vivian 2010. I'm glad the foliage is smaller as it will expire less water here in Zone 7. Too bad about the flower size though. Maybe they'll work to increase it.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2011 at 11:06AM
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coolplantsguy(z6 Ontario)

There are several "natural" varieties of R. fulgida:

var. deamii
var. fulgida
var. speciosa
var. sullivantii

As mentioned, the popular cultivar 'Goldsturm' is a selection of R. fulgida var. sullivantii.

As advertised in the OP, R. fulgida var. fulgida is typically later and/or longer-flowering than the more common 'Goldsturm'.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2011 at 11:20AM
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marya13(6A)

Is the damage new? If not, maybe it's winter moth larvae. One of my heuchera was decimated before I noticed the caterpillars. After that I started checking all the heuchera and hand-picking. But this was back in late May/early June.

    Bookmark     July 27, 2011 at 10:55PM
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ornata(London UK (8/9?))

I get lots of slugs and snails in my garden but they've never so much as taken a nibble out of any of my heucheras.

    Bookmark     August 5, 2011 at 10:34AM
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tiffy_z5_6_can(5/6)

What about perennial geraniums such as those in the Purple Pratense family? There's Purple Heron and Hocus Pocus which both have the dark leaves with great character.

    Bookmark     June 23, 2007 at 8:20AM
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deerbarb_gmail_com

Ninebark....though they can grow pretty big

    Bookmark     August 4, 2011 at 2:12PM
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gottagarden(z5 western NY)

the magic fountains mix are not as tall, but very sturdy and rebloom in the fall. Mine don't need staking, as long as they are kept out of the prime windy area. come in blue, purple, and pink. love em!

    Bookmark     August 4, 2011 at 7:34AM
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wieslaw59

9 out of 10 of my Magic Fountains died after 2 years. The rest died at the age of 3. So no more Magic Fountains for me.It clearly shows that they were developed out of Pacific Giants.

    Bookmark     August 4, 2011 at 8:05AM
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oliveoyl3

Japanese blood grass, Imperata cylindrica 'Rubra'-- rich soil, mulch, crowding from other perennials, & winter wet did it in. After reading about warnings that it's invasive, I planted them right next to tall sedums ('Autumn Joy') to corral it, but maybe that wasn't a good idea.

    Bookmark     August 3, 2011 at 2:10PM
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gottagarden(z5 western NY)

japanese blood grass is a slow grower for me in zone 5, not spreading much at all, and I've had it for many years.

    Bookmark     August 4, 2011 at 7:38AM
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