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It's like many which combine genes from once flowering and repeaters. In the right climate, the right conditions, with the suitable maturity, it CAN rebloom. It can't be guaranteed to rebloom everywhere and every year. I grew Silver Moon, a once flowering LCL in Newhall, CA for 18 years. After it was six or so years old and attained "mountain size", it regularly flowered every spring and continued scattering flowers until late fall, but it isn't a "repeat flowering" type. Pink Clouds CAN do similarly. If your "spring" is long and mild enough so roses like Banksiae will continue flowering for weeks to months, you can probably expect the same from PC. Where that once flowering period is cut short by the sudden, extreme season change as if someone flipped a light switch, it will probably do what the others do and stop when the heat hits.



SoFL, I adore Veteran's Honor, I planted 2 of them in my mother's garden but alas it gets black spot and completely defoliates. I never sprayed it though, I wonder if spraying would make a big difference? It has with some of my other plants but not all. I just saw a VH in my nursery in a gallon pot I was so tempted to buy it.
Patty. I definitely will check into Kardinal and Desmond, thanks so much!

It does make a huge difference if you spray. Not everyone wants to. If you are willing to spray it will be great, if not, look for a Kords red or an old garden red. Usually they are more disease resistant. But ogr's get huge and aren't always repeat bloomers so keep that in mind.
Usually spraying is needed for the more modern "better formed" blooms. Old garden reds tend to be sloppy in form but easier to care for. It's a bit of a trade off.




This year I resorted to cutting off all the blooms/buds that were thrip damaged. This is a bad year for thrips. If you do that, make sure you put the buds in a plastic bag, seal tightly and put in the garbage, do not compost.
I did resort to spraying, I used Orthene, which exhibitors recommend. It is a strong chemical, but did the job. I misted any new buds with it, avoiding any open blooms.


Everything looks beautiful Andrea. I agree about the grass. Your hubby is so sweet to suggest more roses for you. Mine loves mine but tells me enuf is enuf. He is a sweetie and helps me a bunch but he doesn't understand he still has way more grass than he needs. lol Thanks for sharing, Judy

Very healthy and beautiful roses! I really like your bouquet. The painted roses are very striking. I admire people who grow roses in the middle of the lawn. You must be dedicated to keep the lawn edges sprawling towards your roses. If I were to do that in my hot climate I would have to trim the grass edges every week.

Yes I believe this is Henry Kelsey. If you check out Help Me Find roses then click on the search/lookup tab. Then type in the name of your rose and it will come up. At the top of this page there is a photo tab it will bring up many photos of Henry Kelsey. There you will see many of the different looks that the flower can show. It can show serveral shapes depending on the wearther. Hope this is helpful.

Could have sworn I added another post before I went to the grocery store, but now it is nowhere to be seen!
Anyway, to answer Patty's question, I've had Braveheart for maybe 7-8 years, and if something happened to it, I would immediately replace it with another one. That is how much I adore that shrub.
Kate

Yay! This is what I love about this forum - it connects people with rose questions with LOCAL folks with answers - in this case very local! Do take advantage of this, allencia - local knowledge about roses is the best you can get. Folks living in other places may try to give you advice, but they really have no idea how a specific rose may act in your place.
Jackie

What you describe as brown and crinkly new growth could be normal new growth. Often the unfolding leaves are brownish, yellowish, or reddish.
If you have a yellowing cane that is not supporting vigorous new growth, ut may need to be taken out--but I would wait a couple of weeks if you are not very familiar with how roses grow.

Here is some information on leaf-cutter bees:
http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/insect/05576.html
If something is tunneling into a cane further down, I suspect it is not a leaf cutter bee, but something else.
If you don't have a camera, do you by chance have a flat-bed scanner? Or access to one? Because you can put a leaf or leaves in one and scan it for a good quality image.
Failing that, I suggest that you take leaves to a good local nursery, and ask them about them. (Not a Home Depot or Lowes. A real nursery.) Failing THAT, see if there is a local rose society.





I find it easy enough to grind up the leaves with a leaf shredder and dump it all onto a compost pile--where it gets transformed into this wonderful black crumbly stuff--a far cry from the slimy mess of leaves that seems to create disease issues with my roses. The additional steps involved are well worth the effort in my garden.
I just spread fallen leaves over the rose beds in autumn 3-4 inches deep and some more again in spring after the mulch has thinned. I haven't had any problem with canker. It's basically sheet composting cum mulching. Good weed suppression, moisture retention, and humus added to the soil faster than bark would do. It's also the most labor-efficient and cheapest solution if you have enough leaves.