22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses
I would do it sooner rather than wait. A dormant rose will not suffer from transplant as much as one with leaves on it. A tip is to have the new spot or pot ready before you dig it up. You may have to cut back the top of the rose to get it dug up easily. Once you see the size of the rootball, you can tell how much you may need to cut back. More roots, more top you can keep. Depending on how long your Julia Child has been in the ground, and what type of root stock it's on, you will probably have to cut some roots to get it out.
I had to dig up a bunch of roses last year because of construction in my yard. Some of the larger ones didn't make it. But I had to dig them up when it was warmer and I don't think I cut back enough.
Sam, good idea to try to balance the root ball to the plant’s above ground material. I like the tarp idea too. Thanks.
Buford, This weekend, looks like it will be the perfect opportunity. We’re finally going to get four days in a row of 50s and 60s weather. Sorry you lost some of your roses. I guess I’d rather cut back, even a lot, than lose the rose. Thank you.
annofpa: I kept my tree roses in about 15 gallon insulated pots. I start my regular potted roses depending on their size in black nursery pots or whatever is available lol. If they are grafted plants I put them in 7.5 gallon size then pot up from there as needed. Ideally, I try to get the roses potted on into large insulated pots to prevent the roots from getting too hot here. I have a hand truck that I use to move pots. Its the best thing I ever bought dh so I could steal it and use it for plants lol :D
~sjn
I also picked up CI in one of my body bag orgies. I also just bought a Mr. Lincoln as a replacement for one that died, it's my husband's favorite. So far all of my bagged roses are doing fine. Even the JFK one I bought that was in rough shape. I think getting them watered and potted right away is a key. I've even soaked them in the bag and left them like that for a bit.
Watering every 3 - 4 days may have washed out most of that fertilizer by now. You could do fish emulsion at half-strength once a week. Osmocote works well in pots too.
BUT: have they bloomed yet? If not, then water is sufficient enough for now (they are happily growing roots, and they need roots before blooms), fertilize after the first bloom cycle.
I alternate between stuff like fish fertilizer and compost teas and stuff like MG and MG bloom boosters etc. I have tons of brugmansia which are very heavy feeders and will eat up anything I can throw at them. I do not mix up separate batches so whatever I am feeding them, I just do the same for all the other stuff too. I have potted roses that get quite a bit of fertilizer and I have not had any problems. I use plastic pots not clay and they get watered several times between fertilizer applications. Also, make sure to never fertilize a dry pot. Always water about a half hour before you fertilize. I killed a rose many years ago by putting fertilizer on a very dry rose lol. Completely fried it!! Never forgot that lesson.
~sjn
In this photo, the Julia Child roses and the peonies (pretty well over blooming and not looking good) are planted on a fairly steep slope, looking down our front sidewalk. The peonies were planted a year before the roses, and as Julia grew bigger, the peonies got more trapped. Now they bloom beautifully, and a short while after they are done, the plants get mildewy from poor air circulation due to gigantic Julia. None of roses ever get mildew, but this example does show how the peonies should be planted in front of the roses. That's not how things worked out here. The roses do wonderfully well in this bed, though. Diane
I'd say it depends on how close together they are going to be, and whether you place the peony in front, beside, or behind the rose depends on how tall the rose gets.
Here you can see a nearly finished blooming white peony (bottom right corner of pic) next to a red Eutin floribunda--both about the same size, although the Eutin will get somewhat taller as the summer goes by. That peony and rose are about 3 feet apart. There is also a short spreading mini rose is growing in front of that peony; it is about 1.5 ft away from the peony.
If you look down at the end of that bed, appearing to lean over the driveway (it doesn't really), there is another peony, done blooming. To the left of it is the pink Pomponell rose bush. They are about 3 ft apart also, and as the summer goes by, the Pomponel will grow taller than the peony, although at peony blooming time they are roughly the same size.
Both the peonies are placed so that they get plenty of air space and therefore don't mildew, but the rose bushes next to them and growing larger as the season progresses help mask them a bit, drawing attention to the blooming rose rather than the bloomless peony. Since my peonies do not mildew, they look like nice green bushes most of the summer, although they can get a bit ratty looking in autumn--but I just start trimming them back then.
Hope that helps.
Kate
Hmmm. They have a bunch of PINATAs at Lowes in 3gal pots. The opening blooms were quite striking. Maybe I should go back and pick one up! I have a non-climbing TALISMAN and it definitely doesn't get a lot of yellow on it, let alone a bright yellow!
I'm sure RVR will replace it.
The first year you have these roses, don't cut the rose stems more then half way. Let the bush's grow and put some size under the blooms. Vino Rosso is the only one that I'm not familiar with. The Kords roses will get fairly tall but can be kept to 4 or 5 ft tall. It will probably take 2 or 3 years to get good width to them. I've heard some grumbling about the bloom size of Vino Rosso not being any bigger the a medium size florabunda bloom. It's supposed to have beautiful flower form with good stems under the bloom. It's major selling point. I know Winter Sun is a beautiful yellow with good stems and great foliage. Of the 4, I pretty sure Beverly is going to be your biggest bloom. Winter Sun should out bloom them all and Grand Amore will grow on you the more it blooms. More then anything, always stop to smell the roses and enjoy each bloom off each bush that you grow.
Just an update, they have climbing Belinda's Dream at Antique Rose Emporium in 15 or 20 gallon pots for $50. Impressive looking plants. They also had some beautiful Graham Thomas Roses in similar sized pots for same price that I might have snatched up if I didn't already have 2.
Things very slow here this year also... Not just roses but other shrubs, etc...Leaf buds swelled here that's it....
My roses are so late, too! I'm only seeing teeny buds on Cl Pompon de Paris, which is my first bloom of the season. That's right, and I expect to see more buds soon, but it's just late.