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I was 4 yrs old and my Nana had a dark red climber going up the porch of her bunglow. The roses were quite prolific and every day I would grab a handfull of petals and put them in her mail box. I would ring the door and when my sweet Nana came to see who was there I would tell her the postman had come and she had mail. Believe it or not everytime she would act surprized!!!
Later on I found out her favorite rose was "Sterling Silver"...mine too!
Many of DAs newer roses are much more bs resistant than the old "favorites." After checking around carefully with others on this forum, I say you should order two or three of the newer ones and try them out. It is possible that the newer ones might, in some cases, work fairly well for you.
Here are a couple of my newer and best (bs-resistant) DAs.
Lady of Shalott
Queen of Sweden
Munstead Wood (dark red) and behind it (to the left), Wedgewood Climber (pink/pastel).
Those DAs are quite bs-resistant in my region 6--some of the "tougher" DAs I've tried to grow in the past. Can't guarantee what they will do in your area--but one or two might be worth a try.
Good luck.
Kate
I agree it depends on the climate. Up here where I live (Canada), the Austins available here does pretty well. It won't get monstrous (like our neighbours down south) and it is quite manageable on its own. The Austins I have grown does get bs later in the season, same as my other non-Austins but they are more shrubby which I like. In general, there is a rose for most growing zones. What may do well in may area may not in yours and vice versa. That is why forums like this one exist so we can find out what does well in similar zones.
Re: Teasing Georgia. I would definitely mass plant this one if I have the space. It is very fragrant in my garden. I can smell the tea fragrance before the buds even open. Since I live in a cold zone, I don't have to worry about it being a monster.
Wisconsin Roses does custom budding on multiflora.
I don't see why not. Over half of my 100 bush garden is on fortuniana. I live in the N.E. GA. mountains, zone 7a/7b. I have never lost a rose to rootstock failure yet. Trust me, it gets cold here in the winters. I have all my grafted roses planted with the graft at ground level.
I think Mad is right. This looks like one of the grocery store type minis. They're very hard to ID because the grower doesn't supply the names to the sellers, just generic colors tags. And that's probably how the sellers order them, a gross of red, a gross of yellow, etc. They're meant as gift roses, instead of getting a dozen roses, and they're actually meant to be disposable. However, if planted in the ground they grow and bloom for years. Enjoy your rose and don't worry about it's name. Name it after your sister!
Yes, give them a couple years to settle in and mature--then assess how well they are doing.
That said, I've grown Jubilee Celebration for 7-8 years now--lovely blooms, but not the most vigorous plant, and while not a blackspot magnet, it periodically has some BS problems.
I haven't grown Boscobel, but would it I had room for it. It is supposed to be very bs resistant, so definitely give it time to settle in before you make a final judgment.
A number of gardeners have praised Golden Celebrations beauty, but I seem to remember that nearly all of them admitted she had periodic BS problems, even after she was quite mature.
That's all I can help you with on those roses, but in the future, look each one up on the David Austin site (and on helpmefind.com) to see how bs-resistant they are--but be careful with DA roses. He rarely mentions anything as negative as "disease." Instead, he will comment on how "healthy" the roses are--which means they may be fairly good on bs-resistance. If he says nothing about "health" or "disease," that probably means it is a bs magnet and you will have to spray.
Hope that helps.
Kate
I don't have a huge garden area and test 12 to 15 roses per year -- rotating them out and selling my duds on craigslist. I never pay any attention to DA's catalog or any catalog and thoroughly check out all my roses on HMF. DA's catalog and others soul objective is to get you to buy their roses, whether they are good or not. That's why I get on here to ask people who have actually got experience with the particular roses I'm asking about. All areas of the country are different and I factor that in . The catalog photos and descriptions are usually photoshopped and have erroneous info on smell and other particulars. Good advice though. Thx cj
Don't use baking soda on plants, they don't like sodium. I use 1 tspn potassium bicarbonate and a little dishwashing soap in a spray bottle, you can buy potassium bicarbonate on Amazon. Plants like potassium and fungus doesn't like the high pH in the bicarbonate. The soap will also kill aphids and whiteflies on contact, something I've had a lot of this year.
You can also buy GreenCure on Amazon or your local garden center, it's main ingredient is potassium bicarbonate. Of course there's Bayer 3-in-1 if you like pesticides.
Today I found one bush with a number of holes in a number of leaves. On one of the two buds on the plant thus far--it had all these little holes. I saw a couple tiny greenish colored bugs crawling on the underside of some leaves. I squished a few aphids. Then I figured it was early enough to give each bush a spray of water to try & kill any of these bugs.
Years ago we had a Fountain Grass plant in our lawn. It got removed because of all of it's offspring. They make for a tough grass to mow and/or walk on. However, during the time it was there the Ladybugs loved it. You could hardly see the grass for all of the ladybugs. So, if you have a spot where the wind won't blow the seeds all over your lawn give it a try.
The greenish worm/caterpillar that you squished was most likely a Sawfly caterpillar.
I buy roses everywhere. Big box stores, online or local nurseries, I buy them where I find the ones I want. I do try to make a concerted effort to buy something from my local nurseries every season to keep them in business and encourage them to keep carrying roses other than Knock Outs. I've already had two local nurseries go over to the dark side so I'm hanging on to the ones that haven't/ Now if I could just convince one of them to start carrying some minis!
Enchantedrosez - great looking roses, and I'll bet they'll be lovely once they start blooming! Since you also mentioned Easy Elegance roses, I'd love to see a thread from you in a year or so to see how they survive the winter for you and bloom in your BS-heavy zone. That's been an unknown quantity for a while here on GW, as most of us posting about Easy Elegance roses have been from other regions of the country. I love this series of roses, and I'll be interested to see if they're equally good for you in your region.
Cynthia
Hi Cynthia, I can't wait for the blooms to start. Right now the peonies are blooming a bit. i always lose most of the buds to some weird issue and the irises are blooming for the very first time. Yay!! I have Easy elegance Centennial Rose that I bought last spring. It overwintered in a pot and is covered with buds and suffered very little dieback. The roses are gorgeous and I didn't have any blackspot that I can remember. I don't spray for disease at all. The only thing missing is scent but they are own root from the grower and guaranteed for 2 years. Centennial Rose was purchased at a nursery so it's a good size rose. I bought some bands form Northland this year. They were the only nursery that had a good selection since Chamblee's is no longer propagating them. I have Music Box, Sweet Fragrance, Champagne Wishes and High Voltage. They seem vigorous so far and two have flowered at least once. Music Box was so-so, hopefully it will improve with age, but she is already putting out new buds. Champagne Wishes was really pretty, very tea rose like but so far Centennial is my favorite.
Here is Centennial Rose, still in her pot. She hasn't even been fertilized this year.
Sharon
Sharon - just to encourage you to consider a membership in helpmefind, I have found it immensely helpful even when I stop into a store to see what I can buy. Being able to look up a rose I'm unfamiliar with helps me decide if it's going to be a good rose to try or more trouble than it's worth. It's a great resource for all of us however much we may be casual or serious grower of roses.
Seil - thanks for the reminder of the air-layering tool. I've meant to order one for a while and your reminder is good enough to do so this year.
Cynthia
I bought two of the expandable hoses spring before last, used them all that summer and all of last year. I was careful not to leave them in the sun and not to drag them across anything sharp. One started leaking yesterday and the other seems to be fine. I am with Buford, if I have to replace them both every year it is okay but these have lasted two years. I can't pull heavy hose and these are the answer.
I also have grown Brother Cadfael for years, Love him. Stingy with blooms after the first blush. Gets HUGE! Too big for a pot. Princess Alexandra of Kent is one of my favorites. She also gets HUGE. Long, long canes. Much thornier than Pretty Jessica. Evelyn has a scent to die for, (as does the Brother) but she is also HUGE and thorny.
My Ebb Tides (three) do the same thing, no matter their location in my garden The one in part shade is smaller, but the blooms fry just the same as the two in more sun. Frustratingly, ET doesn't do well in vases for me, and I love the way it looks and smells in the house. I have one Twilight Zone which keeps its color better in the heat, but doesn't do well in bouquets, and it just doesn't smell as good as ET, either. Diane
Thank you Karen. I am very tough with my roses. I only buy the healthiest plants from good rose nurseries. Anything that do not perform or provide enough olfactory satisfaction will get SP'd and replaced with better specimens.
Ebb Tide changes colour depending on sun and heat. In summer it ranges from light to bright pink to light purple. The fragrance is consistently good though. In my Summer it is only fragrant in the morning. In Winter it is fragrant from mid morning till late afternoon.