22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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Donna R zone 6a

So interesting, thank you very much for sharing.

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view1ny NY 6-7

OMG, I loved this video! What's the name of last year's rose? The color is absolutely beautiful.

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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Yes, give them a couple years to settle in and mature--then assess how well they are doing.

That said, I've grown Jubilee Celebration for 7-8 years now--lovely blooms, but not the most vigorous plant, and while not a blackspot magnet, it periodically has some BS problems.

I haven't grown Boscobel, but would it I had room for it. It is supposed to be very bs resistant, so definitely give it time to settle in before you make a final judgment.

A number of gardeners have praised Golden Celebrations beauty, but I seem to remember that nearly all of them admitted she had periodic BS problems, even after she was quite mature.

That's all I can help you with on those roses, but in the future, look each one up on the David Austin site (and on helpmefind.com) to see how bs-resistant they are--but be careful with DA roses. He rarely mentions anything as negative as "disease." Instead, he will comment on how "healthy" the roses are--which means they may be fairly good on bs-resistance. If he says nothing about "health" or "disease," that probably means it is a bs magnet and you will have to spray.

Hope that helps.

Kate

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cjrosaphile(z8 Pacific NW)

I don't have a huge garden area and test 12 to 15 roses per year -- rotating them out and selling my duds on craigslist. I never pay any attention to DA's catalog or any catalog and thoroughly check out all my roses on HMF. DA's catalog and others soul objective is to get you to buy their roses, whether they are good or not. That's why I get on here to ask people who have actually got experience with the particular roses I'm asking about. All areas of the country are different and I factor that in . The catalog photos and descriptions are usually photoshopped and have erroneous info on smell and other particulars. Good advice though. Thx cj

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cleangeek(Zone 9)

Don't use baking soda on plants, they don't like sodium. I use 1 tspn potassium bicarbonate and a little dishwashing soap in a spray bottle, you can buy potassium bicarbonate on Amazon. Plants like potassium and fungus doesn't like the high pH in the bicarbonate. The soap will also kill aphids and whiteflies on contact, something I've had a lot of this year.

You can also buy GreenCure on Amazon or your local garden center, it's main ingredient is potassium bicarbonate. Of course there's Bayer 3-in-1 if you like pesticides.

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I would not use vinegar either for on leaves... I once killed weeds in the cracks of our sidewalk with vinegar...

I used Greencure a bit last year for the first time it seemed to help with PM...But does not work for Blackspot...

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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

Today I found one bush with a number of holes in a number of leaves. On one of the two buds on the plant thus far--it had all these little holes. I saw a couple tiny greenish colored bugs crawling on the underside of some leaves. I squished a few aphids. Then I figured it was early enough to give each bush a spray of water to try & kill any of these bugs.

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toolbelt68(7)

Years ago we had a Fountain Grass plant in our lawn. It got removed because of all of it's offspring. They make for a tough grass to mow and/or walk on. However, during the time it was there the Ladybugs loved it. You could hardly see the grass for all of the ladybugs. So, if you have a spot where the wind won't blow the seeds all over your lawn give it a try.

The greenish worm/caterpillar that you squished was most likely a Sawfly caterpillar.

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seil zone 6b MI

I buy roses everywhere. Big box stores, online or local nurseries, I buy them where I find the ones I want. I do try to make a concerted effort to buy something from my local nurseries every season to keep them in business and encourage them to keep carrying roses other than Knock Outs. I've already had two local nurseries go over to the dark side so I'm hanging on to the ones that haven't/ Now if I could just convince one of them to start carrying some minis!

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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

I did see some minis at HD, but they were not named :(

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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Enchantedrosez - great looking roses, and I'll bet they'll be lovely once they start blooming! Since you also mentioned Easy Elegance roses, I'd love to see a thread from you in a year or so to see how they survive the winter for you and bloom in your BS-heavy zone. That's been an unknown quantity for a while here on GW, as most of us posting about Easy Elegance roses have been from other regions of the country. I love this series of roses, and I'll be interested to see if they're equally good for you in your region.

Cynthia

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enchantedrosez6a

Hi Cynthia, I can't wait for the blooms to start. Right now the peonies are blooming a bit. i always lose most of the buds to some weird issue and the irises are blooming for the very first time. Yay!! I have Easy elegance Centennial Rose that I bought last spring. It overwintered in a pot and is covered with buds and suffered very little dieback. The roses are gorgeous and I didn't have any blackspot that I can remember. I don't spray for disease at all. The only thing missing is scent but they are own root from the grower and guaranteed for 2 years. Centennial Rose was purchased at a nursery so it's a good size rose. I bought some bands form Northland this year. They were the only nursery that had a good selection since Chamblee's is no longer propagating them. I have Music Box, Sweet Fragrance, Champagne Wishes and High Voltage. They seem vigorous so far and two have flowered at least once. Music Box was so-so, hopefully it will improve with age, but she is already putting out new buds. Champagne Wishes was really pretty, very tea rose like but so far Centennial is my favorite.
Here is Centennial Rose, still in her pot. She hasn't even been fertilized this year.


Sharon

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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

Sharon - just to encourage you to consider a membership in helpmefind, I have found it immensely helpful even when I stop into a store to see what I can buy. Being able to look up a rose I'm unfamiliar with helps me decide if it's going to be a good rose to try or more trouble than it's worth. It's a great resource for all of us however much we may be casual or serious grower of roses.

Seil - thanks for the reminder of the air-layering tool. I've meant to order one for a while and your reminder is good enough to do so this year.

Cynthia

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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

BTW, in case anyone else is tempted, Lee Valley has free shipping over $40 through June 8. That would cover a set of 5 layering pots plus something else tempting from their catalog... Just sayin'!
Cynthia

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Beth zone 8a Dallas, TX

I bought two of the expandable hoses spring before last, used them all that summer and all of last year. I was careful not to leave them in the sun and not to drag them across anything sharp. One started leaking yesterday and the other seems to be fine. I am with Buford, if I have to replace them both every year it is okay but these have lasted two years. I can't pull heavy hose and these are the answer.

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countrygirl_sc, Upstate SC(7a)

I hook mine to the back of my tractor and pull it across the yard. I have a pretty big yard.

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mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9

I also have grown Brother Cadfael for years, Love him. Stingy with blooms after the first blush. Gets HUGE! Too big for a pot. Princess Alexandra of Kent is one of my favorites. She also gets HUGE. Long, long canes. Much thornier than Pretty Jessica. Evelyn has a scent to die for, (as does the Brother) but she is also HUGE and thorny.

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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

I totally agree with you, mustb. Diane

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bouquet_kansas(z6Ks)

I am sorry about your losing the rose Love and Peace....I have grown mine for over

five years and love it!....I am in zone 6b-kansas. There was quite abit of die-back

this last winter on it( as with many of my other roses), but has come back budding and

blooming great.....

Carol

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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

I've grown Love & Peace since it was introduced. It came back fine for me. You might consider trying it again, burying the graft union a little lower, or on a different rootstock (or own root, if available). Palatine had Dream Come True on R. multiflora rootstock this season.

HelpMeFind defaults all roses to zone 7a, and that's how it stays until someone requests an update.

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newroses

Beautiful medium sized shrub rose from Kordes. Exceptional disease resistance - constant bloom -no fragrance- hardy in zone 4 trials.

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missmary(6b/7a MD)

I bought this rose on impulse at the end of last year's growing season - not even sure where, (but searching here leads me to think I got it at Lowe's). I'm (currently) going for a theme of red roses randomly placed around in pockets of my front-of-house landscaping, and I had a spot where I thought it might work. I don't want any reds that aren't completely RED-red. Crimson red, blood red, etc. No lipsticky, fading, changing red.

The year is still young - and so is this rose - but I am so happy with it! I'm thinking of trying to find it again for a couple of spots in my back yard. Easy to care for, growing into a nice bush with green leafy fullness, buds popping out all over - and it so holds on to it's crimson red color! We are in a high blackspot area - which it's not really peak season here (central Maryland) - and no sign of that yet.

My rose is the Forever and Ever MILANO, not the Kardinal. Oops.
Now you know about Milano!

And oh - btw, mine is in a partial shade area.

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