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Hi everyone! New to this forum but everyone seems so knowledgeable. Feel free to chime in on this one. Welltraveled-I am in zone 5 mid mich also and am trying to grow the eden rose for the first time. It's my first rose so all of this is new to me. Do you do anything to help it winter? Cover or mulch over? Haven't planted it yet, debating on a spot. Does it spread out much and how much climbing do you get?
There is a Pink Eden Climber just being introduced, and a thread recently discussed it with the man who discovered Pink Eden (patent name is Margaret Mae, or something similar; named for his mother). I don't think he hybridized this rose, so it may have been a sport. It's on HMF with a few recent photos. It's being sold by Meilland, and they are starting European sales and on to Japan, I guess. Diane
Easy elegance Roses are great. I have Centennial which is a bit hard to find. All of their roses are own root and have a two year guarantee. The Centennial Rose went through this brutal New England winter with literally no damage, even under five feet of heavy snow and cold temps and over wintered in a pot sunk in the ground. It has a ton of buds already and the flowers are gorgeous. The only drawback is lack of scent. I bought several different bands from Northland Rosarium who seemed to have the best variety. Macy's Pride is another which gets rave reviews as do others in the line bred by Pim Limg. I purchased Music Box, Sweet Fragrance, Champagne Wishes and others from NR, they were adequate size for bands and very healthy. These are breeder photos of Sweet Fragrance and Centennial Rose.
Sharon
Thanks Christopher, you are probably right. I looked at pictures of CdC rose on HMF, the rose bushes and flowers look the same. It is very fragrant. I got it at Menards 4 yrs ago when I was still new to rose gardening and identified roses by color only. Now I graduated and know roses by names.
Madri.
As Ann says, it's possible to have an outbreak of downy mildew at a garden center in cool weather, when plants are crowded and sprinkled too much. But you say you don't see any dark spots or disease symptoms. If the plant started shedding within a week of planting, maybe it is just transplant shock.
Also, for no apparent reason, RU can develop a scattering of leaves mottled yellow and green and then dropping.
It does looks like it. I start dropping and leaves turn yellow but otherwise the canes looks healthy. The lady at the nursery noticed it too and didn't know why since this is the only variety that did that. Now that you mentioned it, it did start dropping a few leaves when I left it in the pot for 2 weeks and continued when I planted it. I will wait and see what happened. Thanks for the info.
Thanks, Nick! We are warmer than you because of the big lakes. I'm on the water and that effects my weather a lot. We've had some day in the 80s already and this week will be steady in the 70s. Not saying we don't get our ups and downs, we do, but I think we're still a tad warmer than WI.
Apparently gardenweb was first registered on "Creation Date: 28-oct-1995"
http://www.whois.com/whois/gardenweb.com
The oldest message on the first web page saved is dated Jan 4, 1996 (at the bottom you have to do many "next 30 posts to reach the one below).
http://web.archive.org/web/19961205054355/http://gardenweb.com/forums/roses/nph-ind.cgi?n=781
With some deeper pruning when dead heading they should be fine. The pots will need to be BIG if you want to keep them in them for a long time. Use large pots with lots of drainage holes, no trays under them please, and a good quality potting soil and they should be fine.
Yea sorry, hybridized does sound much better lol. I just think that it's fascinating we've bred different roses to have traits of our liking. Some cultivars that we'd never find in the wild, and that would have a hard time existing in the wild on their own too. That thought and effort were put into the cultivar's creation to have specific characteristics, that's what I find most luring about them.
Budded, Chris, assume on Dr. Huey as they were bought potted already in growth. Have you noted different growth & bloom patterns on grafted versus own root versions? Are you receiving reports of two flushes from various areas of the country? Are both flushes equal or is the rebloom less full? Time frame? Any further info to share?
Also have a pair of Golden Gates potted & grafted (again assume Huey), bought in bud & bloom a year ago & grown along in larger pots till now. They're 9'+ at this point, finished with their first flush & budding up for another, and originally intended for this same arch, which is 5' wide by 2' deep & 10' high. They bloomed several times last year. Perhaps they are better candidates for rebloom on this arch? Different growth & bloom proclivities on these budded and own root? Willing to use either pair of roses elsewhere & plant own root instead, as it's my usual preference.
Resistance to blackspot is crucial in this established no spray garden. Kordes' roses have done well in all the gardens I've tended over the years & consequently I've a soft spot for their health & beauty. Happy you're bringing more to The States on an ongoing basis & keeping a sharp eye out for new releases. Are you trialing Sweet Laguna yet?
Thanks for your reply & for letting me pick your brain!
I've been on Garden Web for 15 years (dang, I'm old!) and during that time several schisms have occurred. If a group of rosarians chooses to take their secateurs and go elsewhere, then via con dios. I'm thankful that many of my rosy friends have chosen to stay and weather the occasional storms.
I have to say that thanks to this forum, I am much less reliant on chemicals than when I first started. I do almost all organic fertilizing, don't use insecticides (but I might have to because of a horrible thrip infestation). I do use fungicide. I have decided that judicious use of a chemical is not an awful thing if it is used correctly and of limited use. We have also switched our lawn care and pest control to organic methods.
Also, for me personally, I have completely switched my diet to a whole food diet. I have eliminated almost all processed foods from my diet. I don't eat grains of any type, although I just found some non-GMO popcorn that is fantastic. If we are thinking out our health and the health of the environment, think about the things you eat and how they are developed and grown. The use of herbicides on GMO crops is disturbing. I use herbicides, again, judiciously, but I sure as hell don't want to have it on my food. Now they have 2,4-D resistant crops. Lord help us.
So strange. I don't even get the slightest note of any fragrance. My Eden has more, me thinks. Here's just another example of doing research on a rose and having it not turn out as expected. And I understand differences of opinion, but I did see it at the Portland Rose Garden and it didn't have any fragrance there either. This was after I had purchased it and before it bloomed. I do like how it looks and so will give it a season or two, all the while trying to find another lavender worth trying. . .
Thanks Beth, I had Pink Gruss but had to shovel prune. Couldn't keep her clean when I went no spray. At one time I had a good 600 roses but I wasn't getting any younger. RRD or the shovel for disease took out most of those. Lost some due to Dr. Huey root stock which won't grow for me. This rose and Rosarie d'hay are the last 2 left from the early days.
Much appreciated guess ozmelodye, but not a flower carpet. I have the flower carpet series.
I'm nearly positive it is a polyantha. At one time I had many of them, The flower is semi double but many singles at the end of the year, No sent, shiny foliage a mix of larger leaves and small. The color is variable from this lighter pink to much darker but always has some cream in the center. The flower matches La Marne perfectly but I'm not seeing any smaller leaves mixed in with the larger leaves on help me find. She grows up but very full so that you can not see the ground underneath.