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Beth zone 8a Dallas, TX

We very seldom get a freeze before the middle of December and have less than 14 days of below freezing all winter. The roses in the beds didn't go completely dormant last year. I had blooms until mid December. Of course we had unusual weather last winter so nothing was normal. We had sleet, snow and a hard freeze the first weekend in March which is VERY late for us.

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summersrhythm_z6a

That's very warm for winter, cold is not an issue there, the heat is........ we have the cold problems here killing the roses, not the heat.......I keep all the potted rose trees in the garage now, the shed is not good enough here, too old. Here is a photo of the winter here, right after I took the photo I got lost in the woods, couldn't keep up with the group snow shoeing, decided to turn around, seeking shortcut to the parking lot with my iphone google maps.......bad idea! We have coyotes in all the forest parks. It's still beautiful to look at, but lost in the wood is not a good feeling, trust me. :-) The temp was around 10-12F......

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niladri_banerjee92

Update on the rose plant: two of the four plants started to sprout and there are around 60-70 leaves now. Looks it is slowly but steadily recovering. It sits outside and looks happy!

I cannot thank you enough Seil, Patty and Jacqueline. You have just saved my plant!

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Don't think I did that much to help but I sure am happy for you that it's coming back.

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Thanks Karen. I just saw your post on LoS and I did not even notice the foliage. My first thought was oh my goodness yours has buds. Wish I could get mine to bloom.

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KarenPA_6b

I am sorry. I wish I know what is causing your LoS not to bloom. It is strange that it bloomed well for you the first year and then just stopped blooming in subsequent years. Mine is in its second year so I don't have enough experience with it to know its growing habit.

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boncrow66

I noticed Earth Angel on Chamblees website, the pictures are gorgeous. I wonder how it would do in my hot east Texas climate? Is anyone growing this rose? I also have my eye on Cream Veranda and First Blush b

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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Hey bon crow. Ive been waiting for Earth Angel and Madame Annisette to become available on their site too. I called the other day and they said they prob won't be available til next spring. You will love Cream Veranda and First Crush. Cream Veranda always seems to have blooms on it. Judy

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Greg(z8, San Antonio)

Mike,

I have a Neptune that is going into its 4th or 5th year, and it has done better for me than any other of the lavender roses I've tried here in N.O. Gets to be about 6 or 7 feet, and blooms even in the heat. Mine gets shaded from the worst of the afternoon sun,though. Here are a few pics.

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badazznurse

Blue Moon was very disappointing for me. The plant is spindly and the blooms are poor quality color which was magenta far from the lavender I was hoping for.

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Sylvia Weiser Wendel

Hoovb, my Belinda must still be in the creeping stage -- she was a band last year, arrived around this time -- but she has put forth quite a few beautiful blooms and has several buds right now.

Maybe she's leaping early?? :)

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floridarosez9

She's wonderful here. Way better than Knockouts. I wish she came in every color.

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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

One issue with this rose, it hates rain. I had some gorgeous blooms on my PJPII (which is on Multiflora) and it rained yesterday and they now look like brown tissue paper. Next time, I will cut them and bring them inside if rain is in the forecast.

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bethnorcal9

Lovely blooms Sara-Ann. I live in the "hot zone" and for me, he's a dud. I've had him since the yr intro'd and he's barely bloomed a half dozen blooms. He's only about a foot tall. Other roses nearby are whoppers. Oh well, maybe one day he'll do something...

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sutekesh Switzerland(6a)

Agree with jkellydallas - Watercolors Home Run http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.72447.0&tab=1

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HoosierBob SW Indiana Zone 5

Thanks very much, that looks like the one!

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Brittie - La Porte, TX 9a

Terrible news. Sad to lose another vendor.

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bethnorcal9

I was afraid of that. Bummer..

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Ninkasi(6-7 Germany)

The rose garden in San Diego's Balboa Park has a swath of these. I have admired them there many times.They really are worth it, makes a great statement.

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the_bustopher z6 MO

I have one of these. I would like to have several. It is one variety that does rather well here even in the heat. It just doesn't bloom as much, and the flowers lose their striping and size. They are more of a solid red with a white reverse. When cool temperatures come around again the striping returns.

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ndadna

cleangeek, thanks for the link to the video.
florist roses do have thorns. There tend to be less thorns right underneath the flower before you get to the first set of leaves . in the video that you linked to, there were actually red thorns lower down on the stem when they were picking the roses . Admittedly they're not super thorny varieties. But they're not actually thornless .
One of the handling techniques discussed in a California grown video was to pick the longest roses first, lay them on your arm, then pick ever shorter roses to put on top. that way the flowers on shorter stems don't get punctured by the thorns of taller stems surrounding them .
Florists and rose arrangers use a gadget called a stem stripper to remove thorns:
This stem stripper is stainless steel.
It will instantly remove the leaves and thorns from fresh roses.
This tool is very commonly used in the floral industry and is a necessity for anyone working with roses.
Length is approximately 4.5 inches.
the description was for a professional one being sold by a wholesale florist supply website, but you can buy plastic and metal stem strippers from Amazon.
I have used thorn strippers; I don't think they're worth the bother. That may be because I had to handle rose and I was the end-user as well . If someone else handled the rose to strip off the thorns for me, I might feel differently.

the video from Holland also mentioned part of what makes their roses a premium product is they allow the flowers to open a bit further on the plant . It reminds me of the premium tomatoes which are closer to ripe when they're packed . I remember people being astonished at seeing the cut garden roses my husband brought to work actually open up until you could see stamens . Apparently florist roses tend not to open to that extent before they wither.
as home rose gardeners, we're probably baffled at how much the price of roses is determined by the length of stems, all the way to superexpensive 5 foot stemmed roses.

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ndadna

I contacted. j schwanke (the producer and host of the video series the CA grown experience) through facebook. his YouTube videos of commercial cut flower rose propagation, production and harvesting are mesmerizing.
here is his answer to my question:
Thanks for the Email Nina and your kind comments...
Roses that are bred for commercial production are hybridized for Production... meaning they want to get many long stems... as quickly as possible... they are also bred to produce even better hydroponically and with using a commercial bending technique ... this process means that the roses are actually grafted to a mother stock... nettle briar... for the bending purpose...
So the long and short of the story... is that Commercial Roses are bred to produce many stems, quickly and also produce LONG straight stems.. and be partial to "bending"... if you watch the Eufloria Flowers Video on uBloom... (there are 3... Lily briefly explains this process)..

Commerical Roses wouldn't be very attractive in the garden... that is why there are different types for different purposes...

Hope that helps... Have a flower filled day!

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mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9

Oh WOW! Gorgeous!

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prairie_northrose (3b north of Calgary, AB, Canada)

It's great to hear of others' experiences with Morden Sunrise. I too love the many colours. No blackspot for me at this time. Here is a photo of mine:

And the same plant, a different bloom few weeks later, much more ruffled than the first:

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ut2nc

I have -and love - First Crush and it is doing really well. The flower form Improved over the summer once it was in the ground and the scent is amazing. The foliage is nice and clean. I am very happy with it! I hope you enjoy yours too.

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summersrhythm_z6a

I have to scoot over to Lowe's one more time.......if they have any of these lovely roses. :-)

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titian1 10b Sydney

comtesse, thanks for your concern. It's fine now, but I'm so glad I read this thread and realised it might be a fungus. The bleach really seemed to do the trick

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henry_kuska

If you have open wounds and are handling dangerous rose spraying chemicals without proper protection such as long sleeve shirts and gloves, all sorts of hard to diagnose problems can occur.

"Greater emphasis on the hazardous properties of these products is necessary to ensure non-professional users are aware of the necessity of protective clothing during mixing, loading, application and early re-entry into treated fields."

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/bcpt.12430/abstract;jsessionid=D05C98E1DC3C11016487F4AFEB5BD8B0.f02t02?userIsAuthenticated=false&deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=

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Sara-Ann Z6B OK

Even though I've never placed an order with them. I loved their website and I'm sure I would have eventually, it is sad.

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bethnorcal9

Awww bummer! That's what I was afraid of. Well, guess I'll have to bite the bullet and place a big order with Regans. They are closer, but more expensive. I need to replace quite a few roses I've lost over the last couple of yrs and from the septic dig-up. So sad to lose another supplier...

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