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seil zone 6b MI

The only one I have is Summer Fashion and while the blooms are lovely they are scarce and the plant is exceedingly slow growing, disease riddled and wimpy. I hunted and searched three years for this rose based on the gorgeous photos I found on the web but in real life, in my garden, it's a major disappointment.

    Bookmark   September 10, 2014 at 5:09PM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Cynthia
Oh! Too bad about Quo Vadis! Hopefully it will do better for you next year. I hope it's a great rose. :)
I'm excited about Yves Piaget!! Can't wait for that fragrance!!

At least I'll have good luck overwintering Lucille Ball since it goes in the garage overwinter. I'll post some pictures next summer so you can see it. Then maybe/maybe not you may want to try it again.

I love the look of your Broceliande EXCEPT I didn't realize that it doesn't have the height I want on the flowers. I don't particularly like when flowers have no shoulders and just sit among the leaves. I get kind of claustrophobic when I sniff the flowers. Hmmmm.....I have to think on this a bit.
Thanks for your help! :)

Oh Seil! What a disappointment to be so focused on a rose, and then meh? I wonder if I shouldn't order that one. Although - how long have you had it? Maybe it'll get better?

Carol

    Bookmark   September 10, 2014 at 7:42PM
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azjenny

Oh!! Sorry! I will edit right now. The wall will be east facing!!
Morning sun, afternoon shade. Sorry, just a typo but a very troubling one!
Thank you for all your advice :)

    Bookmark   September 9, 2014 at 10:52AM
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jaspermplants

SDLM is a must , so that one would be my first pick. Clothide Soupert is also a good rose, so that one I would recommend. My mother 's garden in Tempe has Gruss an Aachen and it is good here.

What about some tea roses (not hybrid teas) such as Maman Cochet, Mrs BR Can't, etc. They do very well in our hot, dry climate.

    Bookmark   September 10, 2014 at 1:21AM
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HollyKline

I'm just strategizing so I don't lose half of them, like I did last winter!

    Bookmark   September 7, 2014 at 7:25PM
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susan4952(5)

Lady year was grizzly for Chicago, too. Lost some monsters. Maybe I will drag out the dreaded C word this year......cones

    Bookmark   September 9, 2014 at 10:45PM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

GORGEOUS!!!!!
Carol

    Bookmark   September 8, 2014 at 1:15AM
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susan4952(5)

Beautiful. Love the name, too.

    Bookmark   September 9, 2014 at 10:42PM
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farmerduck

My MIL collects condensed water from our air con systems, and, when the systems are in full use, she can get up to 50 gallon a day. Not sure whether the water come from the humidifiers or not, but if you have such condensed water, it can add up over time. She just put a bucket under the pipes, and, when full, pour the water into a bigger bucket.

    Bookmark   September 9, 2014 at 8:58AM
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carlota(So. Calif. z.9)

I collect from our small air conditioner but will start collecting from our large one.

These suggestions are great, keep the coming!

Carlota

    Bookmark   September 9, 2014 at 8:01PM
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jacqueline9CA

Thanks, Henry.

    Bookmark   September 9, 2014 at 2:40PM
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roseblush1(8a/Sunset 7)

Good luck.

As long as he addresses the five different black spot races that are active in different parts of the US, siting of the roses and soil fertility and, of course, climate he may have something new to add to the discussion.

Smiles,
Lyn

    Bookmark   September 9, 2014 at 3:07AM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

The local nursery- La Sumida Santa Barbara CA, has a variety of boxed 60" tree roses. You could call and see what they have and how much $$$

    Bookmark   September 8, 2014 at 7:24PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

You could talk to Otto & Sons roses (who supply many nurseries and landscapers in SoCal).

I know they have carried them in the past.

Jeri

Here is a link that might be useful: Otto & Sons Nursery, Fillmore, CA

    Bookmark   September 8, 2014 at 9:11PM
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susan4952(5)

GC..one of the best in zone 5.

    Bookmark   September 6, 2014 at 7:53PM
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AnneCecilia z5 MI

OMG, Susan- that is a beautiful photo. I'll gladly wait a few years if my GC would look like that.
So I didn't have a chance to take any photos over the weekend, but as I was cleaning up after lunch today, I looked out my kitchen window and thought what a pretty view it was - and very representative of my mix of shrubs, roses, daylilies and other perrenials. It was taken through the screen, so please forgive the bit of fuzzyness.

And straight on as the fairy is looking, the tall canes are Evelyn. Never thought to see her so tall! If she manages to open any blooms at the ends of those canes before frost, I won't have to bend over to take a sniff of her delightful perfume, will I? ;-)

    Bookmark   September 8, 2014 at 8:43PM
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esther_b

I would say that this rose bush is about 4 feet tall. There is a basic base of thick brown old canes, from which radiate several new canes. Most of the new canes are thin and weak. Under the burden of several blossoms, they leaned low toward the ground. Those are not canes that should remain, in my opinion. There are about 2 decently strong canes that grew from the old brown base canes.

    Bookmark   September 8, 2014 at 12:29AM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

If your afraid of winter winds causing damage then cut a bit off.

But I'd wait until Spring to do any major pruning....

    Bookmark   September 8, 2014 at 8:21PM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

This will be my first time at overwintering roots rose canes. My plan is to put the small pots they're in into a much larger pot so that most of the cane is covered by soil. Then I'm going to cover with blankets. I'm also going to water once/month after December. Make sure you water them really, really well before they go into the garage.
Carol

    Bookmark   September 8, 2014 at 1:13AM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Ok thanks mad_gallica, Seil, & Carol for the info!

I'll let you know if they make it through the winter.

I have a Mister Lincoln in a container I have to try and overwinter... We have no garage so not sure of my plan of attack yet...

    Bookmark   September 8, 2014 at 8:17PM
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henry_kuska

Someone asked why don't you use Sevin?

Maybe the answer can be found in this article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbaryl

Here is a link that might be useful: link for above

    Bookmark   September 8, 2014 at 5:41PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Sorry Ingrid! Me is bad...

I remember seeing lots of Jb's years ago but have only seen a handful in the past 10+ years...

So this thread is interesting in case I need to use some of these ideas in the future...

    Bookmark   September 8, 2014 at 8:12PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Besides that Blaze is really only a once bloomer. That means it will only bloom one time in the spring and not again until the next spring. Golden Showers is a repeat bloomer so it should bloom in flushes all season. That's going to unbalance the whole thing. I think your idea is good and should work but you need to rethink which roses to use.

    Bookmark   September 8, 2014 at 4:47PM
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Michaela .:. thegarden@902 .:. (Zone 5b - Iowa)

I think that would look lovely!

I would consider something without thorns if you aren't completely set on those! There are lots of really pretty thornless roses.

Are you familiar with helpmefind.com? If you go there and go to advance search, you can select habit - thornless and see all the thornless roses. Regardless it's a super helpful website to have and you can stare at all the pretty roses this winter!

I don't grow it but zephirine Drouhin is a really popular thornless climber that is pretty vigorous and should do well in your zone.

Good luck & take lots of pictures! :o)

Michaela

Here is a link that might be useful: Zephirin Info

    Bookmark   September 8, 2014 at 5:36PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Can't make up my mind whether my one solitary Austin would be Molineux or Munstead Woods.

Kate

    Bookmark   September 8, 2014 at 10:10AM
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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

Kate---Keep them both. You'll be happy with both.

    Bookmark   September 8, 2014 at 11:39AM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

I've never seen Iceberg locally with flowers and leaves at the same time. Heritage isn't much better. It's a nice rose if sprayed, but I certainly couldn't call it a good no spray rose.

BTW, I've never seen a Heritage flower look like that one.

    Bookmark   September 8, 2014 at 8:33AM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

You mention finding Queen of Sweden and Scepter'd Isle as possible replacements. The Queen is good on BS resistance and has beautiful blooms, but it grows about 5-6 feet tall and is not a quick or heavy re-bloomer at all.

As for Scepter'd Isle, it will have some BS problems and its blooms do not last very long, although it is pretty good on re-bloom. Can't imagine it as a hedge-like rose--it is more slender and arching.

As for your current bushes, just pick off the yellow leaves and it should look considerably better.

Kate

    Bookmark   September 8, 2014 at 10:05AM
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