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seil zone 6b MI

Roses will withstand temps to about 28 degrees without much damage. When it dips below that there can be cell damage. The longer time below 28 the more damage done. As well as the further below 28 that you get too. A few hours between 28 and 32 shouldn't do a great deal of harm.

    Bookmark     March 29, 2015 at 5:48PM
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roserich

Thanks for the info Ann. I've been wondering about this lately...unfortunately. Susan

    Bookmark     March 29, 2015 at 8:51PM
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Jim_in_AV

So, my WWII Memorial, not being content to put out the first flush of the season, is sending out shoots for a SECOND flush.

    Bookmark     March 29, 2015 at 6:43PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Jim, it's a beautiful rose! Looks like such a good bloomer.

    Bookmark     March 29, 2015 at 7:16PM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

I grow Amethyst Falls :) It has blooms that look more like the shape of a grape cluster, not as long and pointed as the 'bad' kinds. Mine has been very mannerly, although it did spread one tendril under the mulch (years ago, apparently) that made a new one about 8 feet away! In my case that works perfectly, be still beware :D It does not have a pleasant scent to my nose. A little pungent, actually, like a weed or non-tasty herb. But it's still gorgeous! It re-blooms some, too.

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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

e596423, a pot that doesn't touch the soil might work, but you'd still want it to be the Japanese or American kind and not Chinese. I'd be happy to send you a rooted Amethyst Falls for postage, actually :) Then you wouldn't have to worry about that at all and you could still enjoy your wisteria practically wherever you'd like to put it!

    Bookmark     March 29, 2015 at 7:00PM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

Aw, Buford, that top part may well be toast :( Mine have not grown out that far at all this year. What's out is pretty much all leaves starting, so mine should be OK.

    Bookmark     March 29, 2015 at 6:10PM
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floridarosez9

Already did this the last of February. Very mild temps all winter long so everything thought it was spring. All my roses were covered in buds and blooms and then we had two nights of freezing temps. The plants were fine but I lost all the beautiful blooms, and the buds that are opening after the freeze are small and/or deformed. I don't know if I will get another spring flush or if I'm done.

    Bookmark     March 29, 2015 at 6:35PM
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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

I never thought to grow roses indoor except mini roses from grocery stores. Mine never did survive anyways. However on valentine's day, I did buy some florist roses and I notice that after a week, some of them start leaving out. I was going to try to see if they would start to root out but dismissed the idea. Although I love roses, I always feel they should be grown outdoors and I regard them as the crown of Summer. If I am surrounded by roses all year round, I will probably take them for granted. I find that during the dreary winter months, the thoughts of seeing them in the spring just melt the cold winter weather away.

    Bookmark     March 29, 2015 at 7:22AM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

I don't know about bugs, but my soil always acts very badly when indoors. I think I'd have to try some kind of special mix to keep it fungus-free. Or practically never water it or something. I do much better with houseplants bought in their own soil that need to be kept dry :)

    Bookmark     March 29, 2015 at 6:19PM
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Flowers and budsJulia Child Chrysler Imperial Olympiad PJP
Posted by deervssteve(9) March 29, 2015
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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)

Looking very promising for lots of flowers soon! I'm glad to see other people caging their roses so I'm not the only one LOL. I have a bunch of chickens that like to scratch up the little plants.

    Bookmark     March 29, 2015 at 1:52PM
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seil zone 6b MI

They're looking really great, Steve!

    Bookmark     March 29, 2015 at 5:51PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Neem oil is better than most for an organic solution. It is toxic to bees so spraying towards evening after bees have gone to bed is helpful. I do have bumble bees that spend the night on blooms. Watch spraying in hot weather I did in past burn my foliage even thou I started at dawn. It may have been very humid and wasn't dry by the time the sun hit. I just don't remember. Best of luck to you and your new roses.

    Bookmark     March 29, 2015 at 5:48PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Well, ya' can't save 'em all -- more's the pity.

    Bookmark     March 29, 2015 at 8:59AM
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roseseek(9)

No, and we shouldn't. Not only are they not all worth saving, but there is finite space for them. You have to throw out the out-grown wardrobe to make room for the new, even if the out-grown is still useful. You simply pass it along to someone else who wants it and can use it. Kim

    Bookmark     March 29, 2015 at 10:25AM
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sowandgrow

Thanks for sharing that link. His roses are amazing. It's a good thing the ground is still frozen it makes me want to dig mine all up and plant marigolds or something. I just got done reading a link someone posted about the alfalfa tea he brewed with the fish head ect. I was laughing so hard I had tears..I wonder if these pics were from before or after.

    Bookmark     March 29, 2015 at 7:33AM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

You'll have too read the other two links on there when you recover from the big stinking mess just as funny. I reread this probably once a year and laugh as much as the first time. This was from before but he grew them for a long time like this. I always wondered thou if after a spring show like this if they were capable of blooming again in the same year.

I have decided to up my fertilizer routine a bit this year. Spraying with Neptunes liquid fish/sea weed maybe every 3 weeks. Perhaps brewing a bit the alfalfa, fish and cotton seed meals are in the shed. I usually apply dry as brewing is a lot of work. I'm still happy with my bloom and have seen pictures of bloom of other organic gardeners whose roses look pretty darn good.http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.227584

    Bookmark     March 29, 2015 at 7:59AM
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seil zone 6b MI

I love it!

    Bookmark     March 28, 2015 at 2:08PM
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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

Wow, this is definitely not an everyday rose. It is beautiful and definitely out of this world. Thank You for sharing with us.

    Bookmark     March 28, 2015 at 9:02PM
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Is this thrip damage or some thing else?
Posted by campv March 27, 2015
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campv

Thanks Everyone

    Bookmark     March 28, 2015 at 3:29PM
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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1644810/weird-bud-deformaties

I found the link from a few years ago when I first had the bullhead buds. I'm sure it's from the cold, it's not typical proliferation where there is a bud inside a bloom. It's a stunted bloom.

    Bookmark     March 28, 2015 at 4:18PM
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humble5

Reposted in Antique Roses

    Bookmark     March 28, 2015 at 10:26AM
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cecily(7 VA)

Mine is 8 years old and our springs are always cold, cloudy and rainy -- I haven't seen small flowers on Marie. I'd be awfully disappointed if mine ever did that, I understand your concern.

    Bookmark     March 28, 2015 at 2:19PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Those deformations are familiar from other roses, but not the one I am curious about, curious to hear what others think

    Bookmark     March 28, 2015 at 11:29AM
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SoFL Rose z10

This happens to my roses like 2x a year. I cannot explain what causes them to form this way, but it seems to affect many different varieties and usually around the same time. Some varieties (elegant fairy tale, sugar moon, mr Lincoln)are more prone to it than others. I live in south Fl so cold or frost damage is certainly not the culprit.

I read once that too much alfalfa can cause this to happen, and I think there is a coorolation because one year I used copious amounts of Rose Tone (which contains Alfalfa) and that was the year that I had it the worst. (I no longer use rose tone and I've seen a significant decline). Not to say that Rose Tone is bad, I believe it to be a good product, but I used it in pots and perhaps it was too concentrated.

Have any if you seen a cooralation between using alfalfa meal and phyllody (or near phyllody) like Hoov says?

    Bookmark     March 28, 2015 at 11:38AM
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growing_rene2

Those look great! I hope you end up with lots of happy, healthy growth by the end of this season. :)

    Bookmark     March 28, 2015 at 4:03AM
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laura242424

Thanks all, I hope to post 1st-year pictures at the end of the season, for reference!

    Bookmark     March 28, 2015 at 8:50AM
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cecily(7 VA)

Joe, I'm glad that you're watching for spider mites and know to wash them off if they show up -- that's a real hazard of routine insecticide use. The cheap inorganic fertilizer that's included in the 3 in 1 does not improve your soil; I hope you added compost and an organic mulch this spring.

    Bookmark     March 28, 2015 at 6:55AM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

If you are in a blackspot prone region, alkaline soil doesn't get you anywhere. (except you aren't growing multiflora or rugosas)

1 Like    Bookmark     March 28, 2015 at 8:16AM
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