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I purchased this rose at Mercer Arboretum's March Mart 2 years ago and have NO complaints. Here, close to Houston, with heavy clay in our soil, mine has taken off. No, it's not a very large bush, but it's not supposed to be. Mine blooms continuously, year round, even through winter. Can't wait to start some more from cuttings!
Well I should report that mine were also more of a Bengal Kitten - pretty wimpy plants. The blooms, however are quite lovely. I moved them last fall and so far they seem to be a little more robust, so hopefully they will be happier in their new location.
Jerijen, I think it's just called Bengal Tiger because money from the sale goes to help save the cat from extinction. It's got a mild striping of colors I suppose tho.
You are looking for shrub/floribundas with hybrid tea-like blooms. Is that correct? I'm kinda hard pressed (I am sure some will come to me other than OLoG), but a Grandiflora that sets a lot of blooms is Cherry Parfait. Perhaps another Buck rose, Hawkeye Belle. Oh, one of my faves, Summer Fashion!
This is a good rose. It's called Mother of Pearl. No fragrance which is why I gave it to a friend. It blooms tons. This rose is a young rose. HMF lists it as growing to 4 1/2 feet tall. And says it is prolific. The two pink flowers on the right belong to another rose - the rest is all Mother of Pearl. Carol
Give me aphids all day long and I will give you my Thrips. Agree with Seil just spray them with dish soap. It will suffocate the guys but you will need to repeat every week they reproduce like crazy. If you have a 1 gal sprayer add one (1) tbl spoon to 1gl of water, mix and spray away. Not in the hot sun and you can use the cheep dollar store dish soap.
I've tried Leonie Lamesch at least once and maybe twice in my zone 5 Nebraska yard. At least once was in full sun and decent protection, so I'd probably rate it as marginally hardy in zone 5 at best. I have it on order again this fall and will give it a more prime location and see if that helps. I'm guessing that its actual hardiness falls somewhere in the zone 6 range, but in a protected spot it might do fine, or with extra winter protection like I provide my teas. Never say never, but I'd be a bit cautious in my zone 5.
Cynthia
Thank you both for the info! I thrives in my zone 9 (actually I think 10 lately) garden, but I was just wondering.... actually, I was wondering about the hardiness of "Schmidt's Smooth Yellow" which we think might be 'Eugenie Lamesch', (evidently a lost rose) which was hybridized by the same hybridizer (Peter Lambert) in Germany in the same year (1899) as 'Leonie Lamesch' (Leonie was his wife, and Eugenie her younger sister). I have grown them side by side, and they have exactly the same growth habit, leaves, and bloom form, but the blooms are way different in color, and SSY is entirely thornless, while LL is moderately so.
Jackie
I checked all the links except the one I couldn't get and I am struck! Couldn't believe it's possible to grow such perfect roses in a cold climate. I know I can't. Not that I haven't tried with my only mass planting but there are always irritating gaps after dead roses or plants that are too short to make an impact.
I don't quite understand why they are testing these hardy roses in warmer places like Vancouver and Vineland. Isn't Vineland near Niagara on the Lake where they used to grow peaches? One problem with rose growing in northern Scandinavia is not so much the winter cold as the short and cool summer. We are more maritime than continental, at least Norway and most parts of Sweden. Finland and the other Baltic States are more continental as well as Russia, of course. I agree that Russia will probably be the core market for these roses.
Yes, I agree, Vineland is by Niagara and the area is listed more as a zone 6 according to Canada's plant hardiness map. I did more digging, and came across this other article, which says they are testing at the University of Saskatchewan (they sure make Saskatchewan sound cold, lol) among some other locations:
http://www.aginnovationontario.ca/en/new-canadian-roses-disease-resistant-cold-hardy-and-low-maintenance/
I thought this was neat too, this video shows Vineland's rose testing field. Some of the bushes look pretty vigorous, and there are so many types! :http://globalnews.ca/video/1425222/scientists-try-and-create-a-perfectly-canadian-rose
I agree with the newer varieties lacking in fragrance. I really do hope they preserve that.
I am just glad that they are continuing with a program, and that there are funds for it. I love my roses Winnipeg Parks from the Parkland series, and Emily Carr from the Canadian Artist series, I think it is fantastic how far the selection of roses available for cold zones has grown. Growing up, all I knew was Therese Bugnet and Hansa!
First Spring blooms in my garden were seen today -- two Iris reticulata 'Pixie' of the hundred I planted last Autumn. I see signs of the others coming up -- a hundred each of Crocus tommasinianus 'Lilac Beauty', Chionodoxa 'Alba', and Anemone blanda 'Blue Shades' were naturalized with the Iris, planted over a layer of a hundred Narcissus 'Fragrant Mix' in the main rose beds, all from Van Engelen. There's also some Hyacinthoides non-scripta planted with the Gallicas, and Ipheion 'Starry Nights Mix' planted in the full-sun border that are poking through. So signs of life, but thus far only those two Iris blooms.
Oh, and the roses all have swelling buds. "Bermuda Spice" actually kept quite a few green leaves -- being as it was covered in snow for much of the cold part of Winter. But I think they'll be pushed off by new leaves in just a few weeks.
:-)
~Christopher
Back when I had the worst case of rose midge my foliage was gorgeous. Should this continue for you or if you see a very reduced bud count rose midge would likely be the reason. Some times you don't see the burn't tips. They can also so bite the tender foliage in the leaf axis where the buds would form. Instead of buds you'll see a black mark where the buds would have formed. Last year was my first sign of midge rearing its head again in a long time. I'm a little worried about what I'll see this year. Either way hope you see those roses soon.
In total agreement. (but, believe me, Gulf Coastal summers are brutal and they last more than three months.)
What bugs me the most is that some powers in DC can decide to average different years, and all of a sudden, our hopes are up. Only to be dashed by reality.
I've been reading a lot of history, and some of it pertains to our problems with temperatures. You may remember reading about Alexis De Tocqueville... he visited North American in 1831. Part of his trip was a planned return up the Mississippi in December. BUT the Mississippi had ice flows on it so far south into southern Mississippi that he had to travel overland.
Late 1890's the north end of Mobile Bay froze solid. (That would be the fresh water wedge above the saltier waters, but, still, it froze solid.)
We don't see those temperatures now, even at the extreme end of the temperature bell curves.
This also leads to an admiration for the Noisettes which were new introductions in that winter of 1831, which a lot of them survived. IMO our wimpy roses came about because green houses in the late 1800s became common and roses and other flowers grown there were wanted outside of greenhouses.
thank you stillann for your information and advice, I pruned back the rose quite far being careful to disinfect the pruners between cuts. I checked some of the other roses and there were a couple of suspicious canes here and there and I've pruned them back to and put it all on the burn pile. Guess I'll be watching for it now and being a lot more careful when handling the bushes and pruning to not spread anything.
Sure is nice to have this resource with so many experienced rose people willing to help!
Just a quick update, I'm moving my little rose bush to my friend's house today to live outside. Thanks for all of your advice and hopefully it'll grow ok in it's new location. I've been misting it every day, so hopefully that will have helped it along. At least my other plants are growing well!
I feel for you guys who have fire ants in your area. When my husband was in the Navy yrs ago, he got shore duty at the Naval Air Base in Beeville , TX. The fire ants there were horrible! Our older son was a toddler and he walked thru an ant hill, in just a diaper. OMG! The screaming and crying, the blisters, the pain that poor kid went thru! And I got stung as well on my feet, toes and in between my toes when I ran to grab him. The burning pain, the pustule-like blisters, that would pop and burn like fire, then fill up time and again. Took days and weeks for them to go away completely. I am sooo glad we don't have fire ants here (yet). I understand they are in some areas of southern CA. I hope they never make it up here!
Amdro. You must use that. Greatest thing since the dishwasher. Fire Ants aren't ants at all, they are in the wasp family. If you ever get stung by them, you will run for the Amdro.