22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

Does Fourth of July smell nice? We cannot get it in Australia.

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bonny46(6)
To my nose, Fourth of July has just a faint fragrance, but other people have said it is medium. In no way is it strong. However, everyone comments on the beautiful colors.
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seil zone 6b MI

Hi Jacquie, I don't grow it myself but have several friends that do. It can be tip hardy in mild winters but in colder ones, like the past two, it dies down almost too the ground. They all have it on a trellis of some sort though. It does black spot and in really hot humid weather the blooms can ball up and not open.

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kublakan

I'm so glad I ordered more roses from Brecks, after all I only have a handful of roses according to this equation. Enablers indeed. lol

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countrygirl_sc, Upstate SC(7a)

after not counting the roses in pots #4, i have 18 roses. 7 fall under #6 and if you count the 2 from cuttings that were given to me, that leaves 9. 1 under #3 and 5 under #5 leaves 3! Rounding down (#7) leaves 2! I'm glad I ordered those 14 from Breck's because I am almost roseless. OH, just realized I'll still only have 2 because of #12. Yipes! I need to buy more roses. kublakan, you will still only have a handful because bareroots don't count. LOL

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jeremy067390

I would say dig it out and replant it lower. Dig the hole extra large and include lots of good dirt and organic matter. I have found that generally anything can be successfully replanted even if it has bad root structure like my now 13th tomato plant. It just takes great dirt and waaaaaaaaaaater!!!!!! Like every single morning. I have found the biggest set back is often a year of poor growth.

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seil zone 6b MI

There could be a lot of reasons why it's not growing but I'm sure it took a hard hit from winter. I would dig it out, getting as big a root ball as possible, and replant it at a lower depth. It might set it back again temporarily but in the long run it will do better.

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view1ny NY 6-7

Summer, I was looking at the Wayside website but was put off by so many negative reviews online. I had been thinking of Tranquility, Molinieux & everlasting amethyst hydrangea. I'm just not in the mood of dealing with a hassle if the plants are disappointing. Have you ordered from Wayside?

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summersrhythm_z6a

Yes, I have ordered a lot since I saw John's thread. :-) I received 12 of them so far, and 10 more are on their way, and my rose friend at work just asked me if I wanted to order with her again today, I put down for 3 more. Lol

There are some photos of the roses I received on John's thread . The roots were huge, and the roses all have David Austin's rose tags on them. Some of them are own root roses. I am pretty happy about the roses I received so far, the roots are much bigger than the ones I ordered from David Austin Roses in TX, and I paid about $120 for 4 DA roses 3 weeks ago.

The 10 roses on their way are 6xTranquillity, 1 Alnwick, 2x Carding Mill, 1 Heathcliff.

Happy shopping! :-)

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

I don't see "view", just "Join for Free".

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henry_kuska

On my computer, I am a member so I get to read it directly. On my wife's computer (she is not a member) a small screen appears asking her to join free. After Xing out that small screen, the "view" is still active and clicking it gave the full paper.

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seil zone 6b MI

Three posts, lol!

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phasedweasel(7b)

Thanks - I emailed them this morning, they're the last I haven't heard back from.

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summersrhythm_z6a

Good luck dear! :-)

Also you can try Burlington Roses in CA.

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jerijen(Zone 10)

Put your hand behind the stem, and support it, while washing with water.

Or you can just brush/squish them. If you leave them, as ozmelodye says, birds will eat them.

Don't use pesticide. That's like trying to swat flies with a sledge hammer.

Don't use oils in hot weather, or when hot weather is expected. You will burn the foliage, and do far more damage than a few aphids.

Don't worry. Between birds, predatory insects, and rising temperatures, they will soon be gone.

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henry_kuska

When roses are attacked by aphids, they produce a chemical that repels further aphids.

"Author: MILES P W
Author Address: WAITE AGRIC. RES. INST., UNIV. ADELAIDE, ADELAIDE, S. AUST.
Title: DYNAMIC ASPECTS OF THE CHEMICAL RELATION BETWEEN THE ROSE APHID MACROSIPHUM-ROSAE AND ROSE BUDS
Published in: Entomologia Experimentalis et Applicata, volumn 37, pages 129-136, (1985).
Abstract: "Dynamic aspects of the chemical relation between the rose aphid [Macrosiphum rosae] and rose buds.In warm weather, M. rosae (L.) walks off buds of hybrid tea roses during a critical period coinciding with the opening of the sepals. This behavior could not be related to histologically detectable barriers to feeding, nor to changes in the water content of the tissues or in their composition with respect to total soluble carbohydrate, amino nitrogen or phenolic compounds; major changes in tissue chemistry, effected by spraying the bushes with urea, did not affect the time at which the aphids left the buds. Tissue sap expressed from stems and sepals showed a significant increase in catechin content after, rather than during, the critical period. Once expressed, however, sap from buds at the critical stage showed a sharp in vitro rise in catechin content over a few hours, up to levels approximating those against which the insects discriminated in choice tests. The insects could well be sensitive to a developing capacity of tissue to accumulated catechin, possibly in response to their feeding activity."

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1570-7458.1985.tb03463.x/abstract;jsessionid=9592B0EB479135BE3145694EC09E96AB.f02t01?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false

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seil zone 6b MI

Yep, buds galore here too! It won't be long now before we'll all have pics to share!

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Blooms started coming the past couple days here...

Yes post pics of your blooms bonny46! :-)

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vasue VA(7A Charlottesville)

Funny you should ask. Been meaning to pose the same question since I picked one up 3 weeks ago. Searching this forum turned up some helpful prior feedback. http://www.gardenweb.com/gardenweb/query/montezuma/topic=roses

As the lone specimen of Montezuma at Lowes, it stood out for its healthy foliage & coral salmon half-open bloom with a detectable fruity fragrance. The name rang a dim memory bell & the sale price of $8 proved irresistible. A nicely branched, properly pruned, grafted potted rose with 3 buds & one fresh bloom at the time, it's tagged as grown by Dewar Nurseries, a wholesale grower in Apopka, FL. http://www.greenhousegrower.com/business-management/dewar-nurseries-making-the-grade/ Like all new arrivals, it went into isolation in a sunny spot where I could keep an eye on it before introduction to the garden. The coral buds opened slowly to salmon blooms that expanded to include a wash of golden pink & held on the bush a good 10 days with the warm days & cooler nights we had. Coral America & strawberry-salmon Rosarium Uetersen/Seminole Wind were coming into bloom near the house & the hues of all three played well together. Snapping off the spent blossoms, noticed more buds coming along & just counted a dozen that will likely open in the next few days. Looks promising...

My old Taylor's Guide to Roses mentions Montezuma "comes very close to the grandiflora ideal...good all season bloom...slightly fragrant...4-1/2-5'...upright, very vigorous, compact and well branched...disease resistant and winter hardy...canes moderately thorny...leaves medium green, leathery, semiglossy".

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nummykitchen(Z5B)

I love my Montezuma! It has been going strong for a few years surviving our brutal winters and constantly giving lots of beautifully shaped coral orange blooms. One that I can count on for that perfect HT rose form that I love.

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rabainsz7bpnw

It's almost 4 yrs.. Very fragrant and in zone 7b

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cadiarose(zone 7a, NJ)

I would guess it's Julia Child. She has shiny leaves like your first photo, loads of blooms like your 2nd photo. A great floribunda to have.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Blackspot can be controlled by spraying in a tank sprayer a product containing propiconazole (Banner Maxx and other brands) or tebuconazole (Bayer Disease Control for Roses, Flowers, and Shrubs) at two week intervals. Or you can wait it out, as summers in inland Texas are usually too hot for BS to spread a whole lot.

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seil zone 6b MI

You have had so much rain of late that it isn't surprising at all that things are spotting. If you can wait out the weather it should clear up on it's own.

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Carolina P

mmjau, new rose growth is often red. It is only when it is coupled with a few another symptom that you should expect RRV. See the below photo for an example of a rose from my garden that definitely had the virus.

Rose with RRV

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seil zone 6b MI

Many roses have red new growth that turns green as it matures. That alone is not a sign of RRD.

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

Welcome and hello Donna. Well, since we are enabling, here is Tequila Supreme.

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Donna R zone 6a

How pretty she is, Jasiminerose. Beautiful delicate shading…..

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