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I had thought about asking about this rose on the Forum..........I grew mine from a band - it is 4-5 years old. Have it on a fence with other climbers, excellent sun, I water regularly. the few blooms I have gotten were not impressive and quite small. It grows really well - I may have to sock the fertilizer to it. It hasn't impressed me - but not to say it couldn't. It IS very healthy! Would enjoy hearing some other comments on this one.
Judith
OK, so zone 5 is probably still quite cold and that's a good thing. Now is a very good time to make the move. In your yard as soon as you can dig your soil prepare the spot you want to put them in. Holes for planting should be at least 2 feet deep and wide. Don't add chemical fertilizer to the holes but any kind of organic materials are fine. You will need some kind of pots to put them in when you dig them out. Any kind of container or old pots you have that are big enough will work for long enough to move them. I have used ordinary wash buckets from the dollar store to keep plants in for moving. Since you will be cutting some of the roots, there really is no way to avoid that, and if the roses are quite tall you may want to prune the roses back by about half before the move. It will make them easier to handle and put less stress on the root system starting out. Dig up the roses trying to keep the root ball intact as much as possible and put them in your pots. Get them home as quick as possible and get them back in the ground. You don't want the roots to dry out. Place them in your holes and water them some. Then start back filling them and gently tamping the soil in to get out any air pockets. When done water them again. Keep them well watered but not soggy wet until you begin to see some new growth on them. Then you can go to a regular watering schedule and give them some half strength fertilizer.
Hope that helps and please ask if you have any other questions.
Another thing you can do with roses like these that want to climb or reach for the sun is to train the primary canes horizontally. You can either attach the canes to a surface behind them (like a trellis or pillar), or peg the canes to the ground in a fountain type shape. Paul Zimmerman has a nice video you can google about this. The reason they're blooming only on the end is that the rose puts its energies into the highest canes. When the main canes get horizontal, it will grow more laterals (side branches off the main canes, as Seil mentions), and those will flower a lot more along the length of the cane. You probably want to keep some primary canes unpruned with this method, if you want to encourage blooms this year, but you can always prune out underperforming canes or the oldest canes every year to increase blooms.
Cynthia
I'd prune them now before they leaf out, cut them back so they will branch out and get bushier with the summer's growth. They will still flower this year on the old wood that remains, just lower down. Since they only flower at the top, you aren't really losing any flowers by pruning them now, it's just more compact. And it'll be more self-supporting when it blooms. Long and leggy is likely to fall over in full bloom, especially when wet, or need staking.
The other thing you can do if you leave some long canes is to peg them horizontally so you get blooms along the stem. That will increase your blooms this year and you can cut them back after blooming to encourage a more bushy shape.
Ha! cjrosaphile. I love that expression, and I totally agree. I still have to prune my two Julias, and I dread it. There are so dang many canes on those roses it's just solid rose, and they really need some thinning. Diane
Yep, did mine yesterday and had comments on 263 that I currently have and have grown for years, and noticed another perhaps 200 that I have grown but don't have enough experience on to be making definitive statements. I agree with Jeri that this is really important! In several cases, I would notice a rose that is wonderful for me having basement ratings, or something that is a dog for me getting glowing ratings. Remember that the original Roses in Review ratings could be based on only a few responders, since they're often new roses without a chance to be widely grown, so it's important to adjust the ratings like they do. Of course different roses grow differently across various zones, but these ratings are intended to reflect the variety of conditions and locations for roses grown. Since the ratings get used by people around the world, I don't see any reason they wouldn't welcome your input as well, Malorena!
It's a simple process, just judging if the scores listed should be increased or decreased by various intervals. There are a lot of common roses on there - Peace, Veteran's Honor, Darlow's Enigma, Abraham Darby to mention a few - so odds are there will be a few that you grow even if you don't have a huge garden. Do it! It's also interesting to see what roses you grow or are considering are rated, even though you don't necessarily have to agree. It was reassuring to see quite a few that bit the dust unmercifully in my yard getting dreadful ratings. Maybe it's not just me (smile)
Cynthia
She is listed as Guinevere on the floribunda list on Roses Unlimited's website.
ok, I promised myself I was going to let my roses get through their leap year this year and see where I landed before purchasing any more. I may have to break that promise for this rose....
PLEASE post photos when you get blooms! She is gorgeous!
Thanks Patty W!
Thanks Seil, music to my ears! I was hoping that may be the case, even though they recommend 24 hrs with no rain (which was the plan). No leaves yet, just spraying the canes/soil. Either way, I'd have to wait a prescribed time to spray again and use a lesser amount w/water. We'll see.
I saw on one of these other forums someone used a round cow hay bale feeder for a moon/gate door. Might work as well for an arch. If you could find one used on Craig's List or somewhere and paint it how you wanted...even better. They are expensive new.
I have put ads up on Craigslist for wanted things and got really good deals. I bought a wine cooler dirt cheap so I could take all the insides out and turn it into a egg incubator.
http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1372419/moon-gates?n=3
Roses were quite often kept as house plants in Sweden when living rooms were kept very cold and hardly lived in except at Christmas and other special occasions. Hermosa was a common variety. A tea rose growing in a village in the far north of the country was discovered in 2006 during the national survey of old cultivated plants that ran from 2005 to 2010. It is not known how the rose came to Mrs Anna Sofia Vestman who died in 1932. It was inherited by her daughter Vera who gave it to Mr Bo Önell in the late 60ies. He has given away cuttings locally for many years. The rose is put outside in summer and spends winters indoors in a cold room. Mr Önell was awarded the Golden Pea in 2008 for his growing skills:
Thank-you Ingrid. The work that Alistair and Suzanne do with these donkeys is amazing. It is heartwarming to visit just to collect some manure, but find that the newest donkey, that was a poor, frightened, damaged beast when it first arrived, is now settled in, approachable, well and friendly.
Also, I was hoping to send the tone of these posts in a new direction. Doesn't look as though it worked!
Daisy
It was a good try though, Daisy, and Ingrid... :¬)
Sam. If you're finding a particular forum member's line of enquiries or personality tiresome, may I suggest you simply don't bother reading and answering them? After all, life's too short ...unless of course you're a slightly obsessed stalker/ troller - I hope that's not the case here.
As has already been pointed out, this forum is intended to be for the (generally pretty amiable) discussion of roses and rose-growing; not for the persistent pursuit of personal vendettas/ interrogations.
Or, as we say in Australia, 'Give it a rest, Mate...!'
Comtesse :¬)
Evelyn is one of my favorite, but the most fragrant rose in my garden is Mme. Issac Pereire. In my garden, it is a prolific spring bloomer, with a late repeat. It can get unruly and here in the wet and damp Pacific North West, black spot sets in late summer and through the fall. I just don't bother fighting it, as this rose is tough enough to spring back every year.
I will have another look at Tamora. Does she have a strong sweet scent? I was thinking of having two apricots with strong scent next to the house where i can smell them from inside on warm summer days. I think Lady Emma for one and the second, not sure.
So far I have Cr Princess M, Don Juan, Warm Welcome and Royal Gold by the house and room between a couple of them for two medium sized apricots. I thought yellow because of DJ but apricot looks better with WW and CPM and nice with the red or yellow roses. I have 6 windows open on the computer with pictures of the different roses together figuring out colours that look good next to each other and apricot seems to work. No obsession with roses in this house, ha ha!! Any thoughts?