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Had to share.... may there be peace
Posted by campv April 8, 2015
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bluegirl_gw

Stunning! Just lovely!

    Bookmark   April 9, 2015 at 5:39PM
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campv

Thanks everyone for the very nice comments

Camp Verde, Arizona

    Bookmark   April 10, 2015 at 2:56PM
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Donna Crisler

I just saw this for the first time and I'm so glad that I found this site to help me understand what is happening! The first picture is obviously the one I'm talking about. The second is on the same plant and looks normal.

Thanks for the information!

    Bookmark   April 10, 2015 at 2:38PM
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seil zone 6b MI

It happens from time to time. May be too much nitrogen or maybe odd weather. Either way the next bloom will probably be just fine.

1 Like    Bookmark   April 10, 2015 at 2:49PM
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kathy9norcal

Thanks, irisgal! Disneyland blooms more than Chihuly over a longer season. It can look spectacular, too. But they are really different colors, that is for sure.Disneyland

Chihuly, bush and buds

    Bookmark   Thanked by Theresa McHarney    April 9, 2015 at 10:42PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I loved my Disneyland but FYI, it was not very hardy for me. You're a zone warmer so that may help but I would think about winter protection anyway.

    Bookmark   April 10, 2015 at 1:11PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Rideau Rose Lad has it. He posts sometimes on the Antique Rose Forum.

    Bookmark   April 10, 2015 at 8:50AM
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seil zone 6b MI

I do have several Buck roses and I love them. They have nice bushy growth habits and good repeat bloom. My favorite is Quietness and it's relatively healthy, very hardy and blooms all the time. I just think it needs to be pointed out that, as you said, they're not all created equal. Iobelle is a gorgeous rare Buck HT. It was a BS magnet and not very hardy to boot!

Others I have or had are Rural Rhythm, spotty and a wimpy grower, and Country Music, another spot magnet and poor grower. On the other hand Winter Sunset grows quite well and rarely spots for me. You just never know. Try Dakota Song out and see for yourself how it does. Then let us know because it's gorgeous!

    Bookmark   April 10, 2015 at 12:58PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Honestly if I lived down by Chamblee's and some of the nurseries you have. I surely would not have a dime left to spend on food.

    Bookmark   April 10, 2015 at 7:26AM
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Beth9116 zone 8a TX

ruthz, all of my roses are in pots because our terrible black clay ground.

I placed an order with Chamblees to be picked up at a later date. I had planned on waiting to choose roses while we were at the nursery. The spring flush is several weeks late this year so we will be visiting the gardens later than we planned. It usually is the second week in April but they are saying the end of April or maybe the first of May for a good flush so we won't be at Chamblees until May and I was afraid they'd be selling out of things.

Then of course I might just find something else while I am there!

    Bookmark   April 10, 2015 at 9:21AM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Is that referring to a commercial rose growing situation

    Bookmark   April 9, 2015 at 10:28PM
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henry_kuska

I hope that westerners will be able to modify it (or use part of their solution such as the use of coir) for home use.

http://blogs.usda.gov/2015/04/10/in-the-west-preparing-for-uncertain-water-supply/

    Bookmark   April 10, 2015 at 9:20AM
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sam 4b Adirondacks

Layman's terms?

    Bookmark   April 10, 2015 at 6:02AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Spider mites were repelled and poisoned by alcohol extracts of spider plant, common stinging nettle, and chili pepper (each separately) when rose leaves were dipped in the solution. Cleome was most effective.

Note: it doesn't mean that growing the plants alongside roses will control spider mites on roses.

    Bookmark   April 10, 2015 at 6:56AM
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bethnorcal9

It's not exactly a show-type bloom. But it's pretty. (I don't exhibit)


    Bookmark   Thanked by rosydreams    April 2, 2015 at 9:59PM
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rosydreams(10b SoCal sunset zone 19)

Hello, thank you. :)

I hope it does do better for you than it does for me, Seil.

Hmm, interesting Beth. Your blooms are much better looking than mine... That does give me some hope. The edge of the petals seem to curve out while mine stay cupped in, even in full sun. Maybe I just need to give it another year.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2015 at 11:45PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

I'm happy you got some good answers. Hope they recover for you.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 8:36AM
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MaryAnn1950

I am happy to announce that Prof. Manners feels that it is herbicidal damage. I will just keep a close eye out on them and keep you posted. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH !!!!!

1 Like    Bookmark   April 9, 2015 at 5:40PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thanks to both of you, my guess is, you are correct.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2015 at 5:36PM
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bluegirl_gw

the flower form & big leaves look very much like the ones I've seen.

Yes, baby roses are often quite different looking. And our first spring blooms are often a bit weird, too--I've got a Pink Poodle & a Rosette Delizy blooming with virtually white blooms--just a hint of blush. But the new buds are coloring out correctly.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2015 at 5:38PM
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ameri2nal

Livin easy is just as thorny

    Bookmark   Thanked by Theresa McHarney    April 9, 2015 at 5:21PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Check Easy Does It out here:

Click on photos at the top of page for more pics:

http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.58853

    Bookmark   Thanked by leah02    April 9, 2015 at 10:19AM
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mzstitch(Zone 7b South Carolina)

Leah I normally prune my Julia Childs right down to about two feet. Around August I start doing some severe deadheading instead of all over pruning. As flowers die instead of a normal short deadheading I take that particular cane down. i'm guessing no more than a foot. On some of my other roses that have canes like octopus arms I take them back by as much as three feet. This is just the way I've learned to keep my roses manageable without losing out on any blooms as the rest of the plant keeps giving me flowers.

    Bookmark   Thanked by leah02    April 9, 2015 at 4:52PM
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toolbelt68(7)

I suggest you use pressure treated 1 x 4 or 1 x 6 inch boards. Cut the boards in 8 inch lengths then cut the corners off at one end of each board. Next dig a trench around the bed, inserts the boards vertically so that notched end and 5 inches or so are above ground. Back fill around the boards and you have a boarder that can easily be replaced, expanded, and/or relocated as needed.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2015 at 2:15PM
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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)

We make our chicken runs from 2x4 treated boards and they even rot here in the humidity in about 2 years. Bricks and cement blocks seem to last. Rebar seems to last. I have had several metal trellises rust rot and break. I just pulled the last one down last week. It was a large arch and was so cute and had a gate too but alas they all rust.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2015 at 2:33PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Looking at the photos on HMF there are several full plant shots from the Carolinas and California. The bush looks to get maybe 4 x 4 feet in those. That's about average for an HT.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2015 at 2:00PM
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farmerduck

I have one grafted on multiflor rootstock. I am in Z6b NJ. Extremely vigorous, about 6 feet tall 2 feet wide after 3 seassons, stiff, thorny cane, wonderful repeat and fragrance, wonderful blackspot resistance grown in a no-spary condition. One of the few HTs I have. All together a wonderful rose. Fairly winter hardy for a HB too, but it is probably a nonissue where you live.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2015 at 2:13PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Edited. Just noticed you wrote Pink Cloud not Pink Clouds

    Bookmark   April 9, 2015 at 9:03AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Pink Cloud is a healthy grower and was, at one time, used as a root stock rose. It may only get 6 feet tall but I think it can spread much wider than that if not trellised in some way.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2015 at 1:37PM
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