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Thanks Patty W!
Thanks Seil, music to my ears! I was hoping that may be the case, even though they recommend 24 hrs with no rain (which was the plan). No leaves yet, just spraying the canes/soil. Either way, I'd have to wait a prescribed time to spray again and use a lesser amount w/water. We'll see.
I saw on one of these other forums someone used a round cow hay bale feeder for a moon/gate door. Might work as well for an arch. If you could find one used on Craig's List or somewhere and paint it how you wanted...even better. They are expensive new.
I have put ads up on Craigslist for wanted things and got really good deals. I bought a wine cooler dirt cheap so I could take all the insides out and turn it into a egg incubator.
http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1372419/moon-gates?n=3
Roses were quite often kept as house plants in Sweden when living rooms were kept very cold and hardly lived in except at Christmas and other special occasions. Hermosa was a common variety. A tea rose growing in a village in the far north of the country was discovered in 2006 during the national survey of old cultivated plants that ran from 2005 to 2010. It is not known how the rose came to Mrs Anna Sofia Vestman who died in 1932. It was inherited by her daughter Vera who gave it to Mr Bo Önell in the late 60ies. He has given away cuttings locally for many years. The rose is put outside in summer and spends winters indoors in a cold room. Mr Önell was awarded the Golden Pea in 2008 for his growing skills:
Thank-you Ingrid. The work that Alistair and Suzanne do with these donkeys is amazing. It is heartwarming to visit just to collect some manure, but find that the newest donkey, that was a poor, frightened, damaged beast when it first arrived, is now settled in, approachable, well and friendly.
Also, I was hoping to send the tone of these posts in a new direction. Doesn't look as though it worked!
Daisy
It was a good try though, Daisy, and Ingrid... :¬)
Sam. If you're finding a particular forum member's line of enquiries or personality tiresome, may I suggest you simply don't bother reading and answering them? After all, life's too short ...unless of course you're a slightly obsessed stalker/ troller - I hope that's not the case here.
As has already been pointed out, this forum is intended to be for the (generally pretty amiable) discussion of roses and rose-growing; not for the persistent pursuit of personal vendettas/ interrogations.
Or, as we say in Australia, 'Give it a rest, Mate...!'
Comtesse :¬)
If they were mine, I would GENTLY, trying not to disturb what few roots the poor things still have, transplant them all into MUCH BIGGER clay pots. Then I would cut the roses down by about half - the damaged roots cannot support so much top growth. The top growth will grow back if you give the roots a chance to grow first. NO FOOD, NO POISONS, just water. They must be put outside in the sun, without any saucer under the pot (the roots will rot otherwise), so it can drain. Then just leave them completely alone except to make sure the soil stays moist (not sopping). They should "do nothing" for about a month, while they are growing roots you cannot see. Then if they have survived, they will start to put out some leaves. That is when you can feed them, but only half strength from the directions. Rose food only, no "2 in 1", or "3 in 1" products. Good luck!
Jackie
Hello everyone, thank you for the comments. I did put drain holes on the bottom, but maybe they needed to be bigger. I also did not fertilize at full strength, but I do think the one that's completely dying got a bit more than the others. I'll re-pot and prune and hope for the best!
Are we talking about Above and Beyond or Above All? I believe they are both new climbers coming out this year.
Above and Beyond appears to be a pale apricot that blooms in large clusters of small flowers being handled by Bailey Nurseries.
Above All seems to be a large flowered orange blend handled by Weeks.
I am confused because the pictures above look like Above All and not Above and Beyond.
That's the problem with buying from any of the big box stores. They get the roses in earlier than you can plant and they get no care so they don't last long. If you catch them when they first come in grab what you want right away and get them home so you can keep them watered. If it's too early to put them out find a dark spot in a garage or shed and keep them there but do water them or they'll dry out and die. I did like some of the roses they got in the first couple of years. They weren't just the baggy roses but boxed in peat pots so there was some soil around the roots. They also had some tree roses and that's where I got my Baby Blanket standard. But as I said earlier, the last few years they only got a handful of Knock Outs in and last year I don't remember even seeing those. My guess is they took a loss on all the ones that died in the store because they brought them in too soon to plant around here so they stopped carrying them.
I forgot to mention the bareroot roses I purchased locally last year: Sally Holmes, America Cl, Tiffany and Don Juan, they all got winter killed pretty bad, almost to the ground. I thinkJoseph's Coat is totally gone. Out of 6 Americ Cl, only one still alive. Has anyone grow Sally Holmes in zone 5-6? I set up two 12-13' towers for 2 Sally Holmes, are they going to make it (to cover the towers)?
Sorry to hear that Jackie. Not a Knock Out Fairy, I just love them. :-) it had a good reason to land in your garden at the first place, if it doesn't work out for your garden, give it to a friend who has a sunny spot, I am sure it will be much happier to be under the sun.. :-) All my Knock Out roses get about 5-6 hours sun. Good luck.
Hello Ken,
I live in PSL, gardening here is different than up north and I very much appreciate your expertise on Florida and roses. I won't be able to dig anymore, I had to have my landscaper do that but, would it be possible to add pine mulch to the soil about 18 inches down instead? I have pine needles from trees in my yard that I curse every year, haha, but, I put them at the base of the trees and have raised beds around them with what you could call, pine needle compost.
I put garden soil and organic manure compost/soil mix in the trenches, this is a photo of the soil I had in there before I covered just the first inch or so with the sand that was dug out.
And may I ask, have you ever used Epsom salt and/or bone meal when planting bare root at first in the soil? I have read the sandy soil could use some magnesium, I put it around my palm trees and they like it. I'm working on getting my yard landscaped and as nice as I can on my budget and roses always make a yard more beautiful!
The planter on the left has the roses in the soil/compost.
Thank you again!
Lisa
I know! I didn't NEED anymore but the SALE! I got Blueberry Hill, Westerland, and Cassie. Couldn't pass it up, ordered gallon size except for Cassie as was out of stock. Had Lyda in my cart and took it out, feeling guilty about the $$ and wasn't sure if I loved the shape of the bloom, but wanted a shade bloomer.... Maybe next year! Love the hydrangeas too :)
Patty I agree with you there. Oh I have not grown Bobo before, it's adorable. Looks like one of the local nurseries I shop at carries them. Might have to pick one up. Hard for me to turn down a hydrangea that stays on the smaller side! Thanks for the suggestion.
Dingo - that is so funny that you got Blueberry Hill... I have put that one in my cart so many times on HR and then I take it out last second. It's such a beautiful rose. Hope you'll report back and let us know how it does for you!
I agree... something that blooms constantly in shade would be impressive! Can't go wrong with a little of both roses & hydrangeas. Well no, a lot of both is what I should say. :P
She is listed as Guinevere on the floribunda list on Roses Unlimited's website.
floribunda list at Roses Unlimited
ok, I promised myself I was going to let my roses get through their leap year this year and see where I landed before purchasing any more. I may have to break that promise for this rose....
PLEASE post photos when you get blooms! She is gorgeous!