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Are we talking about Above and Beyond or Above All? I believe they are both new climbers coming out this year.
Above and Beyond appears to be a pale apricot that blooms in large clusters of small flowers being handled by Bailey Nurseries.
Above All seems to be a large flowered orange blend handled by Weeks.
I am confused because the pictures above look like Above All and not Above and Beyond.
That's the problem with buying from any of the big box stores. They get the roses in earlier than you can plant and they get no care so they don't last long. If you catch them when they first come in grab what you want right away and get them home so you can keep them watered. If it's too early to put them out find a dark spot in a garage or shed and keep them there but do water them or they'll dry out and die. I did like some of the roses they got in the first couple of years. They weren't just the baggy roses but boxed in peat pots so there was some soil around the roots. They also had some tree roses and that's where I got my Baby Blanket standard. But as I said earlier, the last few years they only got a handful of Knock Outs in and last year I don't remember even seeing those. My guess is they took a loss on all the ones that died in the store because they brought them in too soon to plant around here so they stopped carrying them.
I forgot to mention the bareroot roses I purchased locally last year: Sally Holmes, America Cl, Tiffany and Don Juan, they all got winter killed pretty bad, almost to the ground. I thinkJoseph's Coat is totally gone. Out of 6 Americ Cl, only one still alive. Has anyone grow Sally Holmes in zone 5-6? I set up two 12-13' towers for 2 Sally Holmes, are they going to make it (to cover the towers)?
Sorry to hear that Jackie. Not a Knock Out Fairy, I just love them. :-) it had a good reason to land in your garden at the first place, if it doesn't work out for your garden, give it to a friend who has a sunny spot, I am sure it will be much happier to be under the sun.. :-) All my Knock Out roses get about 5-6 hours sun. Good luck.
Hello Ken,
I live in PSL, gardening here is different than up north and I very much appreciate your expertise on Florida and roses. I won't be able to dig anymore, I had to have my landscaper do that but, would it be possible to add pine mulch to the soil about 18 inches down instead? I have pine needles from trees in my yard that I curse every year, haha, but, I put them at the base of the trees and have raised beds around them with what you could call, pine needle compost.
I put garden soil and organic manure compost/soil mix in the trenches, this is a photo of the soil I had in there before I covered just the first inch or so with the sand that was dug out.
And may I ask, have you ever used Epsom salt and/or bone meal when planting bare root at first in the soil? I have read the sandy soil could use some magnesium, I put it around my palm trees and they like it. I'm working on getting my yard landscaped and as nice as I can on my budget and roses always make a yard more beautiful!
The planter on the left has the roses in the soil/compost.
Thank you again!
Lisa
I know! I didn't NEED anymore but the SALE! I got Blueberry Hill, Westerland, and Cassie. Couldn't pass it up, ordered gallon size except for Cassie as was out of stock. Had Lyda in my cart and took it out, feeling guilty about the $$ and wasn't sure if I loved the shape of the bloom, but wanted a shade bloomer.... Maybe next year! Love the hydrangeas too :)
Patty I agree with you there. Oh I have not grown Bobo before, it's adorable. Looks like one of the local nurseries I shop at carries them. Might have to pick one up. Hard for me to turn down a hydrangea that stays on the smaller side! Thanks for the suggestion.
Dingo - that is so funny that you got Blueberry Hill... I have put that one in my cart so many times on HR and then I take it out last second. It's such a beautiful rose. Hope you'll report back and let us know how it does for you!
I agree... something that blooms constantly in shade would be impressive! Can't go wrong with a little of both roses & hydrangeas. Well no, a lot of both is what I should say. :P
Oh my goodness, in our August heat it would take three hours every day to water all those pots. When we hit 100 degrees daily watering is necessary. This is the first year I will be doing pot gardening and I know I have to limit my pot numbers because of the watering requirements and yes, today's purchases caused me to exceed that limit so I'm through buying. No more roses this year! I on the other hand call my collection pot paradise.
It is indeed dangerous. I've made two trips this year and will be going back mid April. The rose gardens will be in full flush then and it is a must see. Of course it is absolutely imperative to turn into Chamblee's. It would be a travesty if you didn't make that stop. The good thing is my dear husband will be visiting the gardens with me that trip and he will encourage me to buy more than I would probably get for myself!
I have to resurrect this thread again. I found one of those poms and am going to be planting it in the front between me and my neighbor. I think it will be beautiful I did get a variety that has salmon double flowers with a cream edging. Should be very pretty and I am so excited! Would have never known about this tree without the kind folks on this forum! If it gets here in time, the tree should go in on Saturday. YEA!
I have 20 rose bushes; 8 are HT. In March and April, most of the HT get rust, mildew,white flies and Aphids. My plan is to feed the 8 HT with 3 in 1 for two months, everything else regular rose food. If I didn't have the issues, I wouldn't use the product. I tried spot spraying with a squeeze bottle with insecticide or fungicide. When I had 200 roses, I sprayed with an atomist electric sprayer and used a gas mask. 3 in 1 is expensive but I won't be using a lot. My physical abilities are limited and I wanted to be able to look at something beautiful.
Until I planted the 8 HT, I hadn't had any for 25 years. The other roses were only watered and fertilized. I couldn't have HT because of the deer. I wanted to have blooms for most of the season and modern roses are the way to go. They are all caged. I really enjoy my OG roses, but their blooming is sporadic. The approach I am using works for me.
If they were mine, I would GENTLY, trying not to disturb what few roots the poor things still have, transplant them all into MUCH BIGGER clay pots. Then I would cut the roses down by about half - the damaged roots cannot support so much top growth. The top growth will grow back if you give the roots a chance to grow first. NO FOOD, NO POISONS, just water. They must be put outside in the sun, without any saucer under the pot (the roots will rot otherwise), so it can drain. Then just leave them completely alone except to make sure the soil stays moist (not sopping). They should "do nothing" for about a month, while they are growing roots you cannot see. Then if they have survived, they will start to put out some leaves. That is when you can feed them, but only half strength from the directions. Rose food only, no "2 in 1", or "3 in 1" products. Good luck!
Jackie
Hello everyone, thank you for the comments. I did put drain holes on the bottom, but maybe they needed to be bigger. I also did not fertilize at full strength, but I do think the one that's completely dying got a bit more than the others. I'll re-pot and prune and hope for the best!