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It is indeed dangerous. I've made two trips this year and will be going back mid April. The rose gardens will be in full flush then and it is a must see. Of course it is absolutely imperative to turn into Chamblee's. It would be a travesty if you didn't make that stop. The good thing is my dear husband will be visiting the gardens with me that trip and he will encourage me to buy more than I would probably get for myself!
I have to resurrect this thread again. I found one of those poms and am going to be planting it in the front between me and my neighbor. I think it will be beautiful I did get a variety that has salmon double flowers with a cream edging. Should be very pretty and I am so excited! Would have never known about this tree without the kind folks on this forum! If it gets here in time, the tree should go in on Saturday. YEA!
I have 20 rose bushes; 8 are HT. In March and April, most of the HT get rust, mildew,white flies and Aphids. My plan is to feed the 8 HT with 3 in 1 for two months, everything else regular rose food. If I didn't have the issues, I wouldn't use the product. I tried spot spraying with a squeeze bottle with insecticide or fungicide. When I had 200 roses, I sprayed with an atomist electric sprayer and used a gas mask. 3 in 1 is expensive but I won't be using a lot. My physical abilities are limited and I wanted to be able to look at something beautiful.
Until I planted the 8 HT, I hadn't had any for 25 years. The other roses were only watered and fertilized. I couldn't have HT because of the deer. I wanted to have blooms for most of the season and modern roses are the way to go. They are all caged. I really enjoy my OG roses, but their blooming is sporadic. The approach I am using works for me.
..I think, if I lived in Palm Springs, and I probably wouldn't say 'no' from Nov-March... then I'd want something other than Austin's, which I can grow quite happily over here...
...I don't know...maybe 'Marechal Niel'...'clg. Lady Hillingdon'... 'Alexander Hill Grey'....?
I know you're right, Patty, and in most winters I will have some surviving canes. What I need to know is that in those "not most" winters the plant itself will survive. And thanks for the tip on Northland. I had forgotten about them and need to go peruse their catalog!
Yes, Mad, I know you're right. Explorers, Explorers, Explorers...but none of them really float my boat as far as blooms are concerned. Most of them are rather ho hum looking. I want big luscious showy blooms!
Thanks, Sara, good info from a kindred zoner! I will check out Celeste's roses.
OK, Kate, will take a look at Ghislaine de Feligonde!
Don Juan does pretty well in the heat, but the reflected heat off that patio in the summer will be an issue. Not sure what you can do to solve that.
Our Don Juan is every old and on Doc Huey, he does manage to reach 7 or 8 feet, but stops shortly after that. Maybe if he got more water he would grow more? or maybe not. He is in the ground, near the hose bib and under a lot of mulch.
It looks like Rosa Indica Major to me. Its Chinese name was something sounding like Fun Juan Lo (if you pronounce the J as 'Zh'). This rose was 'discovered' and brought over from China to the West in the early part of the 19th Century. It has had many names and its precise botanic origin is unclear. Being very tough and resilient to heat and drought - though not to cold - and being very easy to root, it has been much used as an understock in warm areas such as South Australia and (apparently) California. It is somewhat prone to mildew, but this doesn't seem to affect overall health if left untreated. It often swamps and then survives the grafted rose, so is a common sight in old neglected gardens here.
It blooms early in spring, with those lovely airy puffballs of ivory irregularly suffused or blotched with pale carmine pink, borne on those similarly airy, gracefully arching canes, for a few weeks only each year. It has been noted that if it were a repeat bloomer, it might rank among the great shrub roses. The scent, to my nose, was only faint.
Whether you want to keep it, and how you want to grow it, is pretty much up to you. I have seen it looking very pretty grown up and over a cottage garden arch. I love its natural fountain shape, however it may produce larger flowers if kept trimmed back. Or you could just take out the oldest, thickest canes at the base each year, immediately after flowering as Jeri and others have said (it doesn't usually set hips). This would keep it a bit smaller without losing its natural graceful shape. Espaliering it against the fence to keep it more 2-dimensional, would be very feasible, maybe still letting it keep its natural curves. If you have room to plant other things in front of it, it should make a nice glossy green background for most of the year, with its annual few weeks of glory to look forward to each spring.
I took mine out (it was here - a rootstock escape - when I bought this house) and I do still miss it...
Comtesse :¬)
Burlingarden - Congratulations! I agree that it is probably 'Rosa Indica Major', a rose which was found in China prior to 1811. If you go to the web site Help Me Find/roses, you will see many pictures of it. Also, you will see that it has 8-10 different names. This happens when roses are so nice & popular that they get re-named all over the many places where they grow. Comtessedelacouche and others above give good advice about pruning it, GENTLY or not at all, and only after it finishes blooming. Tying it up to your fence or on some sort of trellis is also a good idea. Such a beautiful rose!
Jackie
Thanks for all the advice. As it happens I'm only moving it a few inches, but to a deeper space and a bit more sun (shade from a nearby bush means a few inches matter). I'll do my best to keep the rootball intact, the roots were very wide originally.
Will wait to fertilize till it comes back and try not to worry ; )
Btw Im in Northern CA, and have a feeling all 3 new roses are a bit too high. I hope the others could be fine with some soil piled up to the bud union.
Thanks!
It helps to move them towards evening or in cloudy weather which you probably wouldn't have now. Many people will provide shade while the rose recovers.That could be as simple as a lawn chair. Or shade cloth over a plant support. A product such as wilt proof works well.
I am a huge fan of Munstead Wood roses. I have a small row of them and couldn't be happier. Very fragrant. The color is pretty consistent although it tends to be darker at the end of the summer. They are susceptible to black spot, but I am not the most diligent person when it comes to spraying. It holds up well when it rains here in CT. 
Mustbnuts...I love your roses. How beautiful. You must have a lovely garden.
I'm going today to look at roses weather permitting. I'm hoping it doesn't rain all weekend so I can.plant on Monday. I work all weekend so that's a no go. I definitely want to try and pot roses as well. Alongside my walkway by my entrance. All sun most of the day. At least 6 hours.
I was a bit intimidated but you've all been so helpful and kind. I will be scouring the net for information and YouTube for how to's lol.
I really want a pretty garden!
Elizabeth, they may not be available locally, but take a look at the TAMU list of Earth-Kind Roses. http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/earthkindroses/cultivars/
Out of 250 carefree roses, 150-170 of them are Knock Out roses, I started with 100 of them, then added more for their fast repeat colors( they have 5 different colors). I also have about 250 old garden roses, ramblers, some of them I purchsed as rose bands, still small. I have never got infected from rose thorns, I live in a house hugged by thousands of blooms and also thousands of thorns. :-) I have been taking care of roses for about 8 years. I love them all. It's just people's taste in food, cars and scooter, motorcycles. I don't like Harleys, there are so many of them and everywhere, but I love Knock outs they are everywhere too, I grow them for their fast repeat colors. So far they're the fastest rebloomers in my garden. I will add more old garden roses and more other kind of carefree roses this year. Happy gardening everyone! :-) Cheers
Oh my goodness, in our August heat it would take three hours every day to water all those pots. When we hit 100 degrees daily watering is necessary. This is the first year I will be doing pot gardening and I know I have to limit my pot numbers because of the watering requirements and yes, today's purchases caused me to exceed that limit so I'm through buying. No more roses this year! I on the other hand call my collection pot paradise.
Thanks for mentioning it, I will wait for Home Depot/ Lowe's 2 gal. ones, much better than buying a rose band for $20. :-)