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Your Sharifa is beautiful! It sounds like Sharifa would be more compatible with LEH. I read that LEH also gets a little resentment in super hot weather and may slow down growth in the heat of summer. So the Sharifa and LEH could prob go into some afternoon shade here together.
I think I will put PAoK in full sun. I just need to figure out what else to plant by her now lol. I have them all in pots for now but am trying to figure out where to put the flower beds and roses according to their size and needs. I have lots of room and sun/shade possibilities so I want to get this as 'right' as possible the first time so I won't have to move stuff around later. I have more shade/dappled sun than straight sun areas close to the house but I do have a few areas of full sun. I have some super sunny areas but they are way out by the street (an acre away) so I want to plant closer to the house first so we can enjoy them. Too many huge oak and pine trees here (plus all their roots) grrr.
I ordered Princess Alexandra this year and she's just started budding. She took off rather quickly. Can't wait to see the blooms, although the buds look small. I hope they don't stay too tiny, as I'm hoping for big blooms. Sometimes bud size can be deceiving though.
Thanks, all! I did pull it back far, and it's a good thing I did. It was keeping things quite moist and it's been downright warm since that last cold night.
I think next year I'll probably put it on right before the super-cold nights and pull it back after them, just to be safe. I didn't put it on until we were solidly into winter, but the really bad nights were so few that I should probably not leave it on as many weeks as I did.
So far, I don't have more canker showing than normal, so that part is good!
Thanks for the info. I didn't realize she was so new. I think I will wait a bit to get her since I just got Julia Child. Jacqueline I do have a rose society about 35 miles away but they meet at night and I'd have to drive highway and I just don't drive highway at night anymore if I don't have to. I'll keep watching the site to see if anyone is posting updates.
Maybe you guys need to get a wolf/hybrid dog to patrol your yards. LOL
No, actually, that would be terrible to have to worry about deer damage. I've seen a squirrel or two move into the neighbourhood for the first time. I've read here that they like to take rose buds. Even if that happens, they can't be as bad as deer.
Carol
I have Solero V. & I like the color, a clear yellow but as nippstress says, "it fades". It is an ADR rose but last year it had a touch of BS in my garden but it seems to resist BS because the rose next to it had BS much worse as well as several other roses in my garden. The one habit it has that doesn't please me is that the bush tends to sprawl & open up in the center.
Solero Vigorosa is nice with good color and disease resistance, but it is still quite small (read "short") here. We'll see how it matures in the next two years.
Purple Rain may be moving out of my garden. Yes, it is healthy and a good bloomer but the color is not as it was described at all...and I do not like it one bit. The flowers are small clusters of a very odd shade of pink. Bleah! I would say that unless you've seen it in person and just adore it, don't waste your money experimenting on it.
Here it is, half-leafed out after a prune this year down to 3x3. Perhaps this shows the structure for you. As usual, blooming already. It would look fab for you underplanted with Geranium 'Rozanne'.
Keep in mind I never did anything but deadhead the first 5 years.
I had to look up whether my favorite 'heavy' insecticide kills leafhoppers, and it does. It's spinosad, so it's less toxic than Sevin. OTOH, it's still deadly to bees when wet, so make sure to spray only when the bees are in for the night. After it dries, it doesn't kill the bees! Don't spray it directly on beneficials and it won't kill them either (unless any chew leaves).
I do use Sevin for true bugs that really need killing, though. Spinosad isn't good on most of them, unfortunately.
My goodness! It was my first time watching a motorcycle race, I got goosebumps the whole time! I have never seen any bikes going that fast, more than 200mph at least. I hope all the riders dropped their bikes in the turns were ok, still alive, one of them went down the hill.....if I knew them I'd tell them "don't do it" many many times. I like their riding gears.
That's a beautiful island, it would be lovely to ride around (45-60mph), pack a picnic lunch...... there are not many scooters here, I saw less than 10 scooters on the road in my town last summer, so I ride with motorcycles. :-) Ride safe!
Cheers,
Summer
FWIW, Patty, I have grown Belinda's Dream for about 7 years here in zone 5, in the cold zone 4 parts of my yard, and she's resolutely hardy and pretty BS resistant. She's in part shade too, so I don't get the jaw-dropping profusion of bloom she shows elsewhere, but she's definitely a keeper and hardy for me. I don't think your conditions in IL should be that much different than here in NE, so I'd say go for it.
Cynthia
Gardenbug, Here are a couple of sites about using alfalfa in the garden, i bought a bag of alfalfa cubes and put a couple of cups in a big bucket and let sit for about a week before straining out the tea. Be careful about putting much alfalfa in the soil though as it really heats up, found that out the hard way!
http://learningandyearning.com/10-benefits-of-using-alfalfa-in-your-garden
http://www.rose.org/rose-care-articles/the-value-of-alfalfa/
Meridith, those three roses you mentioned are truly beautiful.
I just saw a Pink Eden in one of the catalogs I got a few weeks ago--maybe White Flower Farm? They are also online, so you might check there. The Pink Eden is all-over solid and bright pink, so would contrast in color nicely with the white Eden. Supposedly Pink Eden otherwise has traits very similar to white Eden. I haven't grown the pink one, so can't say from first-hand experience, but as you know, white Eden is a wonderful climber.
Kate
I once clambered about in a pretty undignified manner in a jungle of all four of the basic Banksiaes - the white single and double, and yellow single and double - in order to subject them all to a thorough sniffing.... I was thinking at the time it might be a good substitute for violet essential oil, since the real one dissipates very quickly. So I wanted to know whether they really did smell of violets and which was the strongest scented. I concluded that some of them at least did indeed smell delightfully (though not super-strongly) of violets, and I did manage to pick a 'winner' - but I've forgotten now which it was.... and that wonderful jungle is no more.
I may be mistaken, but aren't the petals of the single white pictured in Virginia's link just a little narrower than those of the regular R Banksiae normalis?
Re 'Rosa Trepadora'; I found it interesting that as well as simply translating as any 'climbing/clambering plant', the word 'trepadora' could also be used to denote a 'social climber', with some suggestion of climbing (the 'trep' part) over others to get at the gold/money (a d'ora?)... Maybe rather appropriate in this case...
Comtesse :¬)
Comtesse, you make me smile at the thought of you sniffing at four Banksias in succession... especially since I've had visions of trying that myself. I have rooted cuttings of R. banksia lutea (what old-timers in this area call 'Lady Banksia'), and R. banksia alba, though they are pretty small still. This new plant should- if the description is accurate- bring me up to a Banksia trio, but I guess I'll need a 'Purezza' or some other sort to get to a quartet.
I'm supposing that this rose was a seedling of 'normalis' as Kim says, and possibly one that is a result of an Italian tradition of selecting for fragrance and/or disease resistance? Maybe I'm reading too much between the lines there.
The description of 'Snowflake' implies that only well-established plants will flower, so I'm not expecting flowers anytime soon, but if I do get some, i'll report back.
Virginia
Thanks Comtesse, I looked into Mme Alfred Carriere and she looks perfect!
It looks like several folks grow her in my general area, so I feel hopeful she will do well and grow to the size I am looking for. I am thrilled with the bonus of a strong fragrance.
Roses Unlimited carries it so I am adding her to my order today.
I may have to find a place for Francois Juranville, tho, possibly a tree in the back yard to ramble on, he is just too pretty ...
Thanks for the great options.
Adrianne
I would like to know how big this rose grows down south. Mine is in a pot - cant decide where to plant it - I understand it gets really big - anyone have any information on this?
Judith
Every thing I've read so far has this rose being quite large down south. Paul Zimmermon has a photo on line of the one he lost to rrv. It looked to be about 6'h x8 or 10' wide. Wish Help Me Find had comments from everyone on growth and other goodies about their roses. My photos on aren't that good on HMF but I now add a comment about growth and health in my garden. Hoping it may help someone decide if they wish to plant a variety.
For what's worth Paul said he has had about a 50% survival rate on rrv infections when he can catches it early while the infections is showing high up on one cane by removing the cane. This is good to hear and also how I saved one rose.
subk3 thanks for the Ivors Rose suggestion.
Thanks every one for your help it is appreciated.