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One of my favorite pictures of Jadis. I know she is not on the list, but she is beautiful and fragrant. her only issue was losing leaves at the bottom, so I always planted something shorted in front of her. I would prune her back to about 2.5 ft and she would grow to 6 or 7 feet tall by end of summer 
PP and Tiffany both get blackspot here in Asheville, and I'm pretty sure they would in Houston, which also has severe disease pressure. Earth Song is resistant here and in most gardens, but I can't promise that it will be for you.
The way ES spreads is apparently not by root suckers but by canes that come out sideways from the crown before turning up. Double Delight also does that. It is easy to remove these if you don't want them, or turn them into new plants. I don't consider ES invasive.
Clay soil is fine for roses. Just dig in some compost or manure over the whole area. A top dressing of coffee grounds and a good mulch will improve the soil texture over the years. Don't step on or dig the clay when it is wet.
If it's just the tip leave it but keep an eye on it because often times that will begin to travel down the cane. Sometimes if the cane had a bloom at the tip a short section will die back where that bloom was cut off but the rest of the cane will be OK. If there is a brown stripe down one side of the cane it's over. It will eventually all turn black and dry up. If it's at the bottom where the soil line is it's already toast. It's probably rotted below the soil level.
Well I figure I should give an update, mostly because the in-the-moment decision making and the nature of learning what to expect and how to behave and everything else that comes with experience was a useful lesson for me that may benefit others.
So a quick summation.
I have had about a 10% success rate on my first flurry of cuttings using the burrito method. Considering all the places I did things "wrong" as I went along I actually consider it a success. I didn't properly go through my received cuttings to make cuts at budding points so I had tips far away from where the plant would naturally send them, occasional missed watering, over attentive watering, and such were all mistakes along the way.
The decision to stick many of the calloused cuttings in the dirt with still a month or 2 of questionable weather wasn't so dreadful as I originally thought. More plants have started to stir and awake, granted some are just now putting out their first leaves, but point being, that when I stuck them outside it was more of a "may as well see, and pull out dead sticks when weeding later," instead of just tossing them out when I got tired of potting up my mess of cuttings. It did snow a couple times after I planted them outside, and we definitely had some freeze/thaw cycles. More than I was obviously hoping for when I planted them.
I moved some of my leafed out cuttings to the garden. Where 2 promptly died, and 4 are still very slowly growing. The plants are still tiny. The couple I have in the house will be going outside soon. I found a slight spider-mite infestation on one of the few I have indoors so I figure it is time to let natures little bug eaters help me take care of the issue.
I will say that a couple of the plants were much more likely to root than others. Heirloom and Mr. Lincoln putting out 3x more plants than the other successful varieties, and of course some I didn't get any to stick. However, those 2 were among the ones I wanted the most, and now that I have them, I have that intense satisfaction. I actually bought an heirloom from Walmart anyway because it was discounted to $6 and was a gallon plant in good condition, just with spent blooms.
I doubt that I will get any flowers from these tiny little specimen this year. I suspect, that in future, I will opt to purchase my initial plants and then take cuttings from those for gifts, back ups and filling out beds. Thanks everyone so much for the help so far in my rose obsession.
Received a miniflora from them today. Excellent shipping box and plant. It is my second order from them and I am happy with both orders. I really like the way they added a stick in the container this time to help the long branches from breaking off during shipment. Will buy from them again.
For me, the colder it is, the darker the flowers. The older the flower, the more smoky and blue it gets. The fragrance is out of this world strong. This is the rose with the most intense fragrance I have ever smelled. That's why I have 4 of these beauties. Between them I can enjoy these lovely fragrant flowers everyday of the flowering season. :)
To me, it's not about quantity, but quality. I want to utilize my time, efforts, and money on a rose I know I will love. Especially when there's so many great ones out there I want to try. As your roses grow, and you start to accumulate a few more here and there, lack of space makes you become more discerning.
Here's the other pink one that i don't know the name of either. Pretty form, but I really didn't need another pink that color. Sigh.
It was an impulse buy, and just for the Paul Neyron, I'm pretty ok. Not that I'm endorsing the place, but if they do fulfill the 1 year replacement thing, then I wouldn't mind trying three or four more from them. The cost is so prohibitive shipping to Hawaii, and the selections available on island are not very inspiring, so if I can score on an unusual color (like Paradise or Pompei), I'll be happy. I also don't have the patience for own root plants.
Jackie and Beth thank you for your opinions. I didn't think it was Peach Drift thought I'd check thou. I did go back and get to more of them. If any one should recognize the rose I'm open to suggestions. The flowers are the same size as Coral Drift. The leaves are very glossy. Now I just hope that it's very disease . They had a tree form as well. Its own root but forgot to check the tree.
Rogue Valley recommends potting in soil so the rose, when transplanted to the garden, doesn't have to negotiate a sharp horizon between the stuff in its rootball and the garden soil. In all-organic potting mix, the fleshy roots develop little or none and the pot fills up with feeder roots. They may be reluctant to reach outside the organic rootball. Most gardeners in Britain and Europe use a potting soil with around 50% real soil even for permanent pot culture. Therefore Al's obsession with super-fast drainage isn't necessarily well founded.
However, potting mix works fine for roses too. A lot of things that rose gardeners claim are critical, really aren't critical. Arguments continue because both methods produce good results.
Remember a rose bush can only take up so many nutrients at one time. If it does not have many leaves than a much smaller dose would be used... I actually stunted the growth of a couple smaller double KO's one year from giving them to much fertilizer by accident...
Sometimes less is more....
