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Jackie and Beth thank you for your opinions. I didn't think it was Peach Drift thought I'd check thou. I did go back and get to more of them. If any one should recognize the rose I'm open to suggestions. The flowers are the same size as Coral Drift. The leaves are very glossy. Now I just hope that it's very disease . They had a tree form as well. Its own root but forgot to check the tree.
Rogue Valley recommends potting in soil so the rose, when transplanted to the garden, doesn't have to negotiate a sharp horizon between the stuff in its rootball and the garden soil. In all-organic potting mix, the fleshy roots develop little or none and the pot fills up with feeder roots. They may be reluctant to reach outside the organic rootball. Most gardeners in Britain and Europe use a potting soil with around 50% real soil even for permanent pot culture. Therefore Al's obsession with super-fast drainage isn't necessarily well founded.
However, potting mix works fine for roses too. A lot of things that rose gardeners claim are critical, really aren't critical. Arguments continue because both methods produce good results.
Remember a rose bush can only take up so many nutrients at one time. If it does not have many leaves than a much smaller dose would be used... I actually stunted the growth of a couple smaller double KO's one year from giving them to much fertilizer by accident...
Sometimes less is more....
For me, Orchid Masterpiece is the one that got away. Ten years ago I found the most magnificent specimen with its roots in a plastic bag. Seven of the healtiest canes I've ever seen on a climber. Not anything wrong. Until I grabbed the plastic enclosed roots and the bag was nearly empty. I could feel one woody root. And not much else.
So, having learned on some Don Juans that I should have left at Home Depot years earlier, I walked away from Orchid Masterpiece.
If I were to try to grow it, I'd try to give it growing conditions like a playa lake in California...very sandy loam and alkaline conditions (and flood it with water every so often) because that plant that got way had gotten that big in two years of field growth in those conditions.
I can't say my Climbing Orchid Masterpiece came in good shape in the bag but I was able to pot it up, feed it and nurture it to get it to "grow up." So now I'm quite dissappointed in the lack of blooms on a bush that is supposed to bloom on new wood, is 4 years old at this point, showed pretty good cane hardiness for where I planted it (I planted it against a South East corner wall so it is probably zone 7 in there) and is supposed to at least have a good spring flush. Well, it will probably meet the good old shovel this weekend.
Thank you, everyone. I like the flower color. True reds are my favorites. Sylvia, you are so right-I have 6 Don Juans climbers on arbors around our fishpond. They are baby plants, I just saw a few blooms last year-I can hardly wait until they come into their own. Oklahoma would be a nice one to have. I have yet to order any roses-everything I have has been purchased locally, and I have never seen it available here.
I said it before that not only does a good rose depends on the individual vigor of the plant but also on where you plant it and the general climate zone hence micro and macro climate. The only rose that I have planted twice is Peace. I remember the first Peace I planted which was a strong plant with many thick canes was bs magnet and died after the first winter. I first thought it wasn't the right plant for my zone. A couple years later, I decided to grow in a different area and this time, it was a strong plant and a bloom machine. I had it for three years. Unfortunately I forgot to protect it last winter and so far does not have any canes or buds yet. I will wait and see what happens. It still has green colour near the crown and I am hopeful. However, even if it does survive, it may not be as vigorous this year.
Denisemill, yes, Bolero is a beauty! When I saw it I had to have it even though I truly, truly have NO space. I'll have to think about it a bit, but it's going to get planted somewhere I can see it frequently. No pot ghetto inhabtant, this one!
Diane, the more interesting varieties have started coming in this past week in our area. Some of what I've noticed: Over the Moon, Julio Iglesias, Apricot Candy, Francis Meilland, Elle, Pope John Paul II, Easter Basket, Intrigue, Passionate Kisses, Tahitian Treasure, Mercury Rising, Jump for Joy, Adobe Sunset, Mardi Gras, Miss Congeniality, Brandy, and oldies but goodies like Double Delight and Tiffany. There were other interesting varieties at the 3 HDs I checked out, but I honestly can't remember them. I made written notes on the ones above.
I think they will be fine the way your describe your plans. Since they will be in an open trailer, I would check them for needing water along the way - just the wind from driving will be very drying, and it is hot in July. I would wrap them loosely in burlap, to protect them from the sun. If you water them if they need it every morning, they should be OK.
How many roses are you moving? After you get there, don't plant them immediately, just take off the burlap & put them in partial shade for a few days and give them adequate water, and let them rest for a bit.
Of course, you may have some roses which love the West Coast, but will not love Arkansas. You will learn about that after a season or two. Good luck!
Jackie
Rabains - I think Tiffany and Bewitched eventually end up being around the same height. Like Diane stated, they are both "old timers," but they are good roses. There are lots of very good pinks, another older one I used to have that is a very good and dependable bloomer is Queen Elizabeth, it gets rather tall. Some newer varieties that I planted this year but haven't bloomed yet are Beverly, Memorial Day and Frederic Mistral. I am anxious to see how they do. Maybe others will give some other good suggestions, I don't think there's a shortage of good pink roses.
To me, it's not about quantity, but quality. I want to utilize my time, efforts, and money on a rose I know I will love. Especially when there's so many great ones out there I want to try. As your roses grow, and you start to accumulate a few more here and there, lack of space makes you become more discerning.
Here's the other pink one that i don't know the name of either. Pretty form, but I really didn't need another pink that color. Sigh.
It was an impulse buy, and just for the Paul Neyron, I'm pretty ok. Not that I'm endorsing the place, but if they do fulfill the 1 year replacement thing, then I wouldn't mind trying three or four more from them. The cost is so prohibitive shipping to Hawaii, and the selections available on island are not very inspiring, so if I can score on an unusual color (like Paradise or Pompei), I'll be happy. I also don't have the patience for own root plants.