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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Do you seal your pruning cuts. If not look for a round hole any where the rose was pruned. If you find a hole, something put there larvae in there. Even leaf cutter bees will lay larvae in cut stems.They eat their way down where they over winter. When you see a hole in spring before you prune for the season. Cut till you see no hole. Then cut the cane in half just above that and you can see the tiny black developing bee larvae. Of course there are many types of bore insects that can affect roses.

Should that cane start to wilt the sooner you cut the better as if something is in their it will continue to munch it's way down. If only the flower or bud is wilting than something laid eggs in it. Take them off and discard in garbage. You would not want the eggs to develop.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2015 at 9:42AM Thanked by nickjoseph
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Usually he type of borer that causes wilting tips is not the type that drills nursery chambers in cut cane ends. The latter is the Small Carpenter Bee. I tolerate these without any major problems. One borer that drills way down the cane after starting near the tip is the Raspberry Stem Sawfly, but I don't notice them before July.

See the excellent Baldo Villegas page for his discussion of borers.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2015 at 10:21AM
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rouge21_gw(5)

I planted *7* of them in the past month!

    Bookmark     June 18, 2015 at 8:44AM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

I could only find one but I'm happy.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2015 at 9:53AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

A common problem with rugosa roses in the North is Rose Stem Girdler. They kill whole canes by tunneling under the bark in a swollen area. Look for these canes in mid to late summer, cut below the swollen area, and bag or burn it. Otherwise the larvae survive winter and become adults that lay more eggs the following season.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 9:23AM Thanked by victoria321
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Where is the OP?

    Bookmark     June 18, 2015 at 9:09AM
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countrygirl_sc, elev 1016(7a SC)

ooh, I like those.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 7:17PM
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allencla

I fill the very bottom of my big pots with old plastic water bottles before putting in potting mix and plants...it helps improve the drainage and makes them lighter to drag around when I need to move them into the garage for winter and what not.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2015 at 7:23AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Yes, I think you have to be a member on HMF to us the private messaging. I would encourage you to join because it's well worth it.

Dave really needs to get his roses out there. I looked at all his plants listed at HMF and they were all beautiful! Lots of them are stripes and have great form!

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 4:12PM
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rosecanadian

Oh my goodness!!! How can that rose NOT be out in commerce!!! It's exquisite!!!

I also decided (just now) to go look at his other roses (never thought about it until I read above). They're GORGEOUS!!!!!!! I can't believe he's not selling his roses. If those roses can't get into commerce, then nothing can.

Carol

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 10:57PM
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Joe Moose, Zone 9A

SoFL: The seedlings sure have Bonica's vigor. I thought they were goners.
Patty: I hope so! Here's praying that they'll bud soon. :D

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 4:47PM
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rosecanadian

Well done!! It's so rewarding when our roses listen to us and grow! :)

They look wonderful!

Carol

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 10:55PM
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the_bustopher z6 MO

How about Kleopatra?

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 8:57PM
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rosecanadian

Wow!!! Pat, your Gina and George look AMAZING!!! I have Gina (in a pot) - she's great, but not as large as yours. Wonderful!!

Carol

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 10:44PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Great shots!

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 6:16PM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

I found these photographs of the Huntington on Hoov's blog: Huntington April 13, 2015. You have to scroll down until you get to the April 13, 2015 post. Thanks to Lynn and Hoov, I'm starting to appreciate those distance shots. They are quite something.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 8:35PM
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ozmelodye(Z10 S-E Australia)

It could be Ivory Fashion.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 6:26PM Thanked by Dingo2001 - Z5 Chicagoland
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Dingo2001 - Z5 Chicagoland(5)

Do you think it could be First Class (Class Act)?

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.1214.3&tab=1

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 8:21PM
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seil zone 6b MI

If it's been in the same pot for 10 years then I think it probably needs to be root pruned and new soil. Even in zone 5 with a short season that's a long time in the same pot. I'm sure it's root bound and the soil is probably completely depleted. Even with fertilizing you need to refresh the soil now and again.

1 Like    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 4:43PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

What Seil said.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 5:25PM
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ratdogheads(5b NH)

I guess at least 3' wide. Maybe you could place 2 or more narrow panels together. The more space you have to train the canes horizontally the better, because that will encourage lateral growth and more bloom.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 2:03AM Thanked by Donna R zone 6a
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Donna R zone 6a

Thank you, ratdogheads-that helps me a lot. :-)

1 Like    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 5:16PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Thanks for sharing! Accept for the first and last ones they pretty much look like single shrub roses A/K/A KOs.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 4:18PM
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roseseek(9)

I can't find the memory stick the scans are on (I moved), and the ARS annuals are boxed in the garage, but in the seventies or eighties, there were at least two articles in the American Rose Annuals about the use of ground pine bark cleaning root knot nematodes from the soil. It was used both as an amendment, mixed in the soil as well as a mulch. Previously infected soils and plants were found to be "cleaned" of the infestation simply due to the cleansing action of the pine bark. You might consider using it if it's locally available in your area. You might also search this forum for the scans as I am sure I have posted them within the past two years when the nematode question was raised previously. Good luck.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 11:25AM
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SoFL Rose z10

Oh yeah, i forgot about the french marigolds. They are ridiculously easy to grow from seed (and fast to bloom) so if you can't find them at your local nursery seeds will be the way to go. Also the pine thing Roseseek mentions. Thats why I said to mulch heavily with pine based mulch in the first reply. I should have clarified that pine mulch repels them.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 12:03PM
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ferreira_candice

Are you able to see the rose slugs? I couldn't find any. So I sprayed hard with the hose any way. Hope that takes care of it.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 10:29AM
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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

They are small and sneaky. :-)

They are tiny green worms, hard to see, but they are/were there.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 10:45AM
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30sreno

you might give it a try. I also drain the water out of the self-watering pots because my roses weren't big enough when I re-potted them to have their roots reach that far and I didn't want to rot the roots with soil that is too moist. If you plant something in a pot that is too big where there is a lot of soil around the roots, it is possible to keep the soil too moist for the amount of roots and then you will end up with root rot. Not good. Suggest you test your soil before watering - stick a finger in the soil - if soil sticks to your finger, it's moist enough. If it's dry, you'll be able to tell.

1 Like    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 12:45PM Thanked by Ivan Ferdous
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Ivan Ferdous

I want to thank you all for helping me so much. Today I see a new bud and also new growth I'm so happy and excited!

    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 9:48AM
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