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FM is one of the few roses that took 3 years to perform really well in my garden. The first year it mildewed a lot. Second year it grew into a tree sized monster 10 x 10 x 6 feet. I hacked it down to 2 feet in winter like any other HT. 3rd year on-wards he has been blooming his head off! Always in flower and the fragrance intensified over time. One of my absolute favourite roses. You can cut 2 dozens of long stem roses from it every week in hot weather, and a few flowers every week in cool weather. He is now very disease resistant. Also he is nearly thornless! p.s My FM has no more thrip problems than any other roses. The thrip magnets in my garden are: Fragrant Plum, Chartreuse de Parme, Honey Bouquet, Memorial Day and Munstead Wood. My FM:
Thanks guys and gals! The rose is amazing and I confess I adore it as it seems to glow even in full sun. I've always been attracted to roses with interesting names and names are a part of the romance of the plants for me.
Pope John Paul II was a religious leader whom I greatly admired along with Mother Theresa, Dr. M. L. King Jr., and the Rev. Billy Graham, so when I saw pictures of PJPII, I simply had to have it as it is a fine tribute to the late Pontiff.
Jack
When I bought my PJPII from Nelson's earlier this year Jean warned me about the same. It's simply amazing how these little sticks grow quickly. I had to beg for a Fragrant Cloud that was in a similar condition. Both are now huge and quickly getting bigger.
Enjoy your rose bush! The flowers are beautiful.
Thanks for the info! A great news for all the roseaholics. I don't know if I still have room left, but it doesn't hurt to look. :-) I got my list ready to roll: Duchesse de Rohan, Gloire de Mousseux, Rosarium Uetersen, Souvenir De la Malmaison Climber, Variegata di Bologna, Yolande d' Aragon.
It really depends on your soil I would think. I wouldn't even call decomposed granite soil, but that's what I have. Because of that I add bagged soil and compost before planting. I then mulch it heavily so the sun doesn't dry out the soil. Having said that, most roses aren't doing very well this year, but I blame the drought for that. Roses need rain and that's all there is to it. Crazy temperature swings this spring also didn't help.
Or if you live in central Florida with nematodes. I amend my entire bed, but I also dig a large planting hole and entirely replace the sand with my own planting mix. I'm hoping the nematodes can't "swim" through it like they do sand. I also top dress with manure, but more often.
My roses are more varied than I thought. 2 Bourbons, 2 Bucks, 6 large flowered Climbers, 1 miniature climber, 6 English, 2 Floribunda, 2 hybrid Chinas, 1 hybrid Kordesii, 3 hybrid Musks, 1 hybrid Rugosa, 4 Hybrid Teas, 2 Noisettes, 4 Polyanthas, 2 Shrubs, 1 Species, and 4 Teas. Plus I have a few unlabeled mystery roses.
2 Hybrid Musk / 1 Hybrid Spinnosissima / 3 Hybrid Perpetual / 3 Moss
4 Bermuda Mystery / 4 Boubon / 4 Polyantha
5 Mini-Flora
9 China
10 Mini
11 Grandiflora
16 Shrub
21 Floribunda
36 Antique Tea
71 Hybrid Tea
Hopefully I didn't double count anything, but I have multiples of some things so I guess it doesn't matter. There are "around" 200 roses in my garden. They're ALL my favorites. :D
The roses will bloom again after the next round of shoots grows out.
The rose slugs (good diagnosis) are on the underside of the leaves. They have to be coated with oil or soap spray if it is to work. Easier just to wipe them off. Usually they don't become a severe problem because predators eat them.
You don't have to deadhead KO, but it will bloom somewhat better if you do. The idea is to prevent fruits from developing.
The original blooms were forced in a greenhouse, they want to grow roots now that they have good homes. Roses take 4 - 6 weeks between bloom cycles. Keep watering, hold back on the super-strength fertilizers. See this thread: Bloom Booster. A good organic fertilizer or a balanced fertilizer will serve you well.
Oh thank you! Yes, it has definitely been a good little rose, its blooms are always quite striking with its bright pink petals.
Thank you everyone for your advice! I was able to straighten this out with the nursery and they agree that it must have been mislabeled. They'll be sending me a new Alec's Red next week!
I bought Sundowner at Menards 2 years ago and it has survived the two brutal winters since with exceptional fortitude. Of course all HTs and grandifloras die back to ground level in this climate (so plant it deep--as Seil says) so the real test is how well they rejuvenate in spring. Mine is already as tall and vigorous as any HT/grandiflora growing among dozens. One of my best roses.
Read goncmg's comments in Columbus OH for details on how it wants to grow tall, even in this climate.
Roses are heavy feeders . They like it rich in organics. Root competition can be a problem. The forsithia may win the battle. The forsithia roots will sneak into the the nice rose soil. A rhisome barrier would do the trick. A big piece of metal like an old street sign in the ground to block the roots. But that is a lot of work.
A normal topsoil layer is around 10" deep and the fine roots of roses mainly develop between 2" and 10" even if the good soil goes deeper. So I normally recommend that poor soil need be amended only about that deep. But in most gardens the subsoil is clay and heavier than the topsoil. It serves as a reservoir for water. Sand as subsoil is more of a problem because it retains hardly any water, and, paradoxically, a heavier topsoil will not drain into sand below. It creates what is called a "hanging water table" if you want to learn more about it.
I would dig the area around 18" deep and incorporate a 2" layer of clay (use clean, plain kitty litter) as well as several inches of compost, including some manure. Look up the "double digging" technique that is used to add amendments at depth.
Sara Ann,
From someone who just moved last month, downsizing, because our two kids are in high school, and while we are a little ways from retirement , we built this home thinking it could be our retirement home if we do not leave Southern Nevada.
It has been WORK trying to downsize into a 4 + 3, and trying to determine what to do with property more than 3 times the size of our last is a challenge. After 6 trips to a donation facility, we still have 1 1/2 10x 20 storage units. I brought 60+ roses in pots, should have put many of the roses in smaller pots. It has been three weeks, we are still unpacking what is in the garage and five roses are in the ground as we continue to work with a landscape designer. I am in my forties and cannot imagine doing this in ten years or so. We decided that if another move is in store, we will just sell or donate almost everything, and move on with a little trailer of special items attached to a truck.
While we aren't minimalists, we are not pack rats either. I do not know if you have looked around to see just what moving will entail? If you have your druthers, would you want to move now or later? Seems as though the time to move being soon, and benefits you will gain, could possibly outweigh the negatives.
Lynn
This is free advice so take it for what it's worth. Go. Go as soon as it is reasonably possible. And start planning now for the eventualities that go with a move and with aging. Get rid of everything that you don't need. Store what you can and get your home ready to sell if that's part of the plan. Start making changes in the next home now and even consider moving in whatever plants and outdoor equipment that you'll be taking. Moves don't get easier if you wait. I've been through this before plenty of times with husband and children and I, along with my brothers and sisters, helped my mother move after my father died. Mom was not used to moving and tended to think emotionally rather than rationally even in better times. It did not go well, but we got through it. But that's a story for another time.
Now Mom is in her 80's and is still, well, herself, except that she has physical limitations that affect living where she is and taking care of the property. My husband has talked to her about making future housing and living decisions now while she is able, before an emergency may require that they'll be made for her. She doesn't hear him. I see this going worse than the first time. And we are not as young as we were 20+ years ago, either.
This is a blessing for you and your husband on many levels. You have your health and have a daughter and son-in-law who can help you. You can move in at your own convenience. It's a great place. You'll be near your grandchildren. The rose garden is just gravy. I'm sure there's a down side to this, there always is. But think long and hard about putting off moving.
Rosaholic I am in Western Australia! Rather far away from where you are. There are 4 rose nurseries in Perth so as long as the variety has been introduced into Australia it is not hard to find. I am a complete fragrance maniac so I don't think I can devote my limited garden space to any non-fragrant roses.... thanks for your input though.
Did you check the bottom side of the leaves by any chance. The spots are usually made by the little ones that can be hard too see as they blend in with the leaf. Tiny light green worms.
High phosphorus fertilizers are not good for roses or any plant unless the soil is quite deficient, which it usually is not. I know every other garden book says otherwise, but these are out of touch with plant science.