22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses
Kim - I have been in and out of GW for a while with my own issues and hadn't realized you were moving! It sounds like you have a terrific plan and the worst of the rose moving accomplished for now. I don't envy you the hassle of reshaping and tearing out the existing trees, but as you say the ground stability and lack of gophers makes up for the hassles in the long run. Do any of those trees have invasive suckers that you'll have to watch for, or possible regrowth from pieces of the roots? In my old house, we had invasive deep-rooted plants like Virginia Creeper and "Tree of Heaven" (a massively mis-named junk tree), that I swore I wouldn't deal with in the new house. I was actually glad our new house owners weren't remotely gardeners, so there was little to need to remove to get started.
I'm very glad you've been able to save your own seedlings, since those are priceless and irreplaceable testaments to years of work. In the renovations of the new yard, would that include a greenhouse, or is that unnecessary in your coastal paradise of temperatures? That would be a top wish for me in my retirement here in zone 5, but since I'm nowhere near that age yet I'm not pining too much.
Best wishes on the move and let me know when you're settled enough to want some more band pots. I'll just hang onto them until you want them, as you have plenty of work cut out for you in the meantime, but I always have a collection of them.
Cynthia
Thank you, Cynthia! Great to "see you"! Much appreciated. I don't think what has to be removed will regrow, except the Algerian Ivy (ewww!). The worst is, especially in engineered soil, ALL roots possible must be removed or the potential for oak root fungus increases dramatically. It's going to be a "word deleted", but you have to do what you have to do. No, ma'am, a green house isn't a necessity as freezes are virtually non existent. I'm looking at the mountain of "stuff"...a dumpster is looking better and BETTER! Kim
Before I posted my photos (on the antique rose forum) I downsized them to an 800 x 600 size and then just dragged them over to my post. I have my pictures in a folder on my computer and just opened the folder to the pictures I wanted and, as mentioned, dragged them over to the post, i.e. the pictures and the post were on the screen at the same time.
I'm not even sure I'd be comfortable calling myself a small-r rosarian. I've been growing roses for only about 5 years; before that I chose plants that reminded me of roses but weren't as intimidating - begonias, dahlias, etc. Now I'm up to 55 roses; mostly floribundas with a handful of HTs, shrubs and minis thrown in. A couple climbers too but I don't have a lot of room for the really big ones. If I did I'd try Jude the Obscure in a heartbeat! I'm living in Toronto Canada, and my neighourhood is a nice little microclimate that qualifies as USDA zone 5b; at times I can even stretch that to 6. My yard is full of mixed perennial beds and has all types of light areas. I've got almost as many varieties of hostas as roses, and more iris, but only because they don't take up as much space. I also love lilies and peonies, particularly the intersectionals. In my "past life" I was a wildlife biologist and worked at several different zoos in Canada and the US throughout my education/career as a keeper, trainer, wildlife educator, and researcher. I loved that work more than I can say, but ultimately, when the time came, being at home for my kids came first. To my immense pleasure, I found that my appreciation for nature, science and taxonomy, my obsessive devotion to detail and my love of living things of all shapes translated very naturally into gardening. I'm not a member of any rose society yet, but now that you mention it... I'd better look into the local club scene!
This is the big version of my current profile icon. It's not a rose shot but it reminds me of a very special time in my life. The shot is about 10 years old, and is me visiting with some young and friendly elephants. I will always feel highly privileged to have had such experiences.
Karen
I visited Nelson's a few weeks ago and saw their mail order operation up close. They send out the same roses that you'd find in their 3gal pots but in 1 gallon pots instead. I'm impressed with the ease of the ordering process and the varieties that they offer. If you find a rose on their regular website that you like they will work with you on sending you that rose, even if it's not on their mail-order website.
Bought mine in 2014 from Chamblees as an own root. She was very small (1/2 gallon). I got very little blooms last year, but I am expecting good things this year. The blooms I did get we're just like yours. A beautiful rose named for a great lady.
That's not how Heritage looks here. We don't get bubblegum pink out of her in my garden, where she's really pale usually. And she's a warmer pink (but so pale that her tone doesn't matter much).
To keep that medium pink here, she would not be who I'd go with, although I do have her with that same salvia myself so that's certainly pretty :D
Steven, thanks for telling about your roses! I happen to have both of those ones, I'll be extra interested in smelling them this year~ Now that I think of it, I have noticed that roses smell differently as they age, I've just never really thought about it, and probably thought it wouldn't be a difference I could put into words.
Christopher, thanks for writing all that out! I loved reading it and it gives me more to look in to. Any time you want to write anything more...
Thanks everyone for your responses; it will be neat to notice more things this summer coming ~
I thought of this thread again when I read this online, from an article called 'History of Roses' by Jerry Haynes. Can't wait till the roses come back.
"Fragrance Footnote: The fragrance of Rosa moschata has a two-part profile of spice/clove (the "musk" element coming from the stamens, especially in a young bloom) and rich, sweet, and not quite fruity but something akin to banana that comes from the petals. It is unforgettable!"
Oh Sara I know what you mean. I always go back and look at the previous years pics to see about when I should expect some blooms. Even one bloom. Usually though the sucker I am I've already picked up roses I reserved at a local nursery that always carries nice roses and lots of english to boot. I usually get them the last week of March and usually don't get blooms on mine until late April early to mid May if memory serves me right. If I see some at our big box stores too I grab a few bc I just can't walk away. Judy
Your seedling are beautiful Seil! I hope to one day have some beautiful seedlings of my own! I'll keep trying! Seil how long did it take you to get good at growing from seed?