22,152 Garden Web Discussions | Roses
view1ny, thanks for your well-wishes; I'm soooo looking forward to mending and getting my hands back in the dirt.
phyllissteen, thanks for the tip about Above All. I'm always interested in spectacular apricot-orange climbers, tho at present I'm thrilled with the color and performance of the Tradescants that replaced our dudly Westerlands.
Hmm that's a good idea. Do you mean that stuff in the can called, Pruning Seal? I bought some of that years ago to spray the insides of some clay pots to make them less porous. That might be something to try. Would that do something evil to the root cut on Pat Austin though? It smells like tar if I remember right lol.
Gosh I am so jealous of your upcoming fun trip and all your mushroom compost! It sounds like pure heaven.
It looks like you got some really gorgeous roses. I was looking at Charles McIntosh too lol. You will have to let me know how it does grafted.
I ordered Lady Emma H. from Heirloom on its own root. I will be interested to see how large she will get here on own root. I have a kinda rounded style urn that I want to put her in since she stays smaller than some. If she gets too big I will have to bump her up to something larger. I think she would make a nice centerpiece maybe flanked by a couple Sharifa Asmas in urns.
I hope your winter is done with. They say ours is basically over now as well. Its been raining the last 3 days and cold. Yuck Yuck. I'm debating on pulling stuff out of the greenhouse this weekend.
Yes, that's it. It covers the wound, preventing insects from entering the wood on oak trees - like a sealer. I would think it would cover the wound like a liquid bandage a cut on our finger. Works well on trees....why not on the roses? Or you could push them together, tape with masking tape....maybe they would grow back together. Or tie with string.....anything to push the cut together. Then again....maybe they would grow fine as is. Bet they do.
Will certainly report on how the grafted vs. own root Austins do. Charles Rennie McIntosh is a most delightful shade of lilac/pink. Really pretty! My current Lady Emma H. is in a pot - own root, very healthy, but I am expecting the Lady Emma I get grafted is going to be much bigger. I tell you - these Austins from DA take off and grow! Your idea of putting these in urns sounds beautiful - perhaps with a trailing plant like asparagus fern, money plant.....
It is quite cold here, though temps are "just" 37. Due to bone chilling cold, seems worse than that. Really, I consider every day above ground a good day, am glad to be here! Spring will be here soon enough - I bet this time next week, we are quite a bit warmer, and with the upcoming week of rain we will be getting, bet we will soon see some sunshiny days! I just bought an incubator to hatch some chicks so that will give me something to do inside while waiting for spring. Of course I could always finish taxes or clean a closet.........Judith
Many yrs ago I had a grafted one that didn't stripe. A friend had gotten a grafted one from the same nursery, and it did stripe. She rooted a cutting for me, and it has remained striped all the time. I've had it for over 10yrs. Love it!
I would give that own root a chance. I think it may possibly just need some time to mature in order to keep the striping. It'll just be a waiting game I suppose. But if you find in the second blooming that it still hasn't shown the stripes, I would contact RVR and send pics, and just let them know that it might not end up striping. I'm sure they would replace it.
I have been dabbling in growing roses from open-pollinated hip seeds, and a couple of them are striped roses. But the initial blooming and sometimes the second bloomings did not show much striping at all. By summer the striping comes on in full force. One in particular, a seedling of BROADWAY that grows near a bed of several stripeys, does this every yr so far. It's still pretty small, but I think once it becomes a big, established plant, it will show stripes all the time.
When you go looking for sources, one good place to check is HelpMeFind Roses ... Look for the "Buy From" tab, upper right.
But be cautious, too, about WHAT you order. Some roses I know to be wonderful in TX don't "shine" where I am, on the SoCal coast. Rust is one problem. Mildew another. We aren't much troubled by blackspot -- but oh, man, MILDEW!
So, you may find that at least some roses you loved in a TX garden aren't available in CA because ... they don't do well here.
I grew Lilian Austin on multiflora rootstock for almost a decade up here in zone 6b. The blooms are as lovely as they photograph. What most photos don't show is the vicious thorns which are large, numerous and very sharp.
Mine drew so much blood that some really invasive grasses discovered th plant and took over, because I had trouble getting under the bush to do weeding.
Goatskin gloves may not be enough; welding gloves do work with gauntlets.
kathy9norcal, Your Lilian is just beautiful ! I love those wavy petals and that loose double look! I am definitely going to order her.
stillanntn, Thank you for the heads up on the thorns. I will have to be extra careful around this one then. I grow several varieties bougainvillea which has a lot of huge thorns too. I should get some gauntlets for those as well. Maybe the thorns will keep a few of my greedy flower- eating roosters away from the roses lol.
Please go online and look up RRD. I had a class with DR. Mark Windham from the University of Tennessee. He said to not mess around with a plant, get rid of it. RRD can wipe roses out quickly. He also said when the rose has it in it it will be dead in two years.
RRD is nothing to mess around with!!/
Patty, you are correct!!!!!!!!!!!
I regret to say that I ruined the appearance and growth of a lovely Princess de Nassau by injudicious pruning. Learn from my sad experience and leave that most beautiful of rose bushes alone. I said most beautiful of rose bushes; la Princesse is one of the few roses of which it it can be said that the foliage and growth habit are truly beautiful by themselves and can contribute much to a garden planting even without blooms and fragrance.
Royal Sunset is one of my favorite roses :) The colors are absolutely beautiful, scent is excellent -- citrus to me -- and she's quite healthy. She blooms frequently, but not continually like some of my smaller-flowered climbers can do.
She is hearty, but her vigor isn't very fast; she can get quite tall but may take a while to do it. That's a good thing if you don't need a house-eater!
I just love her. Her color is more yellow-y in all-day sun here and it stayed totally apricots and oranges in more shade. I don't get pinks on her where I am, and the orange isn't bright, except for her buds (or in the fall!). Love her!
Patty I didn't even notice when I found CANCAN and ordered it, that it was own root. That's fine with me tho. The funny thing is, it doesn't show up under the climbers at all, own root or grafted. I actually found it under the web specials. I saw some pics of it on HMF and on Garden Valley Ranch's website (which is even more expensive and they already closed up for the mail ordering season too). I was intrigued by the photos showing that it can have a purple edge on the hot pink. I think it will go very nicely with STORMY WEATHER on an arbor. Can't wait to see it.
Steven, thanks for telling about your roses! I happen to have both of those ones, I'll be extra interested in smelling them this year~ Now that I think of it, I have noticed that roses smell differently as they age, I've just never really thought about it, and probably thought it wouldn't be a difference I could put into words.
Christopher, thanks for writing all that out! I loved reading it and it gives me more to look in to. Any time you want to write anything more...
Thanks everyone for your responses; it will be neat to notice more things this summer coming ~
I thought of this thread again when I read this online, from an article called 'History of Roses' by Jerry Haynes. Can't wait till the roses come back.
"Fragrance Footnote: The fragrance of Rosa moschata has a two-part profile of spice/clove (the "musk" element coming from the stamens, especially in a young bloom) and rich, sweet, and not quite fruity but something akin to banana that comes from the petals. It is unforgettable!"