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I can only offer experience from hot and dry zone 10 so it may not necessarily apply to you....

Evelyn for me is extremely tall and wide - 3 metre wide and 2 metre tall so definitely for back of border. These are great for cut flowers.

PJP is normal HT size. Dense growth and lots of flowers all the time. Very quick repeat and opens slowly - good for a position where you can see and smell all the time - unless you want to cut them. They do make great cut roses too.

Duchesse de Brabant - typical tea growth, will grow to 2 metres wide and shorter. It has a tendency to spread sideways rather than up. I put mine at the edge of a raised bed and the canes and flowers arch downwards gracefully and is always covered in blooms.

Munstead Wood stayed small for the first 6 months and then started shooting 2 metre tall Octopus canes which I hacked back to 2 feet. Nice old rose fragrance. Very very thorny so not too close to the footpath...

Sunsprite is always short. I prefer this grown as a standard so that you don't have to bend down to smell the flowers.

I have many of those roses, but they are new for me, so I'll only talk about the ones I've had for awhile.

Duchesse d'Brabant can get wide, it is a tea, but not a gigantic one. It's a great rose except for the fact that the first flush often falls prey to thrips. Other than that, it's great, but maybe not for a narrow border.

Lady Hillingdon, on the other hand, has a narrow upright growth habit. It would be good in a border.

St. Patrick, I had this before and it did very well. I had it by my mailbox. It's a HT so can stay narrow. The blooms are beautiful. I lost mine a few years ago, but I did get a new one.

Fair Bianca, this is a small Austin, but with powerful blooms. Mine has been down to one cane since the horrible 2013/14 winter, but must have 30 blooms on it right now. It will stay low, about 2.5 feet and not that wide. Good for a front border.

I do spray, so I'm not sure about the BS resistance, I believe St. Patrick does not get that much for an HT. The teas get a bit, but are more resistant. Fair Bianca, I don't think is that bad. Believe it or not, I still get some BS on roses even with spraying so those are in the 'no disease resistance whatsover' category. None of these are.

Easy Elegance roses are a good choice. Also consider some of the ADR certified roses, Edmunds Roses has a few & Palatines, from Canada, has a good number of them. Since you are in z5, remember to plant your grafted roses with the bud union 3-4 inches below ground & own root roses can be planted 1-2 inches deeper than what they are in the pot....this will improve winter survival. Here is a link to a list of ADR roses ADR ROSES

I have the EE rose Kiss Me and it is very fragrant. Music Box is a good one too from EE. Last fall I planted Party Hardy, and it was hardy to the tips - can't tell you yet about fragrance though:) Poke around on the forums a little, then go out and look around and see what you like!

I've had buds that took so long to open that when they did, they weren't pretty. This was during a cool spell in spring. The next blooms were fine. You may want to pinch some of these off, to help expedite the next round of blooms.

Thanks, Kentucky Rose, I will watch, and if they get burnt or chewed, I may go ahead and pinch them off.

Yes, herbicide damage can look like the photos. Agree with removing the canes, and we'll all hope that it is nothing more than herbicide damage. Oh, and herbicide spray can drift 20+ feet.

I meant faciation(sp) but it's not that either.

That looks to be a very good possibility, Cynthia. Congratulations! Kim

Thanks, folks! It's nice to know I can occasionally get one right. Cadiarose - I'd be curious what you're getting as your freebies from RV. I still have three more mysteries that haven't bloomed, as well as three more on the way, and I'm always interested in a little advance warning of what they might be. Thanks

Cynthia

For sure 'hoovb' re reflowering. Our JC blooms profusely from the third week of June for almost a month and then almost no blooms after that.

Wow, a beautiful garden! :-) You should have a garden party!

Are sucrates the same as sulphates? I doubt it.

Oops, I'm half blind. I'll erase my post.

I just finished re-planting about 10 roses to new (uncrowded) locations in my garden. Because it gets below freezing here only a couple of days each winter, I planted them with the union above the soil. (2 of those roses had Dr Huey canes so I ripped them off and planted the grafted parts)

3 other roses had been taken over by Dr. Huey (no grafted parts remain) so I trashed those roses.

In zone 9, I would expose the graft so that suckers are immediately identified as such. Also the fleshy roots are at the depth they grew at in the field. When roots of Huey are panted too deep, it may slow development of the plant for a while. On digging such plants, I've seen a beard of fine roots growing out of the shank with little development of the original fleshy roots.

In my zone it's best to bury the graft slightly.

It is gorgeous! If you want it to look more orderly now, pull the parts where you want them and use a little plant wire to secure them. Then you won't have to prune! I do that all the time with my roses and other tall plants/climbers that respond well to it :)

Thank you everyone. I think I'm convinced, other than maybe doing what Meredith suggested, I'm going to leave it alone.

I only covered the new greenhouse roses I just got and planted from RU just in case... Our other roses are established so those temps would not hurt those roses...

We hit 34 over here, pretty cool

It has no fragrance to me whereas the normal orange blooms have a slight fragrance. It is very pretty though and I'd love to have a full bush of it. If I take a cutting of the stem and by a miracle I can get it to root will it root as this rose or just as the original color?

I would mark the cane with a ribbon and see what it does in the next flush. Some sports are stable, while others revert back quickly. If it is a stable sport, that whole stem back to the mother cane and out to future growth will produce the new flower..

Most roses are hard to root unless you have experience and the right equipment, so there is danger of wasting it. I would entrust the cuttings to an expert, or better yet, someone who us skilled at bud grafting. If it is a stable sport, you need to act before winter. Contact your local ARS chapter to learn who is the best propagator around.

Summer snow?

I happened to be going through my newest rose catalogue, and I found another two Kordes roses which might be possibilities. They are Diamant( Diamond,White Sunsation, Brilliant vigorosa) and Heidesommer.

You will be pleased with the plant Burling sends. She's my "go to" nursery in the West.

Long Ago Rose nursery also has it.