22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

lol @ jkellydallas. Trust me, most of us have those holes in our garden.

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pat_bamaz7

Oh Sara Ann, your roses are looking so great!!!

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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

I do wish for large roses since it is hard to grow them that large in my climate. But I don't think I want to tackle a huge monster no matter how beautiful. With regards to Thorns, it can't be much worst than Jude the Obscure, New Dawn, or Gertrude Jekyll.

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cleangeek(Zone 9)

I have a Westerland and I grow it as a shrub, in zone 9 he grows 10" every 6 weeks then blooms. His canes are 1" thick and I planted him next to a tall fence, so far he stands on his own. Pruning and training has a lot to do with growth habit.

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Kristi North Mo zone 5b Jochims Davis

I have a New Dawn that is about 7 feet tall on my arbor. I give it very little care and it has very little die back from winter. I live in 5b in north Mo just a few miles from southern Iowa. I have had it about 5 years maybe not sure.

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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

Yes I do live in Canada, Laura. Well, I don't want it too overgrown therefore I will prune it shorter. I do want it to grow across my fence in the backyard. Thanks for the info everyone.

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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

The canes are very stiff, you need to train it while the canes are still young. To me, it looks best trained on the horizontal. It is not disease (blackspot) resistant here in east central NJ.

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summersrhythm_z6a

Thanks Jasminerose & Diane for the info, nice photos! :-) I planted them against 2 trees, Hope I can tie them up to the trees later.

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seil zone 6b MI

I would love to see more interest in these fields! With all the interest in the environment I can see there would be growing job opportunities.

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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)

Kate: I really love your Jubilee photo. I just got that one this spring. I hope it looks like yours someday!

I am planning to put my JC by a bench so hopefully I will be able to enjoy the nodding flowers if it doesn't get too tall.

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seil zone 6b MI

This is all good info! I just got Jubilee Celebration and Queen of Sweden yesterday and plan to plant them tomorrow!

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Somebody will be the first, though.

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Need2SeeGreen(10 (SoCal))

Thanks so much, everyone!!! I did take a look at it again, but I didn't see *anything,* (well except for there are still aphids around...) so I don't know what to think. I will look up some thrip pictures and at least I will know what to look for. I didn't see any spider-y looking things either.

It is in a version of 5-1-1. As close as I could get to it anyhow. So, it's mostly bark chips. I may have overfertilized I suppose -- I put in Osmo Plus when I planted it and I put on fish emulsion every week or so. (Someone said the proliferation could be a sign of too much fert -- so maybe that's chewing the leaves too? I'll stop with the emulsion for a while.)

Thanks again! I really appreciate the help.

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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

Yea I hate those critters...lol. We must have killed at least 200 hundreds last summer. I flick so many into a bowl of water that I can do it in my sleep!

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countrygirl_sc, Upstate SC(7a)

The last year that I had them really bad, I filled up about 10 of the beetle bags in less than a week! I used them in conjunction with hand picking. I hope I never have them that bad again. They devastated a peach tree that was covered with huge peaches almost ready to pick in one morning! The next year I used milk jugs with the bait inside and only filled it up partially. The last few years I have only had a few. I figure I prevented millions of JB from being born.

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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

I usually only have to water the new plants. The older plants fend for themselves, but the main bed is on drip irrigation if they need a soaking.

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

We had to fast moving thunderstorms yesterday which dumped some heavy rains but they didn't last to long...

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nikthegreek(9b/10a E of Athens, Greece)

Did I say any differently? Sulfate reduction during boggy conditions results in lowered pH when the soil dries up because, as you mention, the reduced sulphur gets oxidized. Indicative of boggy conditions is the rotten egg smell of hydrogen sulfide. Also, did I say any differently with regards to the ammonium or aluminum reactions?

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azdoctor

Just trying to clarify for those interested in understanding soil reactions...

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seil zone 6b MI

Color can be affected by the weather and culture so they may be redder or pinker depending on that. There is also a double Pink KO too so maybe that's what you're seeing.

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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

Here, it is the cherry red that Kate describes, it is never a rich red (like Home Run). It does pink out in heat.

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fduk_gw UK zone 3 (US zone 8)

Are you talking rocks or pebbles? The only thing I can think of right now is that the stones might be less stable to walk on if not bedded in with sand.

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bart_2015

I'm talking about rocks. My soil is very rocky, and over the years as I've worked on it, I've dug up tons of them. many are very large and quite flat, so I can definitely see them as being appropriate stepping stones. I guess my thought was that, since the paths in question are already mulched with cardboard and on top of that, wood chips,the chips would help do the "bedding in" job. Maybe it would work???

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Glad to know that you're finally managing your sawfly infestation. Roses are beautiful plants, and it's a shame to see them get destroyed by pests. They seem to love the flavor of rose leaves for some reason. Just keep up with your pest control measures, do companion planting, and always do regular inspection so that you can control your sawfly problem. Good luck!

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nikthegreek(9b/10a E of Athens, Greece)

Use spinosad for relatively 'mild' treatment of lepidoptera, hymenoptera and thysanoptera. Spray in the evening after bees and flying predators have gone to bed. Spinosad WILL harm bees if it is sprayed when they are active but is relatively harmless when it dries up. For lepidoptera larvae Bt var. kurstaki may be preferable unless the particular insect has developed resistance to it. Regularly using wide range kill-all pesticides like carbamates (e.g Sevin) or organophosphates is not a good idea either for one's health or for long term pest management.

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rosecanadian

Yes, it truly is!!!! Wow!! Talk about adding pizzazz to your garden!!

Carol

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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

I just planted one last week and I am counting on it to bring wild excitement to my garden. I have to say Hoovb got a beautiful garden. Love the iron and white fence combo.

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

cool! best of luck!

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lothlin(5b)

I'll need it; with my luck, it'll end up being a plain old rosa multiflora that some bird pooped out that I'll have to pull up for fear of it eating my patio alive.

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