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jerijen(Zone 10)

If you would consider another color, I really do love both 'Lamarque' (shown above, and below) and also 'Reve d'Or.' They are Tea Noisettes, and I think should do well for you.

In ordinary years, my coastal strip of SoCal isn't warm enough to make yellow Tea Noisettes (such as 'Crepuscule') happy -- but THIS year we are breaking heat records. They like that!

    Bookmark   July 25, 2014 at 2:15PM
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patricianat

Red equal Fields of the Wood. It will do well in your area. I have it pillared in the southeast USA. Not all reds are reds and not all reds will pillar - Fields of the Wood will. It is AKA Kocher Red or Rhode Island Red. Great rose.

This post was edited by patricia43 on Fri, Jul 25, 14 at 14:22

    Bookmark   July 25, 2014 at 2:21PM
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welltraveled(z5Mid Mich)

Thank you so much. Susan,Nippstress and Seil.Makes me feel there is hope ..The growth is above the rootstock,

It does have a New Dawn growing next to on a tutuer it is doing the same thing lots of growth no buds.

    Bookmark   July 25, 2014 at 9:43AM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

And also remember that Eden is not the most eager and profuse bloomer on the planet. She's often reluctant to bloom very much even in a good year, though she usually does fine for the spring bloom.

Kate

    Bookmark   July 25, 2014 at 10:41AM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

I have this one in my zone 4 pocket in the front yard, and as all the Lim Easy Elegance roses are for me, it's healthy and hardy without a problem for me. The repeat bloom is decent - mine is only two years old and not into its full maturity - but not continuous blooming or quite as prolific as other Lim shrubs like Sweet Fragrance in the same bed. I'm glad I didn't count on it staying 2 feet tall, as it is starting to creep up to 3 feet even with the drastic pruning from the hard winter. I wouldn't treat this as a groundcover type rose like the "drift" series, but it's fairly contained so far.

The color is at its nicest in the cool weather, as you can see from last June's picture below. In weather like the 100 degrees we have today, it's kind of a washed-out coral pinkish color. Still a nice rose, but not one that's as eye-catching as other roses in that bed.

Cynthia

    Bookmark   July 21, 2014 at 3:39PM
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NatureHillsNursery

I donâÂÂt have this rose, but after seeing yours, IâÂÂd sure like one. What lovely color! Sounds like itâÂÂs also perfect for smaller spaces.

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 10:32PM
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summersrhythm_z6a

If you do that, deer will be back. Next story won't be pretty, your roses might be gone...... :-) Don't feed them, unless you can hunt in your yard when the hunting season starts.

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 7:00PM
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deervssteve(9)

My HT roses are all in cages. The deer walk right by them all the time. Look but don't touch.

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 7:06PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I'm going to start growing more roses in containers next year.
I'll start out with large containers and probably within 3 - 4 years will change the soil and trim the roots some...
Hopefully that works out...lol

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 5:33PM
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particentral(8)

Well if I were the building owner I would plant em in the ground, as I have my Belinda' s Dream and knockouts. But I opted to not dig up the entire yard for a rose garden that I might have to leave behind if I moved. I actually think I have better control over feeding, soil, and water this way too.

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 5:52PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Henry, you do such an amazing job of keeping up with all of this stuff and keeping us informed. It is appreciated...but...please stop finding more things I need to worry about, lol! Some days I just can't deal with finding out there are more things out there that want to destroy my roses.

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 2:39PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

lol @ Seil

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 5:20PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

You are in luck, boncrow. Buff Beauty is one of the few roses that does fine with some shade, especially protection from the afternoon sun which can scald some roses. Your situation sounds perfect.

Kate

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 12:41PM
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boncrow66

Great, glad to hear that about BB. I am thinking it would be pretty flanking each side of the stairs leading to my deck, there is space for something tall and wide there. I have also been think of Gruess an Achean (sp?) for that spot.

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 2:50PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I know that Florida has a real problem with these guys. Does any one know how far north they go or may go? Does anyone think they'll adapt to cold climates? Just curious.

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 2:41PM
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jacqueline9CA

If you go back to Help Me Find, and click on "buy from", and then scroll down to the bottom you will find a box that says "show all nurseries....". (The first short list is just nurseries that contribute to HMF.) Click on that, and there are 4+ pages of nurseries for this rose.

You are correct, most of them are in the UK or Europe, but I saw 4-5 that were either in the US or Canada. I would search on each ones web site. If the web site lists the rose, the safest thing to do is to call them on the phone to find out if they really have it.

Good Luck!

Jackie

    Bookmark   July 23, 2014 at 6:48PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Roses Unlimited has it. I tried it because of the reputation for disease resistance, but it was highly susceptible to cercospora spot in my climate. YMMV. The color was mostly a hot coral, not the silvery and pastel blend you see in some pictures. The plant habit was dense and shrubby.

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 10:18AM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

I agree with Seil -- Except in the case of wide-spread disease, I would not practice general defoliation of roses in the summer.

Here at the coast, (Borderline Z 23/24) we are THEORETICALLY cool enough to prevent cane burn -- but the coastal temperatures are going higher and higher.

The canes need the shade of their leaves.

I DO notice and remove leaves on Hybrid Perpetuals which are beginning to rust. But new foliage is never touched.

And I would be FAR more restrained with any of your roses which are first-year plants.

    Bookmark   July 23, 2014 at 9:21PM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

If the plants are mature, the Santa Clarita Valley Rose Society in Southern California, recommends pruning 1/3 of the canes around labor day (September 1st this year) for nice blooms by October. My roses are too new to try that this year, but I'll keep it in mind for the future.

    Bookmark   July 24, 2014 at 12:17AM
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Mary423(6B)

Thanks zack. I thought as much. What is it with yellows in that range?

    Bookmark   July 23, 2014 at 5:43PM
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roseseek

Black spot resistance as well as susceptibility, varies greatly from one location to the next. I sold it along the SoCal coast and couldn't get enough of them. NO diseases at all and a luscious color everyone loved. But, it is a Dickson rose from Britain. That contract probably fell through the cracks in Week's bankruptcy and sale, leaving the patented rose orphaned. From my observations here, it was a good rose for these types of climates and should have remained available instead of quite a few others which are still plodding along. Kim

    Bookmark   July 23, 2014 at 10:15PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I tried to find something on a Lady Linda for you but couldn't. Sorry, but some companies just create their own names for existing roses. It may be one of those. Maybe when it blooms you could post a photo. We may be able to help you then.

    Bookmark   July 23, 2014 at 7:54PM
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roseseek

Might there be some sort of breeder's code on its tag? Something like "Ausblush" or "Meigoogle" or something? If so, that will help point toward who created the rose and may make it discoverable. Kim

    Bookmark   July 23, 2014 at 9:56PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Fantastic garden Kate! :-)
And Cynthia your pic is awesome too! :-)

    Bookmark   July 23, 2014 at 4:23PM
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missmary

The Picts you've shared are so helpful - Thanks so much! These full garden and full plant views help me see and plan for how a garden takes shape and matures.
Miss Mary

    Bookmark   July 23, 2014 at 9:43PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

Some roses, like hybrid musks, do all right in less than 6 hours sun, but for most roses, I think you will find that they are not quite as floriferous and are slower on the re-bloom and perhaps have more BS problems than roses grown in 6 or more hours of sun. I have a double Knock Out in full sun and another one that only gets 3-4 hours sun, with maybe some passing sunlight as the day progresses. The sunny Knock Out blooms twice as much and much more frequently than the shady one--but the good news is that the shady one does bloom and looks very nice in bloom--you will just have to put up with it looking only like a green bush a good part of the time.

By all means--try it out since they are already planted, and let us know how it goes. In the meantime, during the next year or two, you might keep an eye out from several good sunny places to move them to if, indeed, they don't exactly thrive in their present placement.

Good luck.

Kate

    Bookmark   July 22, 2014 at 10:12AM
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kans

Thanks guys! Will give it a try.

    Bookmark   July 23, 2014 at 9:38PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I don't know, Ittay, that rose looks pretty happy and healthy go up that post!

    Bookmark   July 23, 2014 at 7:37PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Some roses have canes that are simply not flexible.

Those stiffer roses aren't suitable for winding around a pole, but are better used against a fence or trellis.

You might transplant this rose, next year, to a more-suitable spot, and look for something with LAX canes, for this purpose.

Even then, you will want to train the cane, gradually, as it grows, while it retains the ability to bend.

    Bookmark   July 23, 2014 at 9:27PM
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