22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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trippstadt62

I'll look. Thanks.

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Yep that looks like Rose Slug damage...

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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)

Heirloom Roses and Edmonds lists it hardy to zone 6. It is a newer rose so it probably hasn't been experimented with a lot in cooler climates either.

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

Jasmine, I might not make it to the Huntington until next year, but I'll make sure to take a photo the next time I see Raspberry Cream Twirl. It will be interesting to see how much it grows in that time.

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jerijen(Zone 10)

That looks like blackspot to me.

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zack_lau z6 CT

FWIW I don't see it on roses that are regularly sprayed with a fungicide--while I have seen it on roses that haven't been sprayed.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

If it suddenly appears on several parts of several plants, it's herbicide. RRD normally starts on one cane.

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msdorkgirl(11)

Keeping them watered in Oahu is no problem (I think we've had rain every night for the past two months) ... frustrating since now I have to worry about black spot In addition to thrips and now the roundup damage. Luckily half my roses are in another part of the property.

I will be watching out for new canes and what kind of growth they have, hoping I won't need to dump any that I really want to keep.

Its Roundup because it's affected all the plants at the same time in that same area with those spindly new growth things but it's not an explosion of new growth. The growth too is red on some of them but eventually turns green.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

In blackspot country, water when the leaves will dry completely before dark, not in late evening. I water in the morning for this reason.

Don't use sprinklers in the sun, especially with high temps or low humidity, as a significant amount of water will evaporate before it sinks into the soil.

In areas with powdery mildew but little or no blackspot, overhead watering in the wee hours helps to control mildew.

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seil zone 6b MI

Michael is giving you the ideal situations. However, in practice I water when I can and that's usually in the afternoon, unfortunately, when it's hot. If you have a timer system that's great. You can set the times to the ideal but when you water by hand you just do the best you can and hope for the best. I really do try not to water in the evening but sometimes it's a choice between that and no water at all. And then Mother Nature never times her watering at all, lol!

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Thanks all!...

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farmerduck

I have a Earth Song, grown no spray. It is very bs resistant AND winter hardy. It has dark red/brown canes and is a fuller bush in growth habit. I am in Northern Jersey, and our Bs pressures should be comparabl

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bryanlihp

I'll do what you said, thanks!

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mcgrammarhammer

It's its own reward too most of the time in my garden.

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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)

I would also pinch the flower buds off to lessen the stress on the plant right now. Once it recovers then allow the buds to form again.

Crossing my fingers for you. I've fertilizer burnt plants before. I only use liquid fertilizers now (except for compost) I really don't like the granular ones. There is some osmocote type that comes in the potting soils but that one hasn't caused me any problems. Another reason I can't use the granular types is that the dumb chickens eat it lol.

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kentucky_rose zone 6

Good luck!

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gardenbug(8b)

Thanks Michael for taking the time to write out this information which is very helpful to know. I actually ended up purchasing an organic biofish food for my roses.

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nikthegreek(9b/10a E of Athens, Greece)

The worst thing about general purpose ferts targeting the amateur garden keeper is that they contain WAY too much phosphorus. Not even in pots would one need so much P in relation with N and K. In a garden environment unless there is a specific soil deficiency, no P is needed to be added. If the pH is way out of range for P availability for the specific plants either pH should be controlled or P applied foliarly.

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sam 5a Adirondack

The first 2 or 3 years mine was shooting a gazillion canes. Like Sara Ann , I didn't know what to prune.

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summersrhythm_z6a

Thanks toolbelt & Sam, I will plant them tomorrow, didn't have enough time before dark. I think the long side, I might plant a cl pinkie if it's not dead( I moved cl pinkie twice within 4 weeks, it doesn't look too good, without any new growth), and the other 2 sides I plant 2 ZDs, one on each side. Trying to plant the roses with no thorns for the dog run. :-)

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

So it's own-root with only one cane. I wouldn't be concerned about the black patch at the pruning cut. After it makes two or three new basal canes, I would consider taking down the old cane to below the patch of dead bark with slits.

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

Thanks! I will hope for new basals.

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SoFL Rose z10

Sounds like chili thrips. What did you spray with?

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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

I tried a number of things and found they were susceptible to beta-cyfluthrin and Confidor. In fact they were susceptible to other pyrethroids too but I try to use the more affordable ones as well as the ones more gentle on the plants. Some others can burn the leaves especially in hot weather. I also found that spraying the roses alone was not enough. The chrysanthemum and heliotrope hedges had to be sprayed as well otherwise they can act as reservoir for the thrips.

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sara_ann-z6bok

Beautiful!

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James_Shaw_San Francisco Bay Area

Same flower a day later.

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rosecanadian

I just love Evelyn!!! What a rose!!!

Carol

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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

Hi Carol do you grow Evelyn? It is a huge rose in zone 10 but could be just the right vigor for you. My favourite Austin fragrances are Evelyn and Munstead Wood. Munstead Wood smells like Frederic Mistral and Black Boy. Evelyn has a very nice and strong yet soft rose perfume. No myrrh tones which so many of the Austins do have and unfortunately does not agree with my nose.

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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

My alba meid's are tough as nails and would do fine in containers. I use them in some spots that are worse than containers, I'm sure :D Some of mine get insane root competition from large trees, so that's about as bad as it gets.

They won't get as big as they can get, naturally, but that's what you want for container plants. They'll still send long arms out, so you'll need little trellises unless you want them spilling out over the container a fair bit.

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