22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Thanks all!...

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farmerduck

I have a Earth Song, grown no spray. It is very bs resistant AND winter hardy. It has dark red/brown canes and is a fuller bush in growth habit. I am in Northern Jersey, and our Bs pressures should be comparabl

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bryanlihp

I'll do what you said, thanks!

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mcgrammarhammer

It's its own reward too most of the time in my garden.

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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)

I would also pinch the flower buds off to lessen the stress on the plant right now. Once it recovers then allow the buds to form again.

Crossing my fingers for you. I've fertilizer burnt plants before. I only use liquid fertilizers now (except for compost) I really don't like the granular ones. There is some osmocote type that comes in the potting soils but that one hasn't caused me any problems. Another reason I can't use the granular types is that the dumb chickens eat it lol.

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kentucky_rose zone 6

Good luck!

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gardenbug(8b)

Thanks Michael for taking the time to write out this information which is very helpful to know. I actually ended up purchasing an organic biofish food for my roses.

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nikthegreek(9b/10a E of Athens, Greece)

The worst thing about general purpose ferts targeting the amateur garden keeper is that they contain WAY too much phosphorus. Not even in pots would one need so much P in relation with N and K. In a garden environment unless there is a specific soil deficiency, no P is needed to be added. If the pH is way out of range for P availability for the specific plants either pH should be controlled or P applied foliarly.

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sam 5a Adirondack

The first 2 or 3 years mine was shooting a gazillion canes. Like Sara Ann , I didn't know what to prune.

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summersrhythm_z6a

Thanks toolbelt & Sam, I will plant them tomorrow, didn't have enough time before dark. I think the long side, I might plant a cl pinkie if it's not dead( I moved cl pinkie twice within 4 weeks, it doesn't look too good, without any new growth), and the other 2 sides I plant 2 ZDs, one on each side. Trying to plant the roses with no thorns for the dog run. :-)

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

So it's own-root with only one cane. I wouldn't be concerned about the black patch at the pruning cut. After it makes two or three new basal canes, I would consider taking down the old cane to below the patch of dead bark with slits.

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

Thanks! I will hope for new basals.

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SoFL Rose z10

Sounds like chili thrips. What did you spray with?

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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

I tried a number of things and found they were susceptible to beta-cyfluthrin and Confidor. In fact they were susceptible to other pyrethroids too but I try to use the more affordable ones as well as the ones more gentle on the plants. Some others can burn the leaves especially in hot weather. I also found that spraying the roses alone was not enough. The chrysanthemum and heliotrope hedges had to be sprayed as well otherwise they can act as reservoir for the thrips.

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sara_ann-z6bok

Beautiful!

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James_Shaw_San Francisco Bay Area

Same flower a day later.

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rosecanadian

I just love Evelyn!!! What a rose!!!

Carol

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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

Hi Carol do you grow Evelyn? It is a huge rose in zone 10 but could be just the right vigor for you. My favourite Austin fragrances are Evelyn and Munstead Wood. Munstead Wood smells like Frederic Mistral and Black Boy. Evelyn has a very nice and strong yet soft rose perfume. No myrrh tones which so many of the Austins do have and unfortunately does not agree with my nose.

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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

My alba meid's are tough as nails and would do fine in containers. I use them in some spots that are worse than containers, I'm sure :D Some of mine get insane root competition from large trees, so that's about as bad as it gets.

They won't get as big as they can get, naturally, but that's what you want for container plants. They'll still send long arms out, so you'll need little trellises unless you want them spilling out over the container a fair bit.

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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

Well I have yet to plant mine. I was hoping this weekend but the forecast is thunderstorm. Yikes...

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hoganjr

How often can u fertilize with rose tone/ organic?

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irisgal_z9

Love your choices (Lady of Shalott etc.). Looks like you're doing some bouquet planning.

Aside from climate restrictions on the one to add --- 'Tiffany' would fit right in with the other yellow based pink/peaches. 'Secret' not so much. IMO. I grow both and 'Secret' is, well, she is distinct. I think she would be a jarring note. I read that 'Francis Meilland' fades to white. One this pale may be difficult to place but I think it would make the bed more interesting. I put photos of each on my desktop and arranged. I cast my vote for FM.

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msdorkgirl(11)

My Francis Meilland is beautiful, when it blooms, but it is a very stingy bloomer in my little micro-climate on Oahu (full sun, windy, rain in the evening). It grew to 7 feet in a year, but I've only had 4 or 5 blooms from it, have done the pruning, the fertilizer, etc. I might give up if this next hard pruning doesn't do anything, and re-use the 15 gallon pot on one of the better rose plants.

One of my first plants was a Secret, produced beautiful, heavenly flowers with wonderful scent, so I would vote for it anytime for anyone.

Francis Meilland post/pictures

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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)

I've done it too.

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wirosarian_z4b_WI

I've received bare root roses that I soaked in water for 3+ weeks waiting for the weather to cooperate for planting, no problem. This topic was discussed in another GW thread a few years back & numerous other people had done similar holding times with no problems.

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rosecanadian

Paradise Found is a my favorite rose. It's my avatar picture. The fragrance is incredible, and so unique. I can't wait to hear what you think of its fragrance!!!!

Carol

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Holly Kline

I LOVE Hypnotized! It has some trouble recovering from winter temps (I'm in 7a). Good luck!

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