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I tried a number of things and found they were susceptible to beta-cyfluthrin and Confidor. In fact they were susceptible to other pyrethroids too but I try to use the more affordable ones as well as the ones more gentle on the plants. Some others can burn the leaves especially in hot weather. I also found that spraying the roses alone was not enough. The chrysanthemum and heliotrope hedges had to be sprayed as well otherwise they can act as reservoir for the thrips.
Hi Carol do you grow Evelyn? It is a huge rose in zone 10 but could be just the right vigor for you. My favourite Austin fragrances are Evelyn and Munstead Wood. Munstead Wood smells like Frederic Mistral and Black Boy. Evelyn has a very nice and strong yet soft rose perfume. No myrrh tones which so many of the Austins do have and unfortunately does not agree with my nose.
My alba meid's are tough as nails and would do fine in containers. I use them in some spots that are worse than containers, I'm sure :D Some of mine get insane root competition from large trees, so that's about as bad as it gets.
They won't get as big as they can get, naturally, but that's what you want for container plants. They'll still send long arms out, so you'll need little trellises unless you want them spilling out over the container a fair bit.
Love your choices (Lady of Shalott etc.). Looks like you're doing some bouquet planning.
Aside from climate restrictions on the one to add --- 'Tiffany' would fit right in with the other yellow based pink/peaches. 'Secret' not so much. IMO. I grow both and 'Secret' is, well, she is distinct. I think she would be a jarring note. I read that 'Francis Meilland' fades to white. One this pale may be difficult to place but I think it would make the bed more interesting. I put photos of each on my desktop and arranged. I cast my vote for FM.
My Francis Meilland is beautiful, when it blooms, but it is a very stingy bloomer in my little micro-climate on Oahu (full sun, windy, rain in the evening). It grew to 7 feet in a year, but I've only had 4 or 5 blooms from it, have done the pruning, the fertilizer, etc. I might give up if this next hard pruning doesn't do anything, and re-use the 15 gallon pot on one of the better rose plants.
One of my first plants was a Secret, produced beautiful, heavenly flowers with wonderful scent, so I would vote for it anytime for anyone.
I've received bare root roses that I soaked in water for 3+ weeks waiting for the weather to cooperate for planting, no problem. This topic was discussed in another GW thread a few years back & numerous other people had done similar holding times with no problems.
I once saw a show about how they 'make' florist roses. It was that 'how it's made' show. The roses are grown in a greenhouse. They are constantly fed fertilizer (probably a miracle gro type) through irrigation. The workers wear hazmat suits and spray them constantly. They are all about 8 feet tall when they cut them. It was quite interesting, but also informative as to why these roses, for the most part, would not do well in a garden.
So it's own-root with only one cane. I wouldn't be concerned about the black patch at the pruning cut. After it makes two or three new basal canes, I would consider taking down the old cane to below the patch of dead bark with slits.
Thanks! I will hope for new basals.