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I have ordered from both Burlington Roses and Roses Unlimited. Both had nice band size roses. I really can't say enough good things about Burlington, always great plants, great price and great service.

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phylis(9b CA)

Reviews for Burlington Roses. You'll have to email Burling to request a catalog. I hope shipping to NY is not too bad for you noviceatgardening.

http://forums2.gardenweb.com/discussions/1706564/burlington-rose-nursery-california

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henry_kuska

kingcobbtx9b, please comment on my statement/suggestion that: "Look to see if you have mycorrhizal fungi attached to your roots. If so, fine, work on other aspects of rose gardening. If they are not there investigate why as their presence will benefit your roses.".

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Marlorena-z8 England- stated: " ...when you consider the millions of roses planted all down the centuries without it... and all over the world... yet all of a sudden, this is a must have...."

H.Kuska comment: Yes, and those growers were using what we now call "organic methods". i.e. for centuries rose growers did not use synthetic fungicides and synthetic fertilizers. One of my favorite comments is that many rose growers now are attempting to grow roses in what I describe as soil that resembles a chemical dump.

Tebuconazole appears to be the "IN" fungicide for many of the chemically orientated rose growers. Yet, tebuconazole is a known potent inhibitor of strigolactone biosynthesis https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/jpestics/38/3/38_D13-011/_html

For further information about strigolactone biosynthesis see: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1369526614000867

"Strigolactones (SLs) are plant hormones that regulate shoot branching as well as known as root-derived signals for parasitic and symbiotic interactions."

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    Bookmark   April 9, 2015 at 8:02AM
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kingcobbtx9b

Yes I agree with that completely. My comment about Placebo effect was merely meaning that most established gardens should have their own already unless of course there is an issue. If you don't have it naturally adding it without correcting the issue isn't going to do you any good.

1 Like    Bookmark   April 9, 2015 at 8:16AM
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jkellydallas(8a)

Most of my roses started leafing out in February and then got two rude snows in March. The early leaves were damaged and got black spot. They have been turning yellow and falling off if I didn't pull them off myself.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 10:38PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

In climates where roses carry leaves through the winter, there will be some natural shedding of senile leaves in spring. Usually when a leaf turns uniform bright yellow, or yellow mottled green, it's just because the rose has decided to kill it off. Crowded or heavily shaded leaves may be dropped in summer. I doubt you can have blackspot without black spots.

    Bookmark   April 9, 2015 at 6:28AM
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mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9

It is looking great! Can't wait to see the blooms on it!

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 7:42PM
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rosecanadian

Ooooh!!!! A standard Mary Rose - gah!!! I can't wait to see it. But I agree with the others - amazing transformation in a short amount of time.

Carol

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 11:57PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Things very slow here this year also... Not just roses but other shrubs, etc...Leaf buds swelled here that's it....

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 4:25PM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

My roses are so late, too! I'm only seeing teeny buds on Cl Pompon de Paris, which is my first bloom of the season. That's right, and I expect to see more buds soon, but it's just late.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 9:14PM
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Beth9116 zone 8a TX

Since there is a single bloom at the end of the stem with no other signs of growth on that stem should I leave the stem after cutting off the bloom or should I cut the stem back to where some growth is. I've never had a HT.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 7:27PM
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Verdi Guy

Beth,

Mr. Lincoln is a beast. I have two growing in containers and last year the roses were taller than I am, and I'm 6'2". Hence the name as ole Abe was 6'5". :-)

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 8:55PM
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floridarosez9

Oh, goody. Maybe I'll get mine soon. I've emailed them twice and not received a response, which is unusual for them.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 7:44PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Be patient, I know they are very busy right now, but they do try to respond to every email ASAP.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 8:03PM
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sue_f

Oh, what a good idea! I am in the mountains of Southern California - about 5500 feet elevation and my Trumpeter Rose does beautifully in a large container.. Thanks for helping.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 5:43PM
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sue_f

Jackie, Thanks for the advice. I found a couple of McGredy roses for sale on line, but I they didn't seem to be quite what I was looking for.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 5:46PM
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seil zone 6b MI

We would need more information and a picture to be able to say what might be wrong. Where are you located?

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 3:15PM
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amanda

Sorry the pic.never loaded. Here one of the peach drift

the apricot drift

JFK

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 5:42PM
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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

I would do it sooner rather than wait. A dormant rose will not suffer from transplant as much as one with leaves on it. A tip is to have the new spot or pot ready before you dig it up. You may have to cut back the top of the rose to get it dug up easily. Once you see the size of the rootball, you can tell how much you may need to cut back. More roots, more top you can keep. Depending on how long your Julia Child has been in the ground, and what type of root stock it's on, you will probably have to cut some roots to get it out.

I had to dig up a bunch of roses last year because of construction in my yard. Some of the larger ones didn't make it. But I had to dig them up when it was warmer and I don't think I cut back enough.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 4:46AM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Sam, good idea to try to balance the root ball to the plant’s above ground material. I like the tarp idea too. Thanks.

Buford, This weekend, looks like it will be the perfect opportunity. We’re finally going to get four days in a row of 50s and 60s weather. Sorry you lost some of your roses. I guess I’d rather cut back, even a lot, than lose the rose. Thank you.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 5:24PM
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'Tpooh Ladie

I've purchased my seeds on Aliexpress the onl thing i don't like is freezing the seeds before growing... it's a bummer to wait

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 3:32PM
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nummykitchen

Oh wow, just read why they discontinued offering Osiria at Palatine, I will count myself lucky since I purchased one Nov. 2013. Mine gives HUGE blooms and is more vigorous in my garden than I expected. I'm seeing little red leafbuds popping out so with fingers crossed I'd say it made it through our horrible Michigan winter.

Here are some bloom pics from last summer.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 3:57PM
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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)

annofpa: I kept my tree roses in about 15 gallon insulated pots. I start my regular potted roses depending on their size in black nursery pots or whatever is available lol. If they are grafted plants I put them in 7.5 gallon size then pot up from there as needed. Ideally, I try to get the roses potted on into large insulated pots to prevent the roots from getting too hot here. I have a hand truck that I use to move pots. Its the best thing I ever bought dh so I could steal it and use it for plants lol :D

~sjn

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 2:25PM
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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

I also picked up CI in one of my body bag orgies. I also just bought a Mr. Lincoln as a replacement for one that died, it's my husband's favorite. So far all of my bagged roses are doing fine. Even the JFK one I bought that was in rough shape. I think getting them watered and potted right away is a key. I've even soaked them in the bag and left them like that for a bit.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 3:00PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a

Watering every 3 - 4 days may have washed out most of that fertilizer by now. You could do fish emulsion at half-strength once a week. Osmocote works well in pots too.

BUT: have they bloomed yet? If not, then water is sufficient enough for now (they are happily growing roots, and they need roots before blooms), fertilize after the first bloom cycle.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 12:52PM
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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)

I alternate between stuff like fish fertilizer and compost teas and stuff like MG and MG bloom boosters etc. I have tons of brugmansia which are very heavy feeders and will eat up anything I can throw at them. I do not mix up separate batches so whatever I am feeding them, I just do the same for all the other stuff too. I have potted roses that get quite a bit of fertilizer and I have not had any problems. I use plastic pots not clay and they get watered several times between fertilizer applications. Also, make sure to never fertilize a dry pot. Always water about a half hour before you fertilize. I killed a rose many years ago by putting fertilizer on a very dry rose lol. Completely fried it!! Never forgot that lesson.

~sjn

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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

In this photo, the Julia Child roses and the peonies (pretty well over blooming and not looking good) are planted on a fairly steep slope, looking down our front sidewalk. The peonies were planted a year before the roses, and as Julia grew bigger, the peonies got more trapped. Now they bloom beautifully, and a short while after they are done, the plants get mildewy from poor air circulation due to gigantic Julia. None of roses ever get mildew, but this example does show how the peonies should be planted in front of the roses. That's not how things worked out here. The roses do wonderfully well in this bed, though. Diane

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 11:31AM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I'd say it depends on how close together they are going to be, and whether you place the peony in front, beside, or behind the rose depends on how tall the rose gets.

Here you can see a nearly finished blooming white peony (bottom right corner of pic) next to a red Eutin floribunda--both about the same size, although the Eutin will get somewhat taller as the summer goes by. That peony and rose are about 3 feet apart. There is also a short spreading mini rose is growing in front of that peony; it is about 1.5 ft away from the peony.

If you look down at the end of that bed, appearing to lean over the driveway (it doesn't really), there is another peony, done blooming. To the left of it is the pink Pomponell rose bush. They are about 3 ft apart also, and as the summer goes by, the Pomponel will grow taller than the peony, although at peony blooming time they are roughly the same size.

Both the peonies are placed so that they get plenty of air space and therefore don't mildew, but the rose bushes next to them and growing larger as the season progresses help mask them a bit, drawing attention to the blooming rose rather than the bloomless peony. Since my peonies do not mildew, they look like nice green bushes most of the summer, although they can get a bit ratty looking in autumn--but I just start trimming them back then.

Hope that helps.

Kate

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 2:17PM
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