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msdorkgirl(11)

Do you have pictures of it bloomed out before? The trunk is very distinctive and if growth was always at the top part of the crown it might be a tree rose.

Was it a bush from ground up?

Like everyone says, if you don't want to shovel prune it, I would water but don't actively think about it or stare at it for the next month, month and a half. Good luck.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 11:23AM
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keithog

No I don't unfortunately, but all the growth actually were at the top when it used to grow, then from the bottom like the average rose. I was actually thinking it could of been a tree rose, but I'm just not sure now, not an expert lol. I asked my mum if she knew what kind it was as she brought it, but she's not sure either. Yeah, what I'll do is just leave it and keep watering everyday and see what happens in a few months, I think that's all I can do really now. If it doesn't get back to how it was and it doesn't look right, I'll probably yank it up and replace it.

1 Like    Bookmark     June 17, 2015 at 9:14AM
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decobug(z6a Idaho SW)

Hi Diane,

This is a list of my current roses:

http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=3.4702&tab=2&frmt=1&scp=0&order=1&qn=0&qc=3d

It has been whittled down from about 250 to 70 over the past 10 years.

The other 3 thousand photos I have posted on HMF are rose pics from my garden, pics from rose gardens on the west coast and pics from nurseries. Such as this one from my garden:

http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.85217

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 10:24PM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

Love Song is beautiful and such a nice name for the rose for your mom. I think the name is important for a memorial rose.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 10:53PM Thanked by decobug
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Beth zone 8a Dallas, TX

Just a funny note. I sent an email to the production manager for that news show. I explained their information error and suggested they vet their interviewees a little more closely. Someone responded and said they received a record number of complaints from gardeners and garden clubs all over the area pointing out their misinformation.

They added a link in their written article pointing to the correct RRD information. It is too much to ask I guess that they simply take the video off their website.

As to the botanic gardens, no one there will return a phone call on the matter.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 4:54PM
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fig_insanity Z7a E TN

Good for you, Beth. You beat me to it, lol. I'm still wondering how this guy can claim with a straight face to be a horticulturist. Even my MECHANIC, who has exactly one KO rose knows more about RRD. I'm not a bit surprised they got complaints.

John

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 10:19PM
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seil zone 6b MI

You have buried the grafts on them so they are probably just new growth coming up from the graft. That's GOOD! Leave them alone.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 8:36PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Roserich,

Bumping this up so that maybe you'll notice it.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 4:07PM
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roserich

Thanks for all the helpful responses. Michael, good to see you again. Ann, the leaves are turning green. I read your E book and I would really like to catch any RRD early, if possible. The top growth is flexible but I wouldn't call it rubbery. All the rapid growth in several roses has had me spooked.

I rogued out a rose and took in some canes to the UT extension. They said it "appeared to be RRD" but no mites were present and they didn't have a test to diagnose it. Just confirmed that it had similar symptoms. I was upset that I paid $25. If it didnt show symptoms of RRD I wouldn't have temoved it.

Thanks again! Susan

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 7:33PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I'm in zone 6 and I keep my standards in pots. They get wrapped in burlap and stored inside my shed for winter. An insulated but unheated garage works best though. Find a really nice big pot and put it in that. You can still put the pot in that bed for the summer but you'll be able to turn it from time to time to keep the growth more even and it will be easier to winter over.

1 Like    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 8:58AM Thanked by kivigrove
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kivigrove

Thank you, seil for your suggestions! Unfortunately I do not have a shed or a garage though :(

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 7:15PM
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jazzmom516(Zone 7 LI, NY)

I was in a local nursery and saw Anna's Promise, there is definitely a fragrance from the rose. I nominate for orange rose and fragrant the floribunda 'Easy Does It'.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 3:18PM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

'Lady Emma Hamilton' is quite orange, and quite fragrant.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 5:55PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Soluble materials, including most manufactured fertilizers, will get through to some extent. Water enough to mostly dissolve them and then come back later with more water. I do it this way, although my mulch is not 4" deep.

Most organic fertilizers have to be in contact with soil bacteria to release the nitrogen. Blood and poultry manure contain some soluble urea, but the part of the N that is in protein form will not break down for a long time. Eventually it will get to the mulch/soil interface.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 10:56AM Thanked by Gary
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jerijen(Zone 10)

A strong stream of water from a hose will wash your fertilizers down to soil level where they should work just fine.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 5:07PM Thanked by Gary
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msdorkgirl(11)

Yep, that's a sucker.

Your Wayside order looks better than mine, cross my fingers it will green up like yours.

1 Like    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 1:24PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Yes. Pull back the mulch and rip that growth off right where it emerges from the cane. The idea is to catch any dormant eyes that surround it.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 5:04PM
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jazzmom516(Zone 7 LI, NY)

I have had 'Tamora 'for many years and its in the front of my rose garden. I concur that it does stay short. To the left next to it with the hint of yellow bud sticking out is my 'Julia Child' for comparison of size.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 3:22PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I can't say how Austins will grow in California, but here in the heartland, there are any number of shorter Austins to pick from. Just this morning I was admiring Munstead Wood and Molineux in the back garden--both about 3 ft tall, may grow another half-foot to foot at most by the end of summer. I was thinking how they were just the right size for my gardens.

Austin has several recent roses in the same range--Princess Alexandra of Kent and Boscobel and others, for instance.

Tamara (above) is looking good!

Kate

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 3:29PM
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jacqueline9CA

Campanula - it is true that over 100 years ago they planted thousands of Mme Caroline Testout roses in Portland, I think they were planted along the main streets. I do recall somewhere reading a couple of years ago that a rose person had found several remaining plants from the original plantings, still alive and blooming.

Jackie

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 7:30AM
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Joe Moose, Zone 9A

I am now wanting to plan a trip sometime in the future... :D

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 2:07PM
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thorngrower sw. ont. z5

Quadra......

    Bookmark     June 13, 2015 at 10:43AM
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Nessdizzle 5b North East

The garage will be painted a deep charcoal gray so I can get away with almost any color really...I will def go for the trellis' to accommodate the climbers id center under window and let go up and around. I love all the roses that have been mentioned but I cant seem to find any for sale online they're all sold out??

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 1:48PM
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Holly Kline

Whoo! You got a good one. Mine reverted to Dr. Huey after the last two winters.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 10:35AM
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Joe Moose, Zone 9A

Awesome!

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 1:45PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I'd guess your rose bushes have been visited by the same rose slugs (sawfly larvae) that tend to attack rose bushes every late spring/early summer. This is usually a temporary problem--then the good predator bugs come along and gobble up the rose slugs, and there is no more problem.

However, the bush is often left with ugly damaged leaves. I would just pluck off the worst looking ones, and then wait patiently for the bush to produce new leaves (followed by buds and then blooms).

In the future, it would help if you checked the bushes in the late spring/early summer for tiny, tiny green wormlike things--usually on the underside of the leaves. When they are present, squish them. That will keep them somewhat under control until the good predator bugs arrive a couple weeks later.

As for the not flowering well problem, that is just part of the normal bloom cycle of any rose. A rose blooms for a couple weeks, then the blooms deteriorate (turn brown) and fall off, then the bush rests and renews itself, then it starts blooming again. Most roses go through several bloom cycles per season.

When the blooms deteriorate, the bush will look better if you deadhead it (pick of the brown old blooms). Deadheading sometimes encourages the bush to begin blooming sooner also.

Hope that helps.

Kate

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 12:50PM
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nicholas_delo

This is definitely only on the oldest, lowest leaves.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 11:11AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Give it epsom salts then, 1/4 cup now and maybe one more dose this season. But do check the pH, as it may offer a long-term solution to Fe, Mg, and Mn problems.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 11:52AM
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