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Love your choices (Lady of Shalott etc.). Looks like you're doing some bouquet planning.
Aside from climate restrictions on the one to add --- 'Tiffany' would fit right in with the other yellow based pink/peaches. 'Secret' not so much. IMO. I grow both and 'Secret' is, well, she is distinct. I think she would be a jarring note. I read that 'Francis Meilland' fades to white. One this pale may be difficult to place but I think it would make the bed more interesting. I put photos of each on my desktop and arranged. I cast my vote for FM.

My Francis Meilland is beautiful, when it blooms, but it is a very stingy bloomer in my little micro-climate on Oahu (full sun, windy, rain in the evening). It grew to 7 feet in a year, but I've only had 4 or 5 blooms from it, have done the pruning, the fertilizer, etc. I might give up if this next hard pruning doesn't do anything, and re-use the 15 gallon pot on one of the better rose plants.
One of my first plants was a Secret, produced beautiful, heavenly flowers with wonderful scent, so I would vote for it anytime for anyone.

I've received bare root roses that I soaked in water for 3+ weeks waiting for the weather to cooperate for planting, no problem. This topic was discussed in another GW thread a few years back & numerous other people had done similar holding times with no problems.




I once saw a show about how they 'make' florist roses. It was that 'how it's made' show. The roses are grown in a greenhouse. They are constantly fed fertilizer (probably a miracle gro type) through irrigation. The workers wear hazmat suits and spray them constantly. They are all about 8 feet tall when they cut them. It was quite interesting, but also informative as to why these roses, for the most part, would not do well in a garden.


FYI the 2g pots are on sale at HD for $8. At the apt complex we are pulling out our side bank lawns (not just not watering them) to put back some color at the top we are doing salvias and pops of Iceberg (mostly white but once I find a deal on brilliant pink those too)

Congratulations on your new rose! Looks totally rescuable! I would NOT bare root it, or trim it at all until it recovers a bit - it needs all of the energy from leaves and canes it can get, and it needs its little feeder roots which would be destroyed by bare rooting. I would dig a hole the entire pot sized root ball it has now can fit in, plant it in the ground (or in a very large pot with potting soil if you cannot put it into the ground). I would just cut off the dead bits right now, and give it plenty of water (no food, no sprays). I would put some sort of shade cloth over it for a week or two.Then it will just sit there for a while, hopefully growing more roots. When it starts to put out new growth, after a few weeks, you can feed it gently. I see no reason why it would not recover completely and grow.
Jackie

I agree with everything Jackie said. If you decide to repot it instead of planting it in the ground do not use "grit", use a good quality potting soil. A gritty soil will not hold enough moisture and what this plant needs most right now is water. Go with a bigger pot with good drainage holes, good potting soil, keep it well watered but not soggy and find it some shade, particularly for the hottest part of the day.


Yes, you still need to keep the proper ratio for each fungicide. If you are great at math, you can probably mix them in one container at one time. I would have to use seil's method. I have enough trouble figuring out how to mix one. I used to have a certain measuring cup and marks on my sprayer and now I'm using a different product and I have to start from scratch....







Well I have yet to plant mine. I was hoping this weekend but the forecast is thunderstorm. Yikes...
How often can u fertilize with rose tone/ organic?