22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

Well I have yet to plant mine. I was hoping this weekend but the forecast is thunderstorm. Yikes...

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hoganjr

How often can u fertilize with rose tone/ organic?

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irisgal_z9

Love your choices (Lady of Shalott etc.). Looks like you're doing some bouquet planning.

Aside from climate restrictions on the one to add --- 'Tiffany' would fit right in with the other yellow based pink/peaches. 'Secret' not so much. IMO. I grow both and 'Secret' is, well, she is distinct. I think she would be a jarring note. I read that 'Francis Meilland' fades to white. One this pale may be difficult to place but I think it would make the bed more interesting. I put photos of each on my desktop and arranged. I cast my vote for FM.

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msdorkgirl(11)

My Francis Meilland is beautiful, when it blooms, but it is a very stingy bloomer in my little micro-climate on Oahu (full sun, windy, rain in the evening). It grew to 7 feet in a year, but I've only had 4 or 5 blooms from it, have done the pruning, the fertilizer, etc. I might give up if this next hard pruning doesn't do anything, and re-use the 15 gallon pot on one of the better rose plants.

One of my first plants was a Secret, produced beautiful, heavenly flowers with wonderful scent, so I would vote for it anytime for anyone.

Francis Meilland post/pictures

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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)

I've done it too.

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wirosarian_z4b_WI

I've received bare root roses that I soaked in water for 3+ weeks waiting for the weather to cooperate for planting, no problem. This topic was discussed in another GW thread a few years back & numerous other people had done similar holding times with no problems.

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rosecanadian

Paradise Found is a my favorite rose. It's my avatar picture. The fragrance is incredible, and so unique. I can't wait to hear what you think of its fragrance!!!!

Carol

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Holly Kline

I LOVE Hypnotized! It has some trouble recovering from winter temps (I'm in 7a). Good luck!

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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

I went to HD for parts today.... Came home with 20 salvias (3 for $12g and 3 2g icebergs ($8). Oops I forgot the other things I went for so I will go back tomorrow..... Thankfully these are for our lawn replacement project for work and not my yard.

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summersrhythm_z6a

I love to ride my little Ruckus (scooter) to Lowe's all the time, always can find something there at garden center. Good finding!

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kublakan

Compared to the hardened roses that I've bought on Dr. Huey, this is a normal occurrence for an older bush. It always amazes me when basal breaks shoot from old wood like this.

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

Good to hear, Jasmine. :) Now the eartworms will make manure too.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

mariannese:

Alfalfa is known as lucerne in some European languages. Probably commonly used in Sweden as horse feed.

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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

I once saw a show about how they 'make' florist roses. It was that 'how it's made' show. The roses are grown in a greenhouse. They are constantly fed fertilizer (probably a miracle gro type) through irrigation. The workers wear hazmat suits and spray them constantly. They are all about 8 feet tall when they cut them. It was quite interesting, but also informative as to why these roses, for the most part, would not do well in a garden.

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ozmelodye(Z10 S-E Australia)

Wirosarian, I saw the prices of those monster(literally!) roses and all I could think of was the number of rose plants I could buy for the prices quoted! :-)

Melodye

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steve_gw

My bushes are always singles especially the first flush...

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sara_ann-z6bok

That's interesting Steve. I guess it can be one or the other. Most of my hybrid teas are mostly one bloom per stem with a few clusters here and there..

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seil zone 6b MI

Buford is right. When the weather conditions are right PM will flourish. Hot humid muggy days with cooler nights seems to be the right conditions here.

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sidos_house

I've never had it before but I do this year.

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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

FYI the 2g pots are on sale at HD for $8. At the apt complex we are pulling out our side bank lawns (not just not watering them) to put back some color at the top we are doing salvias and pops of Iceberg (mostly white but once I find a deal on brilliant pink those too)

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

Hi Kippy. At your suggestion, I planted Santa Babara Mexican Sage along with the Icebergs. I will post photos when they mature. They are only about 5 inches tall now. I think they will look great together.

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jacqueline9CA

Congratulations on your new rose! Looks totally rescuable! I would NOT bare root it, or trim it at all until it recovers a bit - it needs all of the energy from leaves and canes it can get, and it needs its little feeder roots which would be destroyed by bare rooting. I would dig a hole the entire pot sized root ball it has now can fit in, plant it in the ground (or in a very large pot with potting soil if you cannot put it into the ground). I would just cut off the dead bits right now, and give it plenty of water (no food, no sprays). I would put some sort of shade cloth over it for a week or two.Then it will just sit there for a while, hopefully growing more roots. When it starts to put out new growth, after a few weeks, you can feed it gently. I see no reason why it would not recover completely and grow.

Jackie

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seil zone 6b MI

I agree with everything Jackie said. If you decide to repot it instead of planting it in the ground do not use "grit", use a good quality potting soil. A gritty soil will not hold enough moisture and what this plant needs most right now is water. Go with a bigger pot with good drainage holes, good potting soil, keep it well watered but not soggy and find it some shade, particularly for the hottest part of the day.

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seil zone 6b MI

I've never mixed two fungicides together but I would think that if you are mixing each separately at the proper ratio and then mixing the two together they would be OK.

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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

Yes, you still need to keep the proper ratio for each fungicide. If you are great at math, you can probably mix them in one container at one time. I would have to use seil's method. I have enough trouble figuring out how to mix one. I used to have a certain measuring cup and marks on my sprayer and now I'm using a different product and I have to start from scratch....

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