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seil zone 6b MI

With my space constraints if I did that I'd never be able to plant another rose! I reuse holes all the time. I've never noticed any problem in doing so. I reuse pots and potting soils too. Same thing...no problems.

    Bookmark   July 20, 2014 at 12:16PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I reuse holes too... I figure if one rose grew well so would another one...

    Bookmark   July 21, 2014 at 12:46PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Are you sure you don't have fig beetles? I have seen them eat rose blooms?

How big are they? What color are they?

    Bookmark   July 20, 2014 at 4:23PM
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roseseek

I've seen Hoplia Beetles and Fuller Rose Weevils here but in the forty-five years I've lived in and around Los Angeles, never have I encountered a Japanese Beetle. Thank heavens! Fortunately, both of the former are fairly cyclical. Some years I seen virtually none, others they are obviously present, but never to the extent Japanese Beetles are elsewhere in the country. I don't do anything about them other than to squash them by fingers. Kim

    Bookmark   July 21, 2014 at 2:23AM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

It sounds like the wrong plant in the wrong place. Harison's Yellow is at its best given a lot of space to spread out and make a good clump. It's nature is to be leggy and spread out, and mass makes it look better.

It is extremely unlikely that you will kill it by hard pruning. However, it won't bloom next year.

    Bookmark   July 20, 2014 at 11:24PM
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seil zone 6b MI

It sounds like a once blooming rose. They only bloom on old wood. Usually those are pruned only AFTER they have bloomed out for the current season. However, if it hasn't bloomed yet and you don't see any buds forming on it yet it may not bloom this season so pruning it now should be fine. It could be that this past winter killed off the year old wood that would have bloomed this season. It was a very nasty winter.

Take out any dead wood and cut it down to the height you want then leave it alone to grow back new wood that should bloom next year. Yes, keep it watered and fertilize it. If you have any pictures from last years bloom post them and maybe we can ID it for you.

    Bookmark   July 20, 2014 at 12:24PM
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CEFreeman(DC/MD Burbs 7B)

Yes, I think it's a one bloomer.
I didn't deadhead this year, so it's stopped.
I'll trim the baby down and see what happens.
Thanks for the suggestions!

    Bookmark   July 20, 2014 at 10:44PM
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jardineratx(zone 8, Texas)

I also have had very good results from my Climbing Pinkie....never has disease of any kind.
Molly

    Bookmark   July 20, 2014 at 1:33PM
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boncrow66

Thanks Seil, it certainly has been a learning experience. I watched Paul Zimmermans video on you tube in training climbers and it was very informative so I hope it works out like it's supposed to lol.
Molly I would love to see pics of your pinkies.

    Bookmark   July 20, 2014 at 10:44PM
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seil zone 6b MI

There could be any number of reasons why that first bloom is skimpy. It's too new a plant to decide yet if it's a mislabel or not.

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 6:18PM
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JohnButler(6)

Well I now have some good size blooms coming along, as shown in the pictures below. But I also have another question, what could be causing the yellow leaves on the plant?

I know over/under watering could be happening although I know it is not under watering. And also I read it could be because of light not getting to those leaves due to the leaves at the top of the bush.

I know the rose is doing well due to all of the new blooms and growth going on, just not near the bottom.

Thanks

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    Bookmark   July 20, 2014 at 9:08PM
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buford(7 NE GA)

I have heard the 'acidic clay soil means no Dr. Huey' but I can attest that the Dr. Does quite well here in our red acidic clay. Too well, in fact.

    Bookmark   July 20, 2014 at 3:08PM
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the_morden_man((Z4-Z5) Ontario, Canada)

Buford,

Huey will do well enough in acidic clay, but my real concern is that it is not very suitable to colder climates. It will typically decline rapidly or die off altogether in 3 years up here. I can't really say how Huey performs in US zone 6b long term as I have no experience in such a scenario, but I do know that multiflora will not have any cold related issues and would probably be better suited overall when you add acidic clay into the mix.

    Bookmark   July 20, 2014 at 9:06PM
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wcthomas

Thank you Frances for the detailed instructions on planting bands. I just ordered two bands from Rouge Valley for delivery next week.

If I understand correctly, I will pot these bands up into one gallon containers, keep them watered and fertilized, and set them outdoors in a sunny location until October. Then bury the potted plants in my garden, mulch the first several inches, and leave them through winter. Come spring I can dig up them up, remove the pot, and transplant into their final location.

I also have a home in central NJ, so I'll plant one there and one here at my Virginia home.

Tom

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 3:07PM
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frances_in_nj(z6 NJ)

You are very welcome, Tom! Your understanding is correct. As I said, I have used this approach for many years and never lost a little rose yet! I hope it'll all work out as well for you. Please send us an update in spring. If you are inclined to take pictures, I'd love to see photos of your Old Ports next year!

All best,

Frances

    Bookmark   July 20, 2014 at 4:05PM
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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Very pretty!!!

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 2:51PM
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martinca_gw

Ooh!!!!! Lovely.

    Bookmark   July 20, 2014 at 12:42AM
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socks

Roseseek, there WAS a diesel vehicle idling by the bush this week!!! I suppose if the leaves are sticky, they can pick up the exhaust.

There was a vinca bush near the roses that was horribly infested with...what, aphids, white flies? When I yanked it I noticed stuff flying in the air, gnats or dusty stuff, not sure. Left a greasy mark on the pavement it had grown over. I sprayed the rose bush with water which didn't do much unless I rubbed the wet leaf between my fingers. It's on the old growth, not the newer growth. We'll see how it goes now that the vinca is gone.

Thanks everyone.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 3:23PM
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roseseek

It's been a bad year for white fly here, too. Getting rid of the vinca should help relieve the water stress caused by the competition and eliminate their habitiat. I would turn on the hose to a trickle and wash all the yuck off the rose foliage. It will rehydrate the rose and help prevent the diesel from destroying those leaves. If you put down your fertilizer before you wash the foliage, you can kill two birds with the same stone...cleaning the foliage and watering in the food. Good luck! I'm glad it appears it was something simple. Kim

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 9:57PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Zack is right, that's the good Doctor and if you don't take him out, right down to below the ground, he will eventually take over and destroy your rose.

Follow the cane(s) down to the ground and then dig the soil off of them and find out where they connect to the roots. At that point you want to RIP OFF the canes. Yank down and away HARD. Don't just cut them back because they will just grow right back again. You need to destroy the growth node so it will not send up another shoot.

    Bookmark   June 10, 2014 at 12:58PM
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FunRose

Thanks for the replies. I did cut it off but I didn't do it right to the root. I will try tomorrow to get down to the root.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 8:46PM
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nastarana(5a)

I think I remember seeing 'Mirandy' being sold in body bags last spring. I have never grown it, so I don't know if the picture resembles it. The picture does not look like Mr. Lincoln to me.

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 7:03PM
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iris_gal(z9 CA)

Your 2nd noid reminds me of The Generous Gardener.

Here is a link that might be useful: The Generous Gardener at HMF

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 1:52AM
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Tounement of roses.....the best I have so far
Posted by tigerloveroses July 18, 2014
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tigerloveroses

Also,for an hybrid tea,it has clusters of blooms...I'm a novice rose grower,and many of the roses I bought are so finicky! But this one si outstanding.event the jappenease beetle hordes stay away from it!

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 12:11AM
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iris_gal(z9 CA)

I hear you Jim. One worthy pic with the old 3mp Olympic.

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 1:43AM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Bloom does look nice!

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 9:46AM
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tigerloveroses

Thx y'all :)

    Bookmark   July 19, 2014 at 12:13AM
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Molineux(6b)

Very beautiful. What is the fragrance like?

    Bookmark   July 17, 2014 at 6:28PM
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lynnette

I know that fragrance is important to gardeners, but keep in mind that the two weakest genes in the roses are the deep red and the fragrance one. Pirouette does have a "rose smell" but it isn't strong. So if you breed a beautiful deep, velvety red with a Damask fragrance, you will have a shrub that will cause you more problems then say a pink one. Papa Meilland is a good example. The old father desperately wanted to breed a top red rose and when he was dying, his son went into the fields to try and find any flower that would make his father think it was a good one. He picked a bloom from a sad looking shrub with lots of BS on it but had a perfect flower on it. He took it in and showed it to his father who got excited because he said it was perfect. What shall you call the rose he asked his son, and his son replied Papa Meilland.

    Bookmark   July 18, 2014 at 10:31PM
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