22,152 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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I don't grow it, but I've heard BLUE FOR YOU can get quite tall, 6'7" as per HMF.

Here is a link that might be useful: Blue for You on HMF

Thanks, Jasminerose4u. That person is in Japan and states the rose gets between 3' and 6' 7". I guess this is another reason to just plant and see.

The poor tiny band rose that got shaken out of its pot in the box managed to pull through as dry as it had been. There was no plastic bag or anything to protect it and it looked like all the roots were dried to death. The stem was still green so I did what Kim said and soaked it and then planted it in the best soil I had. It was slow to go and lost the smallest cane, but it lived and now is growing right along.

I've heard of trees with cones of mulch too high on the trunk getting rot and fungus and wondered will higher air temperatures do this to roses? Is it two different situations entirely?

I do mound my bare-root roses,but I had problems in the past one year with awful disease and fungus,so now I use pieces of styrofoam and wine corks to surround the baby canes, held in place with sticks, mulch,dirt,etc,in order that only in-organic material is in direct contact with the canes.

Thank you kittymoonbeam! I went there yesterday and was amazed at the HUGE array of cultivars available. It was like the olden days (10 or 15 years ago), when roses were a lot more popular. Great prices, too.

Thanks again!

It was a lucky find and I'm happy you were able to enjoy some rose shopping. I thought the prices were good for the size of the plants. I agree with you that it reminds me of the old days and I was enjoying that part of it. So different than modern garden centers with recorded bird songs and dog sweaters. Not that dog sweaters are a bad thing, but I like more plants and seeds rather than other things taking their place in the store.

Remember when you pushed the carts on gravel and through puddles. I appreciate the cement paths but the old crunchy sound of the wheels on the gravel was fun too.
I remember our old local nursery and when the wife of the big name car dealership would come in she would bring 2 gardeners to follow along behind her with carts so she wouldn't have to handle the plants. She hated the gravel because of her nice shoes. I still remember her lavender tinted white hair. I also remember the Crystal Cathedral family coming in and I got to see one of their private gardens once on a plant delivery. That garden was peaceful and elegant and very grand with a large marble angel watching over it all. I heard that that property was divided up into pieces after it was sold and it made me sad to think that amazing garden is gone.

"Growing good roses" by Clayton Reddell, a book I've loved reading lately says the hole only needs to be max. 18" because the roots run more outward and than down so I would think a max 2 feet would be fine.

I order roses on fortuniana from Cool Roses, Nelson 's Roses and K&M roses and I've never paid more than $30.

I'd love to know what roses you are having great luck with in full sun here. Most of mine (David Austin) have been Grown in pots in late day shade until this past week when I planted several of them in the ground in full sun. I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

There's the issue of the roots and then there's the issue of the nematodes.

It's been so long since I did my nematode research that I don't remember now how DEEP nematodes go.

I specifically remember the statement that the nematodes can travel 3 feet in any lateral direction over the course of a year which meant that in order to have a nematode free bed, there must be an exclusion zone of 3 feet (no plants) in all directions around the bed or the potential exists for the nematodes to reinfect the bed.

But I don't remember how deep they travel. I'm sorry. Hopefully you can find that information.

As for the roots themselves, own root rose roots vary while grafted rose roots depend on the root stock used. Some root stocks have tap roots and others have significant branching. If the grafted root stock is known, then the sort of roots to expect can be determined. For example, Fortuniana is a relatively shallow rooted root stock.

Good luck.

This post was edited by sandandsun on Tue, Feb 3, 15 at 22:32

Hi Alana

Just answering your question here as well as in a separate thread. Bulk ordering from Roses Unlimited is for 66 or more roses shipped to the same address, and there is a price break of 10% off the roses plus reduced shipping (that varies by zone). For me, the roses are shipped at $4/rose rather than $7/rose. For this many roses, it definitely adds up.

It's a good excuse to get your friends and neighbors to join you on a rose order!

Cynthia

Thanks Cynthia! I got it on the other thread, but thanks anyway! Wish I had someone to go in with me, but it's ok because I'm going their anyway :)

I am really enjoying all the views on this thread,. Just gorgeous! THank you for sharing.

Christopher, I can't wait to see pics of your developing garden next year. It is really smart to put on the deer nettings for the clematis. I can just envision a wall of color when the clematis are in bloom. What an effect that will be! I hope you don't mind that I use your idea in part of my garden. Karen

Venosa Violacea is my favorite clematis. It is vigorous and hardy.

Mariannese, Your pic of Rhapsody in Blue looks like Blue For You to me. Does anyone know where to find Rhapsody In Blue and/ or Blue For You? Chamblee's has BFY but they are twigs and it is 20 in shipping besides. Thanks for your help.

Terri

Northland Rosarium has both. I got Rhapsody from them last year. It was a good sized healthy plant and grew vigorously.

For me, there are easier and more constantly flowering plants, such as dahlias, to grow for just colour. I grow roses primarily for their fragrance.

Roses and Cattleya orchids. If they have no fragrance, what's the point? Watch the look on someone's face when they receive commercially grown roses, bend their face down and take a deep breath of nothing. It is sheer disappointment. I don't understand this at all.

Hopefully it was some of the beneficial fungi. I had lots of the soil from the pot with the white stuff in it as well so I added a couple of shovel fulls in the hole.

I actually have recently bought some Great White fungi to start using in my new rose pots.

Thanks again!

I had the same problem and panicked, but was reassured here that it was nothing to worry about and was, in fact, a good thing.

Ingrid

And Twilight Zone

and Ebb Tide.

His roses are among some of my favorites for the moderns.