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AquaEyes 7a New Jersey

If you can't find Rose Tone, I've been very happy with Jobe's Organic Knock-Out fertilizer. But as Kate said, "roses aren't really overly fussy." If you find cheaper organic fertilizers with similar ratios (the N-P-K is listed as #-#-# on the bags), they'll work as well. Feed the soil, and the soil will feed the plants.

:-)

~Christopher

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 12:53PM
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mzstitch(Zone 7b South Carolina)

Roses are heavy feeders, and if you have not been fertilizing at all this is definitly where you need to start. I use 10-10-10 with very good results so if that's what you have at home use that. If the plants only have a few leaves you definitly don't want to cut any off, so since you didn't prune this year I would just wait til next Feb. to prune. Theres great online videos to show you how to prune if you need some tips. Heres one I like. http://www.youtube.com/user/AshdownRoses

Here is a link that might be useful: Ashdown Roses

    Bookmark   July 17, 2014 at 8:27AM
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seil zone 6b MI

That's beautiful!

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 5:19PM
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lynnette

I wouldn't call Vancouver Island ideal because of all the rain it gets. It certainly is the acid test for roses.

    Bookmark   July 17, 2014 at 1:44AM
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Desertgarden-Las Vegas, Z8b/9a @ 2800 ft

Thank you:)

Lynn

    Bookmark   July 10, 2014 at 6:50PM
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reemcook(8a PNW)

Thank you!

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 7:16PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Oh how pretty!

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 5:37PM
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nastarana(5a)

That is nice. I can't like 'Westerland', or sports, but I believe I would like 'Salita' I love the color shadings. I am wondering if 'Salita' might not add some interest to a mostly pink and white row, without bringing on the dreaded "fruit salad" look.

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 6:58PM
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seil zone 6b MI

You got a mislabeled rose which is not uncommon for the cheap bagged roses as Christopher said. It could be just about anything that the producer had on hand when they shipped those roses out. With out pictures of it there's no way we can even attempt to ID it.

If you want roses with scent you need to deal with reputable nurseries either locally or on line and choose the one you want.

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 5:31PM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Also -- 5 ft. tall isn't at all unusual for a big Hybrid Tea Rose. And in hot weather, red roses may very well bloom pink.

Then, too, fragrance is a very individual sense. There are many "fragrant" roses I cannot smell . . . And there are a few NON-fragrant roses which I CAN smell.

Gardens can be full of surprises.

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 6:26PM
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canadian_rose(zone 3a)

Oh, that's lovely!! So many buds too.
Love it!
Carol

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 3:07PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Lovely!

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 5:24PM
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seil zone 6b MI

The only Big Fun rose I see listed at HMF is an orange florist rose, not yellow. It's not available anywhere either.

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 5:14PM
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ArbutusOmnedo 10/24

Hi Cynthia,

I don't really know where one could find Orchard's Pride these days. It doesn't have a source listed on HMF, but it does apparently go under the alternate name Miss Ashley which I didn't know.

My mom has a standard of it in her front yard that she bought at least 4-5 years ago at a hardware chain called 'Orchard Supply Hardware,' I think the rose was named 'Orchard's Pride' to commemorate some anniversary of the hardware chain OSH, but I could be mistaken. I saw a shrub of it available at an OSH almost 2 years ago, but I haven't seen it anywhere in So Cal since.

Jaimes Coiner, the breeder, sells to places like Home Depot, OSH, and others from his wholesale nursery, Coiner Nursery. He breeds his own roses as well as selling older, out of patent floribundas, grandis, and HTs. I don't know if any nurseries carry it that ship, but it could be worth contacting Coiner Nursery if it's a variety that you can't live without. I doubt that, but it is lovely! It has a scent that isn't strong in it's quantity, but to my nose is just perfectly light, sweet, and vaguely citrusy.

Jay

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 4:40PM
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tigerloveroses

Wonderful roses!

    Bookmark   July 16, 2014 at 12:14AM
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lynnette

Royal Sunset is a very beautiful climber but it is an old one and has some of the older climbers problems. It is, as said, hardy but unless pruned, it will grow in all directions. The flowers will then not be as full and the leaves sparse. To get the best out of this beauty, it needs to be pruned hard every year to make it grow as a large shrub shape which is normal for it. Keep the nitrogen low so it will put it's strength into flowers not long growth. Then this is what you will see.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 8:21PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Lynnette - That rose is gorgeous! And I appreciate your suggestions, very helpful. Thank you so much.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 9:37PM
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roseseek

I'm glad Cynthia! Sean has made some extremely good roses which seem destined to disappear, unfortunately. He's a wonderful gentleman and a good friend. This one appears to be one of his best for vigor and health. I cherish it. Kim

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 3:47PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Cynthia - It's beautiful and everything looks so healthy.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 5:57PM
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kittymoonbeam

Is this a HT or a smaller rose? I have a mismarked band rose ( now in a 5 gal pot) that looks exactly like this rose. I kept it because it was so beautiful.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 1:30PM
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kentucky_rose zone 6

Kittymoonbeam,
Good question....Crystal Palace is a mini flora. I just got it this spring. Based on the size of the bloom, I would think it was a floribunda. It will be interesting to see how big it will be this fall. Beautiful bloom that I would love to have in HT size.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 5:54PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Peter, I had Pink Peace many years ago and it died off one winter. This is the one I bought this spring to replace it with.

Yes, it is blooming now. In Michigan it's the height of rose season and most of my roses are blooming. Things are doing pretty well considering the long cold spring we had.

As far as I can tell I do not have spider mites on any of my roses. I do have some pretty big spiders that like to make webs between the pots though. I don't bother much with them because they help keep a lot of the bad bug populations down. But I don't see any in that picture.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 12:10PM
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gardentiller

You are right, Seil!
After I zoomed 200 % to see more clear the picture,the web like white dots on the petal are water drops.
Good job! Congratulations!

This post was edited by gardentiller on Tue, Jul 15, 14 at 14:27

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 2:09PM
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seil zone 6b MI

If the leaf is still green, even though it has holes in it, it is still capable of feeding the plant so you can leave those. If there's nothing left but a skeleton you can remove those since there isn't enough left to do any good really. Anything that has begun to yellow can be removed because it's no longer functioning. Clean up anything on the ground to keep things neat but it doesn't make much difference as far as preventing diseases. When you dead head you can prune a little deeper to take off some of the damaged areas. The plant should begin to regrow quickly at that time anyway.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 12:48PM
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roseseek

What Seil said. Anything green continues feeding and shading the plant. A rose bush (like most other plants) is the perfect "commune". As long as any part contributes at least as much as it requires and benefits the entire organism, the plant retains it. Once any part requires more resources than it provides, the plant sheds it. Thinking of the entire this way should also make it easier when thinking of "blind growth", those shoots which form leaves but no flowers. Every leaf feeds the plant. If the plant forms leaves but no flowers, doesn't it stand to reason it's because the plant needs FOOD or shade, rather than attempts to reproduce? Kim

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 2:04PM
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the_morden_man((Z4-Z5) Ontario, Canada)

John Davis. It will be tip hardy for you in your zone and it is very nearly thornless. In addition, it wants to grow more as a large mounding shrub that wants to be wider than tall, although it can be tied up to a support for greater height if desired. Once established, it should have little issue covering the 8-10ft area of fenceline.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 9:42AM
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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

I don't know about how winter hardy it is but you might want to look at Sally Homes.

    Bookmark   July 15, 2014 at 10:10AM
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lainey2(7a)

This is new info to me, the horticultural oil and cutting the entire plant to the ground. Does anyone else have more information ?

    Bookmark   July 14, 2014 at 9:56PM
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