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jazzmom516(Zone 7 LI, NY)

I have had 'Tamora 'for many years and its in the front of my rose garden. I concur that it does stay short. To the left next to it with the hint of yellow bud sticking out is my 'Julia Child' for comparison of size.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 3:22PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I can't say how Austins will grow in California, but here in the heartland, there are any number of shorter Austins to pick from. Just this morning I was admiring Munstead Wood and Molineux in the back garden--both about 3 ft tall, may grow another half-foot to foot at most by the end of summer. I was thinking how they were just the right size for my gardens.

Austin has several recent roses in the same range--Princess Alexandra of Kent and Boscobel and others, for instance.

Tamara (above) is looking good!

Kate

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 3:29PM
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jacqueline9CA

Campanula - it is true that over 100 years ago they planted thousands of Mme Caroline Testout roses in Portland, I think they were planted along the main streets. I do recall somewhere reading a couple of years ago that a rose person had found several remaining plants from the original plantings, still alive and blooming.

Jackie

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 7:30AM
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Joe Moose, Zone 9A

I am now wanting to plan a trip sometime in the future... :D

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 2:07PM
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thorngrower sw. ont. z5

Quadra......

    Bookmark     June 13, 2015 at 10:43AM
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Nessdizzle 5b North East

The garage will be painted a deep charcoal gray so I can get away with almost any color really...I will def go for the trellis' to accommodate the climbers id center under window and let go up and around. I love all the roses that have been mentioned but I cant seem to find any for sale online they're all sold out??

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 1:48PM
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Holly Kline

Whoo! You got a good one. Mine reverted to Dr. Huey after the last two winters.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 10:35AM
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Joe Moose, Zone 9A

Awesome!

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 1:45PM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I'd guess your rose bushes have been visited by the same rose slugs (sawfly larvae) that tend to attack rose bushes every late spring/early summer. This is usually a temporary problem--then the good predator bugs come along and gobble up the rose slugs, and there is no more problem.

However, the bush is often left with ugly damaged leaves. I would just pluck off the worst looking ones, and then wait patiently for the bush to produce new leaves (followed by buds and then blooms).

In the future, it would help if you checked the bushes in the late spring/early summer for tiny, tiny green wormlike things--usually on the underside of the leaves. When they are present, squish them. That will keep them somewhat under control until the good predator bugs arrive a couple weeks later.

As for the not flowering well problem, that is just part of the normal bloom cycle of any rose. A rose blooms for a couple weeks, then the blooms deteriorate (turn brown) and fall off, then the bush rests and renews itself, then it starts blooming again. Most roses go through several bloom cycles per season.

When the blooms deteriorate, the bush will look better if you deadhead it (pick of the brown old blooms). Deadheading sometimes encourages the bush to begin blooming sooner also.

Hope that helps.

Kate

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 12:50PM
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nicholas_delo

This is definitely only on the oldest, lowest leaves.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 11:11AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Give it epsom salts then, 1/4 cup now and maybe one more dose this season. But do check the pH, as it may offer a long-term solution to Fe, Mg, and Mn problems.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 11:52AM
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keithog

Mad_gallica yeah I'm just not sure I took a closer pic

I'm not sure if that's the graft though.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 10:15AM
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keithog

Jackie, I'm not sure if this is the graft

But I was told tree roses have the graft at the top and this rose was definitely not a tree rose at least I don't think so. It never looked like the tree rose I searched online. I have not touched it since, just watering everyday. I'm just going to leave it be so it can try and recover. If it doesn't grow properly I'll just yank it all up and buy a new rose. Yes I stopped listening to that person lol.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 10:20AM
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msdorkgirl(11)

Nice and bushy though, when there's a lot of rain, a lot of nutrients are drained off, correct? Assume it's a floribunda of some sort that like to be bushy otherwise would people suggest a little pruning for aeration?

    Bookmark     June 15, 2015 at 1:59PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

It looks like manganese deficiency rather than iron, because the little cross-veins are green. The pH may be too high.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 10:17AM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I don't think aphids have anything to do with tan-colored paper like leaves--at least not in my garden.

    Bookmark     June 15, 2015 at 7:24PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Good work by sunnydays!

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 10:15AM
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Marigold33

While searching high and low for Earth Song in a gallon pot, I was able to find it at a place called Roses Unlimited. This year I have acquired The Magician, Julia Child and now Earth Song. I think I'm going to try a few more Bucks and maybe Rio Samba. Thanks for sharing your beautiful roses, happy gardening!

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 8:17AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Those that have been blackspot resistant for me are Earth Song, Winter Sunset, Prairie Harvest, and Les Sjulin. The first three are somewhat fragrant. Most can get cercospora spot. Prairie Sunrise has one of the nicest flowers, and seems somewhat resistant, but I spray it occasionally. Quietness is resistant in some gardens, but it depends on the strains of BS in your particular garden. I haven't found it slow-growing at all. My own-root Q grew quickly to 4' x 4', now 5'x5'. The beautiful Q flowers are resistant to botrytis petal blight and balling.

Distant Drums is one that didn't grow vigorously on its own roots. It's basically a normal hybrid tea with exotic coloring and fragrance.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 10:02AM
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What is wrong with my knockout roses?
Posted by dandelionwishes June 15, 2015
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dandelionwishes

So these red bugs look like box elder bugs - the immature ones that are all red. They were lined up like armies in symmetrical rows on the evergreen shrub next to the roses. (I hate evergreen shrubs, I have pulled out just about every evergreen shrub except these). The weird thing is, there were no holes in the rose leaves before, they were just pale pale yellow. Now, there are these bugs, and some of the leaves have holes in them. These bugs are about the size of my pinky fingernail. I am fairly sure they are box elder bugs. I have cut back the roses as far as I could. I didn't put much potting soil on them, just a little bit around the base because the potting soil was dry and I thought maybe the nutrients in it would be helpful. I will put some mulch lightly over the top. I am just glad it doesn't appear to be the dreaded red rosette virus thing. I might have to plant something else in this spot though if these guys don't pull through.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 8:31AM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

You have done about the best you can. Here in zone5 not too many are cane hardy. There are roses that are tip hardy here of course. I used to have more cane left but not after these last two winters.

A lot of knockouts are sold grafted as it is faster to mass produce. So if that grafted area was not buried then your Knockout will have died in the winter weather. Most likely you will see root stock come up. Sad to say but most grafted roses use Dr. Huey root stock which really doesn't grow well here. Multiflora root stock is recommended. But then since most rose growers in the area don't know to bury the graft I shutter to think of how much more multiflora would growing here. Any questions just ask.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 9:12AM
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seil zone 6b MI

She's is lovely who ever she is!

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 9:10AM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

The brownish leaves are healthy new growth. Again, you should expect to find a color contrast between emerging and established leaves.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 8:47AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Those are still growing. On blind growth you wouldn't have those redder new shoots coming. The cane would simply end at that last set of very green leaves.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 8:53AM
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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

Perfect photo and beautiful rose, Sara. Diane

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 12:16AM
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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

Nice one! My FP is only 1 year old and it was quite stingy with the flowers in the first year and the colour is not as intense as yours.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2015 at 3:08AM
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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

Good to know about Sunsprite's bloom longevity, cjrosaphile. I sort of regret not buying it this year because my eye was only on Julia. I also chose Lightkonigin Lucia instead which has a similar colour as Sunsprite. Beside Julia, I have to say Golden Celebration and Teasing Georgia as it does well in my climate. I really wish I could say the same about Graham Thomas. I love this rose bloom but it is not profuse in blooms or vigorous.

    Bookmark     June 15, 2015 at 7:30PM
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cjrosaphile(z8 Pacific NW)

I can understand why your eye was only on Julia, jjpeace. Just got Golden Celebration and it is like a climber, lots of bs and moderately fragrant unless it improves with age. It's on the fence for me unless you can tell me its worth keeping.

    Bookmark     June 15, 2015 at 8:34PM
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