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'Tpooh Ladie

I've purchased my seeds on Aliexpress the onl thing i don't like is freezing the seeds before growing... it's a bummer to wait

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 3:32PM
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nummykitchen

Oh wow, just read why they discontinued offering Osiria at Palatine, I will count myself lucky since I purchased one Nov. 2013. Mine gives HUGE blooms and is more vigorous in my garden than I expected. I'm seeing little red leafbuds popping out so with fingers crossed I'd say it made it through our horrible Michigan winter.

Here are some bloom pics from last summer.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 3:57PM
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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)

annofpa: I kept my tree roses in about 15 gallon insulated pots. I start my regular potted roses depending on their size in black nursery pots or whatever is available lol. If they are grafted plants I put them in 7.5 gallon size then pot up from there as needed. Ideally, I try to get the roses potted on into large insulated pots to prevent the roots from getting too hot here. I have a hand truck that I use to move pots. Its the best thing I ever bought dh so I could steal it and use it for plants lol :D

~sjn

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 2:25PM
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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

I also picked up CI in one of my body bag orgies. I also just bought a Mr. Lincoln as a replacement for one that died, it's my husband's favorite. So far all of my bagged roses are doing fine. Even the JFK one I bought that was in rough shape. I think getting them watered and potted right away is a key. I've even soaked them in the bag and left them like that for a bit.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 3:00PM
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diane_nj 6b/7a

Watering every 3 - 4 days may have washed out most of that fertilizer by now. You could do fish emulsion at half-strength once a week. Osmocote works well in pots too.

BUT: have they bloomed yet? If not, then water is sufficient enough for now (they are happily growing roots, and they need roots before blooms), fertilize after the first bloom cycle.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 12:52PM
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sultry_jasmine_nights (Florida 9a)

I alternate between stuff like fish fertilizer and compost teas and stuff like MG and MG bloom boosters etc. I have tons of brugmansia which are very heavy feeders and will eat up anything I can throw at them. I do not mix up separate batches so whatever I am feeding them, I just do the same for all the other stuff too. I have potted roses that get quite a bit of fertilizer and I have not had any problems. I use plastic pots not clay and they get watered several times between fertilizer applications. Also, make sure to never fertilize a dry pot. Always water about a half hour before you fertilize. I killed a rose many years ago by putting fertilizer on a very dry rose lol. Completely fried it!! Never forgot that lesson.

~sjn

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nanadollZ7 SWIdaho(Zone 7 Boise SW Idaho)

In this photo, the Julia Child roses and the peonies (pretty well over blooming and not looking good) are planted on a fairly steep slope, looking down our front sidewalk. The peonies were planted a year before the roses, and as Julia grew bigger, the peonies got more trapped. Now they bloom beautifully, and a short while after they are done, the plants get mildewy from poor air circulation due to gigantic Julia. None of roses ever get mildew, but this example does show how the peonies should be planted in front of the roses. That's not how things worked out here. The roses do wonderfully well in this bed, though. Diane

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 11:31AM
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dublinbay z6 (KS)

I'd say it depends on how close together they are going to be, and whether you place the peony in front, beside, or behind the rose depends on how tall the rose gets.

Here you can see a nearly finished blooming white peony (bottom right corner of pic) next to a red Eutin floribunda--both about the same size, although the Eutin will get somewhat taller as the summer goes by. That peony and rose are about 3 feet apart. There is also a short spreading mini rose is growing in front of that peony; it is about 1.5 ft away from the peony.

If you look down at the end of that bed, appearing to lean over the driveway (it doesn't really), there is another peony, done blooming. To the left of it is the pink Pomponell rose bush. They are about 3 ft apart also, and as the summer goes by, the Pomponel will grow taller than the peony, although at peony blooming time they are roughly the same size.

Both the peonies are placed so that they get plenty of air space and therefore don't mildew, but the rose bushes next to them and growing larger as the season progresses help mask them a bit, drawing attention to the blooming rose rather than the bloomless peony. Since my peonies do not mildew, they look like nice green bushes most of the summer, although they can get a bit ratty looking in autumn--but I just start trimming them back then.

Hope that helps.

Kate

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 2:17PM
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kingcobbtx9b

I transplanted 50 roses last may and they all survived. However, you will basically be kissing goodbye to any real flush this year.

If they are looking healthy and alive, I would just leave them alone until cooler weather in October or November. They may or may not actually go dormant on you, but once the heat stress is gone you can move them a lot easier.

But I wouldn't wait past early november. You want them to get established before the real cold weather gets here.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 12:18PM
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cleangeek(Zone 9)

I like cannas but they can become invasive, I only have 8 growing right now...I'm sure I'll have 24 rhizomes by fall. I can't imagine 350 lbs of rhizomes!

I hope the poor little roses survive, I would just leave them alone until winter.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 1:39PM
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James_Shaw_San Francisco Bay Area

Here is my Cl. Pinata.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 9:50AM
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bethnorcal9

Hmmm. They have a bunch of PINATAs at Lowes in 3gal pots. The opening blooms were quite striking. Maybe I should go back and pick one up! I have a non-climbing TALISMAN and it definitely doesn't get a lot of yellow on it, let alone a bright yellow!

I'm sure RVR will replace it.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 10:39AM
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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

Weatherunderground.com will give you weather history for your zip code.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 4:41AM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Thanks Buford, Took me long enough to find that history tab. So, -9 was the lowest temp. last winter. It did seem like the coldest of the cold weather was sliding more east than it did in 13/14.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 8:34AM
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swedeone

I will call the Palm Beach Rose Society, if they allow people to join that don't live in Palm Beach County then I would love to!

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 8:27AM
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swedeone

I had a typo that was classic on my last post, it said, "if they allow people to join that don't LIKE Palm Beach County." Haha, I quickly changed that to "live" in PBC ;)

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 8:29AM
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Ken (N.E.GA.mts) 7a/b(7a/b)

The first year you have these roses, don't cut the rose stems more then half way. Let the bush's grow and put some size under the blooms. Vino Rosso is the only one that I'm not familiar with. The Kords roses will get fairly tall but can be kept to 4 or 5 ft tall. It will probably take 2 or 3 years to get good width to them. I've heard some grumbling about the bloom size of Vino Rosso not being any bigger the a medium size florabunda bloom. It's supposed to have beautiful flower form with good stems under the bloom. It's major selling point. I know Winter Sun is a beautiful yellow with good stems and great foliage. Of the 4, I pretty sure Beverly is going to be your biggest bloom. Winter Sun should out bloom them all and Grand Amore will grow on you the more it blooms. More then anything, always stop to smell the roses and enjoy each bloom off each bush that you grow.

    Bookmark   April 7, 2015 at 6:51PM
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JMangum(8)

Thanks so much Ken and Kentucky Rose. I'll definitely give them a lot of room, as I want them to get large.

    Bookmark   April 8, 2015 at 6:17AM
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bellarosa(z5/IL)

Hi Mary Lu,
Thank you so much for the information! This is very helpful. I will definitely be purchasing one of these amazing historic roses.

Bellarosa

    Bookmark   April 14, 2010 at 7:57AM
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summersrhythm_z6a

Bellarosa, how is your Peggy Martin rose? I purchased 4 of them last year, just wondering if your PM reblooms well in your zone. Thanks

    Bookmark   April 7, 2015 at 7:35PM
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kingcobbtx9b

Just an update, they have climbing Belinda's Dream at Antique Rose Emporium in 15 or 20 gallon pots for $50. Impressive looking plants. They also had some beautiful Graham Thomas Roses in similar sized pots for same price that I might have snatched up if I didn't already have 2.

    Bookmark   April 7, 2015 at 12:44PM
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meredith_e Z7b, Piedmont of NC, 1000' elevation

OMG. I'd never heard of her! I bet she's stunning! Thank you so much for bumping this thread back up.

    Bookmark   April 7, 2015 at 7:31PM
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Marlorena-z8 England-

...as you only want a couple of roses I wouldn't consider that to be terribly crucial.... if they don't succeed...you can always try again....

...if I lived in your area I think I might choose from the Earth Kind list, as they have proven heat and drought tolerance....amongst other good attributes...

Earth Kind selection

    Bookmark   Thanked by Theresa McHarney    February 19, 2015 at 3:52PM
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Theresa McHarney

Thanks, everybody! I am looking at the selection waiting at our nearest nursery, a block away.
They will be for sale on April 14th.

    Bookmark   April 7, 2015 at 4:53PM
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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

lucas, I have RU for Poison Ivy that I am using to try to eradicate invasive honeysuckle. If I see any suckers coming from the stump I dug out, I will use it. I haven't replanted yet.

    Bookmark   April 7, 2015 at 4:17PM
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MaryAnn1950

Patty I started a new thread and posted some more photos. "Is this RRD"

    Bookmark   April 7, 2015 at 4:26PM
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bethnorcal9

I got mine a couple of yrs ago. First yr not one bloom and almost no growth beyond the initial early spring spurt. Last yr I think he bloomed maybe twice? And I mean two blooms. Here's one of them. Don't remember if he smelled good or not.

    Bookmark   April 7, 2015 at 9:37AM
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Brittie - La Porte, TX 9a

At least it's not just me.

    Bookmark   April 7, 2015 at 10:10AM
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