22,152 Garden Web Discussions | Roses
Thank you Christopher and Seil for those suggestions. I actually had veterans honor and Barcelona on the top of my list to order, but I had to look up all the other names on HMF and I had to add crimson glory, Avon, hearts desire, and velvet fragrance to the list. Yikes! Hmmmmm. Decisions, decisions. I'm hoping that some of the mail order nurseries will have a end of season sale and I will end up with a few of these roses. A girl can dream, right?
I received an unusual Buck rose, Mavourneen, from Heirloom Roses by mistake one year, and found it to be a fragrant interesting red. Its currant red with a slight white outline of white. Its a shrub rose about 4 ft tall but I keep it pruned. It blooms in clusters. It likes more shade than I have it in, but provides a great background for bright colors. I like it very much. Fragrant from 10 ft away. In Gallic its name means "My Darling" according to Dr.Buck.
In my garden, Veteran,s Honor has the best form, red color, thick velvety blooms, large in size for a show rose.
I do like my Olympiad also, although the bloom is smaller.
Another of my favorite red roses in my garden is Beloved.
It's a deep red rose with beautiful form, long stems with
velvety petals, doesn't blow quickly, and is a prolific bloomer.
I have several favorite reds. They are Veteran's Honor, Let Freedom Ring, and Grande Amore. Black Magic is another fav but probably too dark and form can go flat in summer. Grande Amore is more orange red than blue red and the bloom can be smaller at times, not always. Veteran's Honor has been one of the top 3 exhibition roses for years along with Gemini and Moonstone. Let Freedom Ring hasn't been around as long as Veteran's Honor. I have 2 of each of the 4 reds mentioned. If you can, I would recommend getting Veteran's Honor and Let Freedom Ring. I had Opening Night and it bloomed a lot, but the open bloom was as flat as a pancake.
I'm over 1 1/2 yrs late in entering this conversation, so forgive me.
Before I'd consider working with your landscaping, I'd tie the house together. It's too disjointed. The top floor is reminiscent of a half timbered Old English Elizabethan home is Umber. The cedar shakes don't add anything when you consider the other elements. I wonder what might be under those shakes? The ground floor is more of a 1950's +/- brick home with windows that differ greatly in style from that of the 2nd floor is Terra Cotta) And the concrete porch is Redwood in color.
I think you'll be happier in the long run if you can work on unifying the appearance of the house. Then consider adding your climbing rose on each post.
I'd keep the bricks, don't paint them. That leads to forever painting them. So, use that as one of your primary colors. It will take a great mind that what I have as to how to tie in the two floors. But, if you can bring some of that Terra Cotta brick color up, then maybe it would might help OR bring some Umber down to your bricks. Shutters can be unifying, but consider that considerably later. You could even make them yourselves consider the Old English look you have to work with.
Then paint the front on the porch. Maybe the terra cotta color with umber lines. Others could suggest that one better than me.
I'd put a climbing rose on both porch posts. The rose that I'd suggest might not grow there. I called Chamblee's for my own questions regarding another climber. Lady Ashe is one that I would have selected, but the color doesn't work here. The peach accent would blend nicely with the terra cotta colored brick and very fragrant.
Then I'd plant an evergreen shrub that could help fill in both those side of the steps as there are 2 blanks areas that could handle a small shrub nicely.
I can see other areas where you could edge your sidewalk in front with some similar terra cotta colored bricks that you could probably get off Craigslist very reasonably.
There are some other things that can be done, but I just hope that I haven't alienated you by now. So, take what you can and with a breath of kindness blow the rest away.
I hope you are able to live there for years and years. You got a good place to start.
Xtal
Here is a link that might be useful: Lady Ashe
Novalis
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/pl.php?n=82761
This post was edited by rumen123 on Fri, Jan 2, 15 at 7:20
I bought Drop Dead Red as an impulse buy because my sister love the show Drop Dead Diva. It ended up being a superbe rose. Throughout the whole summer, it is abundant with flowers when other roses took a pause between flowering. The flowers lasted quite a long time and the bush is well behaved, like a natural bride bouquet. It only has BS later in the summer. I would definitely recommend this rose to anyone who is looking for a red floribunda.
I have a tree rose OTM planted in a place that shades over at about 2pm also. My zone is not nearly as hot as TX so I may not helpful. We do have our stretches of 90s or rarely 100s for about a week. This rose fades to white generally and quickly in heat. Its my only reason I'm gonna replace with Brandy... I didn't want a white rose. Otherwise its a prolific bloomer all the time with huge beautiful blooms. It doesn't flush like most but seems to always have blooms up til December here. In general I wouldn't buy OTM in a hot climate unless you want an apricot that turns white. Weeks missed it with this one.
I love this colour range and it is beautiful. I was looking for this rose last year but couldn't find it. Hopefully I will this spring. I grew Marilyn Monroe and Just Joey and they both died after the first winter. This rose seems to combine the best of two: MM's rose shape and JJ's colour. The only question I have is how BS resistant is it and the zone hardiness?
Mini roses can come in a variety of sizes. The "mini" refers to the miniature bloom, not necessarily the size of the bush.
I have multiple Sweet Dianas (a mini) that grows about 2 feet tall. I also have multiples of another mini called Green Ice--it sprawls and never gets more than 1 to 1.5 feet tall--mostly spreads outward rather than growing upward. Both Sweet Diana and Green Ice have small blooms (the "mini" part).
I've also heard of some minis that have grown much, much taller--though I believe that is not real common in the world of minis. I think you can also get minis that are climbers, though maybe not more than 5-6 ft.
You will just have to read the description of any mini you are interested in in order to determine how tall the bushes will get. And then plan on them getting taller than that--as roses often do in the warmer regions.
Kate
I've never heard of the term mini floribunda. The ARS recognized class is Miniflora, all one word. Your Mornin' Sunshine is not on HMF but I did find it at Otto & Sons nursery and it looks like it was introduced in 2014 by Certified Roses. Certified classes it as a floribunda but one that has blooms on the smaller size. They say blooms are 2 x 2 inches. They don't list a plant size but say it has a "spreading habit".
As Kate said, mini and miniflora only applies to the size of the bloom and the leaves, not the size of the plant. I have the mini Softee and it gets over 3 feet tall and wide all the time. There are mini climbers, like Jeanne Lajoie, can get 10 or 12 feet tall. If you are looking for compact plant size you need to look for that trait and not rely on the bloom size to indicate the plant size.
Ugh, I'm glad I'm not the only pruning ditherer. The books say 'when the buds swell' and ALSO 'after the last frost' and the two are not comparable. The buds on mine start swelling (those that go dormant) pretty much as soon as we're past the longest night, but last frost date is ususally late March. By which point, the roses have got three months growth on them.
I try to hold out till they actually start leafing out proper, and pray we don't get a late cold front, but it's difficult - Eglantyne had a tiny bud forming this morning, I was somewhat staggered.
Oh Cynthia... I just found out my EDGAR DEGAS died. Nobody here in the US or even Canada carry it anymore. I was sooo upset when I realized it was gone. I have sooo many more stripeys that I didn't show here. Some didn't bloom last yr so I didn't have recent pics. Some I just forgot and really didn't want to overload the thread!! LOL
TIGER TAIL is an old J&P floribunda that apparently wasn't a very good rose in general, so they dumped it. It was intro'd along with PURPLE TIGER and another stripey FL that also got dumped early on. I don't quite remember the name but it was a white and orange stripe. Oh wait, maybe it was called ORANGE SPLASH or something like that. I never did purchase that one. I think the problem with TIGER TAIL was the fact that the blooms are really quite small for a floribunda. They average about 2". Now BUTTERFLY is a florist rose that I got from someone I can't really mention, as I don't want him to be inundated by people asking for roses. I also got my SIMSALABIM from him.
If I had time, I'd try to root some of these obscure roses. But I just don't have the time right now.
Thanks again Beth for talking about Showdow Dancer and Soaring Spirit. I am thinking I am going to get Flamingo Dancer. I am a sucker for a pink rose! Burling states it gets bigger than SD and there is quite a bit of space to cover on that arch.
39ð F here in Spokane, Washington USA. Feels like like 32ð F. Wind is 10mph coming from WSW. Overcast sky. Snowed overnight. Looks beautiful. Drinking tea and feeling cozy inside this a.m. It's nice that our days are getting longer. Have a good day. :)
The Huntington has one on a big arch. The color is rich and pictures never can show the beauty or intensity of it. I get drawn to it every time I see it. It's a beautiful rose and I have not seen anything like it in bush form. Big thick tall canes.
I completely forgot about this post. The last time I checked with them it was like they completely forgot they had told me they would propagate it again since so many of us wanted it. I was really disappointed. Please let us know what they tell you!! Judy
My Peach Silks, grown from tiny bands years ago from Heirloom, are on an arbor - they grow well, bloom throughout the year and are pretty much disease free. I have 2 on this arbor - the other 2 were grown from bands and are in big pots - I plan to put them in the ground in early spring or before. I find they bloom most of the year in spite of the fact that I don't fertilize them much. They are healthy and I think anyone would be pleased to have this lovely rose.
Judith
Spellbound is one of my favorites. Does anyone know of any vendors that sell this rose? Here is a pic of my Spellbound.
I don't know coral from salmon but I know I love Westerland. I grow it as a climber but I know some grow it as a bush. It gets big here and produces lots of blooms all summer..