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Maryl zone 7a

Having lost almost all of my climbers to RRV over the years, (the most recent went this Tuesday), I'm left with one lone Aloha. I have an arch and originally had one on each side trained to go over it. Aloha is a shorter grower and it works quite well on the 8 foot arch never overwhelming it as some climbers can do. Now I don't do ladders anymore so I maintain the lone survivor as a tall shrub. This last Aloha has been in the ground since around 1988 and even with RMV (rose mosaic virus) it's still prolific and winter hardy. It's only fault is the the buds as they first begin to unfurl open up in the center and if we have rain, it can collect in the centers causing them to rot out. It has had better then average disease resistance for me too....Coincidently there is a daylily called Pink Aloha that is drop dead gorgeous. A good name for a rose apparently as well as a daylily....Maryl

    Bookmark   July 5, 2014 at 7:07PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Maryl - Thank you for sharing about your Aloha. That daylily is gorgeous!

    Bookmark   July 5, 2014 at 7:22PM
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seil zone 6b MI

It sounds stunning! You need to post some pictures for us!

    Bookmark   July 5, 2014 at 6:44PM
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buford(7 NE GA)

I had more than I've had in previous years. I hope that isn't a trend. But it was still manageable. They seem to love certain roses, so I would check those and was able to send most of them to JB heaven (or hell).

    Bookmark   July 5, 2014 at 8:21AM
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floridarosez9

So far, I don't have JBs, but we do have Chilli Thrips, which can ouright kill the rose, not just gobble up blooms.

    Bookmark   July 5, 2014 at 3:14PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thank you everyone for the very helpful suggestions, I appreciate it very much.

    Bookmark   July 4, 2014 at 10:20PM
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jacqueline9CA

Run do not walk to "www.vintagegardens.com". This is the site of the no longer active Vintage Gardens nursery. Just click on "roses", and you will see a list of classes. Click on any class, and you will see a list of roses (probably saying "no longer available", as the nursery is closed). Most of the roses have pictures. This website is still operating as of today, but may be gone soon - I understand that the non-profit which has rescued the collection plans on having their own web site, but I don't know if all of the rose info is on it yet. Thus, the recommendation to look at it immediately.

VG sells (which they may still be doing right now) a fabulous catalogue of roses, "Vintage Gardens Complete Catalogue of Antique and Extraordinary Roses". It is arranged by class, and includes many older hybrid teas and other "modern" roses as well as antiques.

Jackie

    Bookmark   July 5, 2014 at 1:59PM
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Myflowers2

Thanks Dave. I just went in and trimmed almost all of the "HOLY" leaves out but that left me with sticks so I will probably go ahead and cut it back.

    Bookmark   July 4, 2014 at 12:37PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Hungry devils.... :-/

    Bookmark   July 4, 2014 at 11:29PM
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njmomma(z6 NJ)

Thanks everyone! They are concrete pavers and the water gets in between them (hence my weeds) and the rose has about 3 feet (a clematis on each side which may have been dumb) and about 18 inches width. Just in the short time since I posted these pics it has put up a lot of bright green growth towards the top. I just cut out a huge dead cane and supported the main cane with a pole. I will probably go and buy an arch shaped trellis to train it on but they are so dang expensive. The Blaze Improved next to it has, well, improved. It has put up new buds and green at the top as well. I see a hole next to it from some critter so I hope it won't hurt the rose. Dang critters. The blaze was transplanted in the middle of summer last year by necessity so I knew it would suffer but it looks awful. I'm guessing it will look much better next year.
The reason I posted is because I'm awful with roses (I have 100 daylilies that look fabulous) so I dared to buy some easy ones and I just want to make sure I'm doing all I can for it.
Thanks again everyone!

    Bookmark   July 3, 2014 at 6:28PM
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charleney(8a PNW)

My Polka is about 10'x10'. It has fairly strong, stiff canes, but the rose is calling to me to tie it up some, this year. Do not give up on that rose, you will love, love, love it!

    Bookmark   July 4, 2014 at 8:38PM
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bart_2010(8/9 Italy)

Yeah, the jury's still out for RdV in my garden...in spite of it's bloom problems, it seems to be quite vigorous as a plant. I dug mine up to try to figure out why it couldn't produce decent blooms in spite of being so large and basically vigorous, and found that the soil in which the roots were "growing" was worthless, powdery SAND- like decayed potting soil. The plant just SLIPPED OUT of that stuff, even though it'd been there 4 plus years. Enough to kill many a rose...instead,RdV 's onlt real symptom was the inability to produce good quality flowers! We shall see....bart

    Bookmark   July 4, 2014 at 7:03AM
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professorroush(6A)

The Dark Lady here is not a bright red, but it certainly isn't dark either. Somewhere between Mr. Lincoln and Ingrid Bergman in shade, I think.

    Bookmark   July 4, 2014 at 7:15PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Thank you, Kim! I learned a lot from you!

    Bookmark   July 4, 2014 at 3:51PM
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roseseek

You're welcome ma'am! Thank you! I'm glad! Happy Fourth! Kim

    Bookmark   July 4, 2014 at 4:01PM
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kentucky_rose zone 6

All 3 look beautiful!

    Bookmark   July 3, 2014 at 7:19PM
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sara_ann-z6bok

Thank you, Kentucky_rose

    Bookmark   July 4, 2014 at 10:08AM
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seil zone 6b MI

They both look like hybrid teas so they should rebloom this summer for you. Take lots of pictures of the buds and every stage of bloom. That will help to ID them.

In the mean time keep them watered and fertilized and healthy. I wouldn't prune them at all, just dead head the spent blooms, and give them a chance to grow back some size. When they get a little larger you could do as anenemity suggest and take some cuttings to root.

    Bookmark   July 4, 2014 at 12:01AM
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Mitchell1

Thank you all for the help!

    Bookmark   July 4, 2014 at 9:05AM
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martinca_gw

"I once played that striptease song for a rose and all its leaves fell off... ;-/"
LOL Jim!

    Bookmark   July 3, 2014 at 11:51PM
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bart_2010(8/9 Italy)

What could I play to my bindweed to kill it off...maybe some real "dark" stuff, like that group The Sisters of Mercy?

    Bookmark   July 4, 2014 at 6:56AM
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ken-n.ga.mts(7a/7b)

Palatine Roses will be taking orders in Sept. for fall or spring delivery. I know I'll be ordering for a fall shipment.

    Bookmark   July 3, 2014 at 8:33PM
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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Kate is right about Chamblees but they aren't shipping again until Sept. I think they used to ship year round but aren't anymore They are awesome too. I've ordered from both places. Judy

    Bookmark   July 3, 2014 at 11:27PM
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buford(7 NE GA)

It's possible that the Easy Does Its were infected because they are on the sides of the other rose. In a way, they were protecting the other rose. Once you remove those, the other rose might get infected.

Have you checked to see if there are multiflora in the area? Perhaps ones that are infected that could be removed?

    Bookmark   July 3, 2014 at 9:52AM
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lainey2(7a)

I think I know how to identify RRD. I remove the infected cane to the ground. If the witch's broom, weird growth, hyper thorniness, rubbery stems, return, I remove the shrub. I don't believe herbicide damage returns on new growth. We live on a mountainside with large farms and meadows below. They probably harbor multifloras, but I have never seen them. I'll keep replanting as long as I am able. Very discouraging.

    Bookmark   July 3, 2014 at 11:04PM
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the_morden_man((Z4-Z5) Ontario, Canada)

6" is complete overkill in your zone. Many roses will not thrive planted that deep as it is very difficult to get both water and oxygen to the root system. 2" below soil line should be fine. If your roses are mostly on Dr. Huey understock, then that likely explains your mortality rate. Get them grafted on multiflora and plant them 2-3" below the soil line and they'll be fine.

    Bookmark   June 30, 2014 at 7:39PM
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katiecater

Thank you! Got 'em in, and crossing my fingers that we don't see another winter like the last!

    Bookmark   July 3, 2014 at 10:07PM
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johnnycabot(Z4b MI.)

Found pics previously taken. Cane on right was 1 inch plus when sawed off below girdling damage. you can see the new growth out both sides.

    Bookmark   July 3, 2014 at 9:51PM
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johnnycabot(Z4b MI.)

I tie vertically here. I would saw your rose off at about 18" and hope for the best. Do you have that rose in sun,? looks shady...Protect your fresh cut, and feed. Your rose looks strong enough to do it. Good Luck!

    Bookmark   July 3, 2014 at 10:04PM
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