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Never saw this one earlier. CdM is new to me this year but seems to be one of my more vigorous newcomers. I like mine. I consider CdM a color shifting chameleon and like it with others that do the same thing. Right now I have it beside Distant Drums although DD isn't taking off the way I'd hoped so I may move it. I think it's pretty with deep-colored purples, too. It is near Ebb Tide but not beside it, since my ET often turns more of a magenta/fuchsia in hot weather. Oddly enough, I also find that it's a better fit with soft apricots than with bright orange. YMMV
Thank you all for so many good suggestions. That first bright bloom was not welcome in my pastel garden, but the color gets prettier as it ages and I surprised myself by really liking this rose a lot. Kes Z suggested pairing it with soft apricots .. I have a couple of propagated starts of Colette (pale peach) and I plan to buy All the Rage (apricot) and Peach Drift next spring, so I will have these colors to play with. I have all winter to think about it. Many thanks for all the great input.
The fall blooms on your Mme Antoine Mari are really lovely. Mine is just starting her Spring flush because I was bit slack dead-heading her winter flowers, so lots of hips developed. Mine grows quite happily in morning sun; I found the flowers opened too quickly in full sun so that I missed that pretty unfurling.
Your small town in Kansas brought a lot of nostalgic memories back for me. My Mom was born and raised in rural Kansas--they didn't even have a small town! She was just born in a county--Jewell. And it was still like that when I last visited. Anyway, when Mom wanted to go to high school, there was no high school in the county, so her Dad paid tuition for her to cross the state line and go to high school in Superior, Nebraska. She went on to graduate from this high school at age 16 as the valedictorian, got her Nebraska teaching credential, and began teaching school at age 16 in Nebraska during the height of the Depression. I was told by a family member that the nearest town in Kansas of any size from Jewell County was 50 miles away, and no one had cars back then. Sorry for going off topic but I wonder if your county could be Jewell, Kate.
And so glad you not only got your Love Song, but at a darn good price. I hope she meets your expectations. Diane
I enjoyed your story, Nana. No--I'm no where near Jewell, but I can empathize with your mom's story. I grew up in South Dakota and my mom used to tell stories like that. I remember once asking my dad why we didn't know and never visited his uncles' families (in Illinois). Dad said, they lived too far away. When I looked puzzled, he thought a moment and then explained that back during his youth, they rarely ever traveled beyond county lines--traveling was too big a chore. Different time/different place.
Sure hope I have some terrific pics of lavender roses next summer. : )
Kate
JFK balled terribly for me. It wouldn't open if there was any kind of humidity. I always called it my bud rose because the buds were gorgeous long and white but that's as far as they ever got. PJPII reliably opened for me every time. I though it was a lot more fragrant too. They were both spotty and a little winter tender here.
Thanks for all your comments. It appears that JFK really could be one of the best HTs. My experience with HTs is that almost none of them are truly healthy without major amounts of pampering. But within those limitations, I have to agree with Buford that JFK flowers have a lot of substance to their petals. I find that very impressive, along with the classic form and that they can last a week or longer on the bush. I just have to get back to spraying with fungicide and regular doses of fertilizer again.
Lisa I think Cool Roses does custom grafting on Fortuniana root stock, but I don't think that is what kind you need for your climate zone - you could always ask if they would graft it for you on something else. I personally haven't asked them for a custom graft as of yet. I have bought some roses from there and they are very nice people. Even if they don't graft on the kind of rootstock that you need they might be able to tell you where or how to go about getting the roses on what you need for your growing area.
Good Luck.
Surprisingly enough, I find that I don't get root suckers of multiflora in my acid clay soil. Seems like I can just whack the bushes with an ax and they go away, unlike Dr. Huey, which will regrow from tiny bits of root left in the soil. As a precautionary measure I took out the three big multiflora that were growing in my yard that came with the property in 2001.
In zones 6/7 any new growth that results from cutting them now will probably not have enough time to harden off before winter sets in, so you will lose it. Not to worry though. Just cut what you want and enjoy them. Hold off on doing any other hard pruning until next spring though. You want to leave as much cane as possible for the rose to store energy in for spring.
I work in a greenhouse. We have discard piles that need to be written off. Usually we wait till we have enough to go to the trouble. Well in that pile one day I was walking by and something bright orange caught my eye. When I got closer I saw that it was a very pretty orange blossom on a little rose that was almost dead. The rose was Orange Triumph, a hardy shrub. I have nursed it back to health at the greenhouse. It has grown well with the extra attention. Sorry I don't have a picture to show you but it might be worth checking out.
Valerie
I love Tropicana, but it can lean toward the coral side of orange. One that I had that I loved was Cary Grant. Huge buds and blooms, strong fragrance, took my breath away everytime I saw it. Unfortunately I don't have it anymore, but may need to put it on my list to buy again. I only had it four years...
Good to know. I'm looking for tan roses, but they must make good cut flowers. The only reason I didn't order it at Rogue Valley is because I didn't want another big climber. I have Mels Heritage on the way and I have been warned that it becomes enormous.
Thank you Roseseek, looks like I dodged the bullet on Butterscotch. I would have been so disappointed to find out after growing it a few years that it did not make good cut flowers.
You're welcome. I sincerely doubt you are going to find any garden rose in those tones that will come close to lasting as long as anything selected for cut flower work. Either their petals are too soft; they have too few petals or not enough petals. Those selected for floral work more often have heavier, waxier petals which stand up to being handled and transported. It's what the catalogs always called "heavy petal substance". It's what makes some roses more suitable for exhibition and some less suitable. If there was an exhibition variety in that shade, it should be closer to what you want than anything scented.
Our deer are urban also. This doe had her twins in the back of our property last Spring. She kept them there about 3 weeks, and then decamped (I don't think she was happy with me taking pictures of them). We have not seen them since then, although there is evidence that some deer are eating and sleeping in our garden at night.
Jackie
They are all so sweet, but I can appreciate the sentiments of those who suffer from the damage deer cause.