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You trim roses in February here. We have forsythia here, so I'll pay attention when they bloom.

Thanks for all your help.

bk

I found resin barrel pots at Home Depot for $20 each. They're 22 1/2 inches in diameter across the top. I used them for the larger of my pot-pet Hybrid Teas. See link below, and pics of mine after planting roses and annuals in them.

:-)

~Christopher

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Unbranded-22-5-in-Resin-Whiskey-Barrel-HDR-505742/203580708

That's just south of Athens. Lots of gardens out there, and the UGA test rose gardens. What an ugly disease.

What short sighted folks to let that many roses get infected before they did anything about it.
Because with RRD, doing nothing, waiting to form a committee to decide what to do, is a recipe for disaster.

Go to Paul Zimmermans videos. (Roses are plants too). I really learned about pruning climbers, and what a difference it has made!

I ended up deciding on an arrangement of curved trellis panels to encompass all the plants, and started trimming (again) before the weather went haywire here. Before our first frost, the rose to the far right had already put out enough new growth I was able to start training it! Since the first attempt was successful, I'll be able to gradually work my way across the arc next year and eventually have the roses eventually back under control (we hope). Will follow with pictures when the weather warms up a bit.

I don't know if you are familiar with the rose data base site called Help Me Find dot com slash roses or not but you can look up all manner of roses on there. I've added a link for Don Juan so you can see some pictures of how it grows. Take note of where the gardens are located so you can see how it will be in similar conditions to yours.

Here is a link that might be useful: Don Juan at HMF

I have a Don Juan on an arch. I am in Southern California and my plant is old.

It blooms great in heat, but mine only gets about 8 feet tall and puts out pretty much straight rather stiff growth. I am not sure I would be able to wrap it around a pillar unless it was a rather large pillar. Everyone that visits leaves chanting Don Juan to remember the name because they like it, but I think I would not pick it for wrapping like you are planning. Mine seems to love some pruning so trying the one cane at a time might give you an idea if it will work or if you need a different rose for the purpose

OK - this is my last comment on the rain. We have had 4 different storms come here in the last 5 days, which I love. We have 20 inches of rain so far since 7/1/2014, which is 200% of our "normal" YTD. So, it appears that I got my wish, and I will be quiet now in gratitude.

Jackie

Lol, proves the old adage, it never rains but what it pours! I know many places have gone from famine to deluge but I'm glad that there has at least been some drought relief for you. Let's hope it now goes to a nice happy medium for everyone!

The suggestion was made that the virus may be rose yellow vein virus.

The only published picture that I am aware of is at:

http://apsjournals.apsnet.org/doi/suppl/10.1094/PDIS-10-12-0981-PDN

Although the caption says: "âÂÂLedaâ rose infected with Rose yellow vein virus.", the article states: "Symptoms observed in the âÂÂLedaâ sample infected with PNRSV and RYVV (vein yellowing and chlorotic mottle in the apex of leaves) were not typical of PNRSV, so they may be caused by RYVV."

http://apsjournals.apsnet.org/doi/abs/10.1094/PDIS-10-12-0981-PDN

I am aware of three pictures of RYVV infected leaves of three other roses. However, the source has not yet been published, and I have not received permission to show them. Do they look like this sample? Well, yes, no, and/or maybe. I do not mean one looks like it, one does not and one maybe looks like it. I mean one person may say they look similar, another person looking at the same pictures may say they are different, and a third person may say maybe - not positive.

Right now an answer as to whether the virus is visible under both warm and cool weather conditions (I feel) would be useful.

Here is a link that might be useful: link to picture

This post was edited by henry_kuska on Fri, Dec 19, 14 at 13:07

maplerbirth--no problem. I have days when I'm "crankier" that others also. : )

Those pop-ups can irritate, can't they. If it weren't for AD-BLOCK, I'm not sure if I could take this site either.

Kate

Summer Wine is where the scent, tremendous foliage, vigor and excellent health came from in Eyes for You and Blue for You. Rhapsody in Blue is also descended from it as is Bull's Eye, but they didn't inherit the amazing health the first two did. Kim

Wow, these are beautiful! I like the radiant glow in the centers of some of these. Here's a picture of my seedling, Paso Doble, which had almost black stripes. It was a seedling of 4th of July. Unfortunately the plant was not vigorous and it is no more.

Kathy, yours is gorgeous too.
My regular gruss can be all over the map as far as color. I think mine is darker right now because it's December in Phoenix and finally gorgeous rose weather.

I have a picture of them side by side also. I am speculating that what I have is not Pink Gruss an Achen because the pink one often has narrower petals towards the centers , can have a button eye , and has more petals ( I counted them) .
I bought my PGaA as Irene Watts. From what I hear no roses in the US sold as Irene Watts are really Irene Watts.
I am not certain about that. My " Irene" plant also seems to have more tea like growth than Gruss. It's more open and airy. To do a better photo study I need more fully opened Gruss blooms.

I have heard great things about Tamora too and will be planting it this spring due to all the positive comments from everyone on the forum. What a great gift from your hubbie! Have fun choosing, can't wait to hear what you finally decide on.

I love my Christopher Marlow.
It does throw out long canes but overall I love how the blooms start out pink and change to salmon within a few days.
I only cut back the canes that get in my way.

Hi Elizabeth, I'm in the northern VA/ Washington DC area. The foliage on my roses hangs on all winter. When new growth begins in spring, the old ratty stuff finally comes off (and, yes, it looks pretty darned ugly by then). Sometimes I get sick of looking at it and strip it by hand, most years I just look the other way. If you want to use a dormant spray, don't worry about the old foliage dropping, pick a weekend in January or February when the weather is relatively pleasant to work outside and go for it.

Thanks, Cecily! I appreciate the feedback! It is very helpful!

Cool. I'll hafta check there.

I noticed Peace, Pink Peace, and Chicago Peace amongst the non- patented varieties being sold, Beth. I'm sure you'll be able to find one this year. I don't know who supplies the HDs near you, but the Chicago Peace that Coiner Nursery sells seems to be the real deal and I've seen plants from them at HDs near me in the past.

Jay

Yes, some varieties are highly susceptible, some not. Living in a cool, damp climate, I find resistance to be one of the most valuable qualities in a rose.

This post was edited by michaelg on Tue, Dec 9, 14 at 10:54

I am happy with my Blue Girl now.

I grew Tiffany for many years in zone 7b Virginia. The blooms looked just like those in Sara-Ann's first picture and never smelled to me like apples. The fragrance was INTENSE. The dominant scent is Damask but with fruity and tea rose elements as well. It's offspring BELINDA'S DREAM expresses the fruity scent much more clearly, but smells like raspberries and not apples. However, all roses belong to the same family as apple and pear trees. Your nose could be sensitized to this particular scent, in which case most roses are going to have some apple-like tones in their fragrance profile.

No, I definitely ONLY smell apple with this one rose - whatever it is. :)
I got rid of Frederic Mistral because I smelled grass whenever I sniffed the blooms. Grass???
Comte de Champagne smelled like dog poop to me. That one's gone. LOL

I love, love, love damask scent and I also love, love fruity smells.

I must try to find Belinda's Dream because raspberry is my favorite scent by far. Makes me swoon. :)

I'm soooo looking forward to getting Tiffany!!!

Thanks!
Carol

I gave away Red Cross (Love's Promise), Camille Pissarro and Souvenir de la Malmaison because I couldn't smell any scent. I kept Hilde, hoping it would come good. It hasn't. And it's not just my nose at issue. Nobody got any scent from any of these. Red Cross now lives at a friend's place where it must be happier because it's finally scented - to everyone's nose. I wonder whether this is because the nights are colder where my friend lives.

The roses I have that are noticeably scented here would probably be overpowering there, but I'm not parting with them. They are: Angel Face, Fire Fighter, Ebb Tide, Old Fragrance, Jude the Obscure, Pope JPII and Nahema.

Quite an interesting discussion.

So what about roses that you buy from a nursery potted which are very fragrant, stay fragrant for the rest of the season and then come back the next year with no fragrance?

Last year I planted the following roses and they were all fragrant when I purchased them and put out fragrant blooms in my garden as well:

Oh My!
Arctic Flame

Then this year, I got the same flowers but zero fragrance regardless of what time of the day I sniff.

Any theories on what happened there?