22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

great poem, bluegirl!!!!!

lark ascending, there are any number of roses that might be, the camera is extremely far from the flowers to make an exact ID.

I have a Zephy on Dr Huey. When the Dr first appeared, I was horrified and was about to whack off the sucker. But he looked so handsome with Zephy's pink that I decided to wait until they had finished blooming. Four years later, they are still doing their spring dance. They also blackspot and defoliate together, but by the time that happens, the hydrangea in front of them has leafed out and redirects the eye of the beholder.

Thanks. In all honesty the roses weren't that hard to move. Except for the Lady Banks. The Vitex(Chaste Tree), bottlebush, Gardenias, and the Lady Banks about killed me though.

I would actually say the majority of my roses aren't modern. I have a few, but the majority are old or at least old style (David Austin).

I am glad Love Song didn't die on me, it literally took about 10 months of removing suckers. Of course I had let two big suckers grow for about 9 months before I realized they were suckers and not Love song.

Your rose bed looks gorgeous! I hope you continue to take pictures as they mature and keep blooming. Gosh I miss summer.

Michaela

a close up, this was a week old bloom that had some heavy rains.

Thanks Kingcobb, that is a lovely rose...reminds me of Diamond Jubilee which I have. I'm looking for an intense yellow/lemon...it's going between Outback Hero and City of Goulburn....one intense orange tones and the other pale orange/yellowy pink, so the colour needs to be homogenous to create the right effect. With all of the above suggestions I'm sure I'll get there in the end.

I write about a uke-playing moose and his band, so when I was asked to put a name, I chose the character.

Also, I like moose. :D

This thread is so much fun!

JoeMoose, can you give us some titles? Moose: Alces alces. ;)

Ingrid - once upon a time I wrote a 400+ page dissertation on the red wolf. One of the great things about being a grad student in such a small field as zoo-based conservation biology is that your work is cutting edge. I was part of the species recovery planning group for the red wolf for three years running. I had several opportunities to be near/around/in contact with actual red wolves in the breeding program. Other species too. I always felt extremely privileged to be a part of that work. Of course, I also am intimately familiar with less appealing aspects of animal care (i.e. cleaning up after them), but even that made me feel lucky. Funny thing about red wolves - in reality they're not that rare. Species distinctions within the dog family are very difficult to tease out, as wolves by nature range over large areas and most North American species can interbreed. Differences get fuzzy. Although the red wolf is extremely rare in the US (all current animals are descended from a group of just 14 founders), there is a large population of "Eastern grey wolves" near where I live in Canada that have been shown to be genetically indistinguishable from red wolves. The reason they aren't listed as red wolves (Canis rufus) or part of the breeding program is completely arbitrary in terms of nature: different governments, different laws, different conservation programs. It's ridiculous that species management must fall within political boundaries, but there you have it. In fact, it can be argued that species distinctions in general are naught but a human construct...

Sorry for the long lecture. I do go on a bit - I'm a mite excitable about these things. I do the same to my non-gardener friends about gardening. And yes, my garden spreadsheets include scientific names. :)

Aqua Eyes, I'd bet you're still cute. ;)

I have grown Moondance for years. It's one of my favorite roses. Almost never without blooms, the color is outstanding, it's rain tolerant, the blooms last a long time and remain fresh looking. Also a well balanced and attractive shrub as floris go. Until last winter it was over 5' tall and had always been one of my better winter survivors. Unfortunately, like most of my roses, it got hit hard by a spring thaw-freeze cycle and died back to the ground. By the end of the summer it was up to about 3'. Gosh I love this rose, I'm so happy it came back.

Anyhow, everything black-spots in my garden. Our climate is very humid and so I spray with Honor Guard. Even with spraying you can see which roses are more susceptible to BS; Moondance is about average.

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This post was edited by ratdogheads on Mon, Dec 8, 14 at 19:21

That's really helpful to know. I have grown Iceberg in the past and it does get BS bad for me. I try not to spray at all, and am fine with some less than perfect foliage. Though this bed is in a highly visible area, which means I may break down and spray to keep things looking somewhat neat. On the other hand, if a rose is really susceptible to BS it wouldn't make sense to put it smack out front for all the world to see its nakedness.

Gosh, I hadn't counted on 5' tall in our zone... I guess I can still grow it, but it just moved more to the end of the bed, closer the 6' tall viburnum shrub. Thank for that info, ratdoghead!

ps: let me know if you want me to remove that photo because it is so large ..... it might slow down this thread.

this link might help with file sizes: (i'm still trying to figure it out).

http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/photo/msg0215473631213.html

this photo (again please tell me to remove) was reduced in PAINT to 19.9 kb, I reduced the horizontal pixels to 200 and maintained aspect ratio.

i'm not sure how this helps you because we're probably not using the same programs...so first of all which program are you using?

I think according to that link using photobucket is helpful so you can re size before you post.

hmm edit ...I just saw the photo in the preview and I have the same problem as you seem to have....

when I view it on my computer the photo is at least half that size ... 1.5 inches x 1 inch.... but very sharp and clear.... now it is 5 times the size and blurry.

Hehe, I'm kind of glad I'm not the only one who has issues wit the posting of clear pictures :)

Thank you for looking that info on the leaves for me .. but bronze tipped young leaves they are not so maybe something is wrong with it. There's some buds that came along with the new growth so I'm going to wait and see if there's a difference in one of the old blooms versus a bloom from the slimy leaves.

It's gorgeous. I love it very much.

Gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous 'Nuff said.

I can relate to changing taste in roses. However, instead of changing taste, I would say that I am "expanding my rosey horizon". I will always love the perfect and formal flower of the HT. However over the years, I am warming up to a lot of old garden roses especially D.A. roses as I like their informality. Lately, due to this forum and the influence of fellow posters, I am beginning to warm up to single flower roses.

I think the changes in my taste in roses reflect the changes in my life as I get older. I realized I prefer simple and non-fussy, perhaps less formality in my life. I used to love very formal gardens but I love the informal, cottage type of gardens now. I now prefer the "natural" look instead of the formal enforced garden style.

I have enjoyed reading everyone's comments, thank you. Mariannese, your picture is lovely, looks like a peaceful retreat.

K&M Nursery isn't bare root but it may be your only good source for Crystalline. I know I'll be getting 4 this coming spring. All of their roses are on fortuniana root stock. You shouldn't have any trouble with this root stock. I live in zone 7 and over half of my garden is on fortuniana root stock. K&M has a nice web site and a great selection of roses. I also order from Edmunds, Palatine and Wisconsin Roses. I get own root roses from Roses Unlimited.

You can go to directgardening.com. There are lots of bare root roses with very cheap price.

For the sake of argument, that picture doesn't necessarily mean the rose is taking root very well (although I'm sure it actually is!): I once thought I had a rose cutting rooting well because it grew a whole set of leaves within about three weeks. But then it started dying and I looked and it hadn't rooted at all! I think all the growth was just from whatever it had stored in the cutting, and it had just used up what it had and gave out!

Looks good. Mine are due to arrive any day. Can't wait!

^ actually wait, I take that back...that's a contentious thing to say, even if I'm joking :)

One of the coolest surgeries I read about recently was about leprosy: people with leprosy don't have good pain receptors, and a tiny bit of pain from our eyes drying out is what signals us to blink, so people with leprosy can tend to never blink and therefore go blind.

A missionary surgeon a read about thought to tunnel a piece of chewing muscle up patients' cheeks and onto their eyelids, such that as long as they chewed gum, they retained their sight. Cool, huh?

I've worked with surgeons all my adult life and they are usually very confident and focused individuals and that sometimes can be construed as cocky. That being said some are just plain arrogant and A-holes and some are very nice and caring towards their patients.

Hi
@Ingrid-my yarden is a huge mess right now. My soil is sandy, so I am trying to amend the soil by digging holes and dumping kitchen scrap/grass clipping. On top of that, I have a huge mound of soil from the holes that I dont know what to do with.The good news is that I found a place where I can get horse manure..Yay! Will post picture when the yarden(yard/garden) is more "presentable"

@thonotorose-I am right behind Disney World, so close that we can see the fireworks and hear the booming noise .
@msdorkgirl-I too use too much fertilizer! It is hard to gauge how much to give and how often when it keeps raining on and off. Right now I am experimenting with alfalfa, cracked corn, molasses etc..I spray only when I cannot stand to look at the BS anymore. Right now I am trying out Kirk"s castille soap for BS.
Here is another pic..i.I love having what I call "a living bouquet": combination of roses and short growing,everflowering perennial because roses in my yarden dont bloom like those in cooler area, plus the blooms dont last long. The perennials keeps the yarden colorful when the roses are resting.

I haven't settled on where I'll be living so everything is in pots--- I'm not sure how long we'll be in this location either, so I can only dream that someday I can put together a living bouquet too.

How are your David Austins/English roses doing in Florida? What do you find is most helpful? I imagine Florida has similar weather to Hawaii, but the one English rose we have in the Urban Garden Center produces two inch Crocus Roses only so that made me think that they're not good in 300 day bright sun :(

Seil, I hope you have a more mild winter than last year. Your toughest rose survivors remain, so I hope they'll be okay.

Hi Seil,

You were ahead of me this year. I hope you have an easier winter for your roses than last year.

I finished mine yesterday. Same as last year, pots in the unheated cold room, plants in the garden wrapped in straw and then covered with light recycling bags. I had the best cold climate rose garden, with the most cane survival ever last year, so we shall see if my unorthodox method works as well this year.

We got our Christmas tree today and will decorate tomorrow. Gardening done till late March now. Just cyber roses for the next few months.

Cheers, Rick