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ArbutusOmnedo 10/24

Ah, I thought I posted this in the Antique Roses forum, but please chime in if you have any experience with Ferraria!

Jay

    Bookmark     December 4, 2014 at 4:59PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

'Chinatown' smells deliciously of peaches, and very strongly. It opens a strong yellow and fades toward light pink in the sun. Sometimes described as resistant to blackspot, it was fairly susceptible for me. Mine was own-root and plenty vigorous, unless you want a full sized climber. Growth was upright with fairly stiff 7' basals, not particularly full for me, but I was trying to grow it as a climber. Should make a good large shrub with the right pruning.

    Bookmark     November 28, 2014 at 10:15AM
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vasue VA (7A Charlottesville)(7A Charlottesville)

Just looking at grandiflora Heart of Gold/Heart O' Gold & thought of you. If what you really want is Gold Medal with fragrance, this may be your rose. Broadway x Gold Medal

Here is a link that might be useful: Heart O' Gold

This post was edited by vasue on Thu, Dec 4, 14 at 14:15

    Bookmark     December 4, 2014 at 2:11PM
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gardentiller

Sorry, duplicated.

Braverichard
For sure, the new growth is sucker from the original rootstock Dr Huey.
I never have had experience or trouble with the rose under freezing temperature. Because I live in the one of the hottest region in the world. We suffered from the heat, but this happens for everywhere.
Your rose had been cared very good and healthy, nice cane. For me, I would use the healthy new sucker to graft with other favorite varieties on it, it will award you with bloom in just few weeks when the weather is warm enough and a lot of fun!
The T-budding, Chip Budding and Cleft grafting do good to success.

This post was edited by gardentiller on Thu, Dec 4, 14 at 13:40

    Bookmark     December 4, 2014 at 1:35PM
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braverichard (6a, North MO)

Thanks for your suggestion on using the Dr. Huey but I already thew it away.

    Bookmark     December 4, 2014 at 2:11PM
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ehlerslw

I had a knockout rose do that two years ago. the canes look really brown like my did. I went ahead and dug my up and got rid of it. It was five years old when it happened. I pull the rose shrub out with no problem so maybe the roots were already dead. just to be safe see what happens over the rest of the winter and see if it puts out new canes at the bottom next spring if it does not get rid of it.

    Bookmark     November 30, 2014 at 9:56AM
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Jesse09

I'm not an rose expert at all, but when my roses weaken, I use HB-101 and that helps a lot. Somehow it helps them get stronger and thicker, and keeps away the bugs. You might want to look into it.

    Bookmark     December 4, 2014 at 12:47AM
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martinca_gw

Thank you all. :-) Did not expect them to produce such full blossoms this time of year.

    Bookmark     December 3, 2014 at 8:18PM
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seil zone 6b MI

They're beautiful and a nice Holiday surprise!

Exhibitors have been trying to figure out the when to prune for a show thing for a long time!

    Bookmark     December 3, 2014 at 8:38PM
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seil zone 6b MI

I would go ahead and do it now. In your zone I don't think it would be a big problem. Temps would have to get down to about 28 degrees for the rose to be damaged. If your roses don't go completely dormant during the winter than you should be able to re-pot it at any time. The biggest thing you need to do is keep the existing root ball intact when you transplant it. If you keep it intact and just move it into a bigger pot with more soil it should go on with out any problem.

    Bookmark     November 30, 2014 at 4:09PM
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philippos

Excellent advice, thank you so much, as always.

    Bookmark     December 2, 2014 at 1:59AM
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Corona makes a Felco clone of good quality and a Felco clone of not so good quality. The good one is very good. I have both Felcos and the Corona version. I have a long pole pruner to deadhead the big climbing roses. That really comes in handy.

Really handy is the little sharpener Corona makes that works well on the bypass blades. Sharp clean cuts every time. Some 0000 steel wool and oil to clean the blades keeps them like new.

The West Country gauntlet rose gloves have been very durable. They are made out of some sort of synthetic fabric that has been very tough and protective, and can be machine-washed. I can destroy a pair of quality garden gloves in a week, but these have held up for over a year, a record for me.

    Bookmark     December 1, 2014 at 11:49AM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

We bought our original bypass Felco pruners (and loppers in two sizes) in 1987-1988. We still have them, and with careful hand-sharpening when needed, we still have the original blades.

(Yes, the blades ARE replaceable. Ours have not needed replacement.)

    Bookmark     December 1, 2014 at 9:31PM
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Embothrium(USDA 8 Sunset 5 WA)

You're more likely to have a few canes with hard pruning than not, as has been pointed out stem tissue reduction reduces ability to grow back afterward. In fact, a British study showed that shearing bush roses like a hedge resulted in increased flower production over the beloved "opening up of the center". But if you think what is being done at the park is to your taste then by all means go for it.

My only other comment is that I would not assume that what I saw happening at a public park was always the result of someone there being in the know. The fact that so many public parks continue to undertake things like formal bedding out of flowering plants in the first place shows that the thinking involved has often not changed in a very long time. Tradition and routine can be a big part of the culture in such settings.

And pressure to keep things the same can come from outside, as well as within a parks organization. For instance, the testing-of-the-waters changing of one set of hanging flower baskets on the downtown streets here to harmonious pastels (instead of the traditional loud, clashing color combinations) one year resulted in an outcry.

This post was edited by bboy on Mon, Dec 1, 14 at 13:26

    Bookmark     December 1, 2014 at 1:25PM
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RedSun (Zone 6, NJ)

I think we've had good discussions on this. I've heard of what other folks do. Good to know.

There is no perfect solution to almost anything. If we see something to our liking, then we can create the same effect. There are just so many ways to get things done.

I think it is time to close this topics. Or we just go circles....

Happy gardening.

    Bookmark     December 1, 2014 at 1:43PM
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buford(7 NE GA)

I'm glad I had my roses delivered in March.

    Bookmark     November 30, 2014 at 8:17AM
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Brittie - La Porte, TX 9a

I received mine (I was weak and made a small order) last Tuesday.

    Bookmark     November 30, 2014 at 9:43AM
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lesmc

I got mine a week late also. I did get them planted as I dug the holes weeks ago. We have had early cold weather so I am keeping my fingers crossed, I have had great luck with fall planting from Palatine and hope for success this time,too! Hope your roses settle in and glow in the spring. Lesley

    Bookmark     November 29, 2014 at 8:47PM
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bellarosa(z5/IL)

Lesley, I did plant roses last year in the Fall that I received from Palatine, with no problem. I was actually surprised that they made it through the Winter given the awful polar vortex that hit us pretty hard. Let's hope that we don't see a polar vortex part 2 this year! Good luck with your roses and I look forward to seeing pics of your beautiful garden. :-)

    Bookmark     November 29, 2014 at 11:45PM
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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

BTW - the reddish rose in back of the photo above is Don Marshall, another mini. You can see that Rookie is a little taller than that mini, with considerably larger flowers (and prettier, in my book).

Here's a closeup of a bloom

Cynthia

    Bookmark     November 27, 2014 at 4:06PM
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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

Thank you Cynthia! The thorns in the first picture look like my Mystery rose but the blooms are different. Might be the climate or immaturity of my plant

    Bookmark     November 28, 2014 at 12:41AM
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In The PinkPink things blooming now at Humpty Dumpty House: Alnwick stretching to find the sun.
Posted by Sow_what? Southern California Inland November 24, 2014
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kentucky_rose zone 6

Love the pictures!

    Bookmark     November 27, 2014 at 1:40PM
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bethnorcal9

Pretty pinks. Love the dahlias!

    Bookmark     November 27, 2014 at 11:10PM
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mendocino_rose(z8 N CA.)

Welcome Steven.

    Bookmark     November 26, 2014 at 11:13AM
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AnneCecilia z5 MI(5a)

Welcome, Steven. Glad to meet you and I enjoyed your lovely 'thank you' posting. You have good instincts for a great group of mentors to follow here; there are so many wonderful contributors on this forum.
Hope to read more about your garden and your roses in future,
Anne

    Bookmark     November 27, 2014 at 6:21AM
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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

dingo2001, I put the collars on yesterday and filled with all the existing mulch and some leaves that were in the rose bed, so I don't need to add more mulch now. I live in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, so not the East coast, but the Midwest. Lots of places that normally carry mulch that I use were out by September. They must think it is a summer thing. Grrrrrrrr. Oh well, it worked out though. When I take the collars off in Spring, I will be able to just scoop the old mulch around the roses & get rid of the old so I can add new.

    Bookmark     November 26, 2014 at 2:08PM
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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

Thanks for the advice Seil. Usually, my roses are okay in the winter, except the last polar vortex we had last year. I usually don't really winterize them except put a mound of soil on top of them to protect the base of the plant. Almost all of my older plants comes back. The only ones that may not is the D.A. roses and Climbing Eden that I planted this year. I think it is too late for me now but I will check this weekend.

    Bookmark     November 26, 2014 at 9:17PM
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bart_2010(8/9 Italy)

...by the way,dark_ lady in Virginia, when does Maid of Kent open it's blooms in your garden?After Super Dorothy,as in frances'? thanks, bart

    Bookmark     November 26, 2014 at 9:30AM
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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

What a beautiful rose. This is the first time I've heard of it. How is the repeat bloom, since it blooms later in the season.

    Bookmark     November 26, 2014 at 9:10PM
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