21,402 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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ordphien(9)

This was interesting and it didn't quite come out right.
But these are the colours as how they appear from further back to me.
The one colour I see most often I have no pictures of.
Go figure.

    Bookmark   June 20, 2014 at 4:16PM
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Desertgarden-Las Vegas, Z8b/9a @ 2800 ft

Ordphien,

Thank you. This rose is so unusual compared to the much of what I see. I find myself drawn to it. The comments on this thread, and your images have been helpful.

Lynn

    Bookmark   June 20, 2014 at 7:24PM
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RachaelLemmon(5)

There are some perfectly round small holes in the leaves and some in the smaller buds .. The tan areas do have a lace appearance . Is there anything I can use to deter these insects? This particular rose doesn't get bayer product and such because it's very close to many of my nectar plants and also some lady bug favorites, so I try not to spray it for insects , just disease. I have milkweeds/ yarrow/ joe pye just beyond this bed and I'm very careful not to spray near my butterfly plants.

    Bookmark   June 20, 2014 at 3:06PM
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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

You have to look on the underside of the affected leaves to see if they are still there. Probably not.

Most of us have rose slugs every year. Wasps and other predators usually control them. Next spring, watch for the damage and wipe the tiny worms off the underside with your thumb. If you can't keep up with that, spray the affected areas with a spinosad product, reaching the underside of the leaves with thorough coverage.

    Bookmark   June 20, 2014 at 3:48PM
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seil zone 6b MI

It does bloom in big sprays for the most part but occasionally there are single ones too.

    Bookmark   June 20, 2014 at 2:50PM
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boncrow66

Seil yours is beautiful!

    Bookmark   June 20, 2014 at 2:56PM
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hartwood

North central VA, first beetle spotted on the 14th. There are a few more out there now, but not bad ... yet.

    Bookmark   June 20, 2014 at 12:29PM
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seil zone 6b MI

My friend up north has them now but I haven't seen any here yet. (KNOCK WOOD!!!)

    Bookmark   June 20, 2014 at 1:28PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I planted a new Thomas Affleck rose in May and I notice its getting some powdery mildew on it. Actually first rose I ever seen with PM here...

    Bookmark   June 20, 2014 at 11:33AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Definitely more than one thing going on here. For PM you can get a fungicide spray. It will keep it from getting worse but the leaves already with it on them will not clear up. You'll need to wash those off. Just use a good hard spray of water and that will also help to dislodge the rose slugs that are putting holes in the leaves. Make sure to spray up under the leaves to get the back sides where the slugs are.

    Bookmark   June 20, 2014 at 1:27PM
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seil zone 6b MI

Chance are they'll just send up new ones so don't be oo sad.

    Bookmark   June 19, 2014 at 11:41PM
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flaurabunda(6a, Central IL)

I've had the same problem this spring. Had to prune the dickens out of everyone, and there's very minimal new growth from the canes I left. Most (about 90%) of the new growth were new canes from the graft, and on the plants exposed to the highest wind velocities I have lost over 70% of each of those new canes.

I tried to blame it on critters, but after the 3rd go-around I was able to stand on the deck & watch the damage occur on the last bout of storms.

    Bookmark   June 20, 2014 at 11:53AM
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Those were bare root roses I planted in MayAre they hybrid teas?
Posted by tigerloveroses June 20, 2014
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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

Yes

    Bookmark   June 20, 2014 at 10:32AM
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HollyKline

Thanks for posting this! I had considered going this year but ended up not being able to - next year I'm hoping to give it a shot. :)

    Bookmark   June 20, 2014 at 9:39AM
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diane_nj 6b/7a

If the society you joined was Jersey Shore, our next meeting is in August, and our show is in September. :-)

    Bookmark   June 20, 2014 at 10:28AM
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seil zone 6b MI

Your garden is lovely, Holly!

    Bookmark   June 10, 2014 at 6:31PM
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HollyKline

Thank you! :)

    Bookmark   June 20, 2014 at 9:46AM
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anntn6b(z6b TN)

(Expletive), who'd a thunk that Chili Thrips would get to San Antonio that fast?

Sorry for y'all.

    Bookmark   June 19, 2014 at 11:54AM
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Brittie - La Porte, TX 9a

Urg. They must be on their way here then. :/

    Bookmark   June 20, 2014 at 8:36AM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I do not have an answer for you but I sure do wish you better luck with the new ones you planted and hopefully the ones you pruned grow back much better!

    Bookmark   June 19, 2014 at 8:52PM
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buford(7 NE GA)

I think for us in the SE, it was the combination of the cool wet summer we had and then the brutal winter. Everyone I know has lost not only roses, but all kinds of shrubs. On of my neighbors has a nice bed of hollies that have not come back. Usually these don't even lose their leaves.

I hear you about the Dr Huey roots. I had to dig up some dead roses and the roots (which were alive and well) were HUGE. I am sure I didn't get them all and will be fighting off suckers for awhile.

    Bookmark   June 20, 2014 at 6:27AM
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debbee(9)

I have 5 new tree roses on my back deck and I noticed all 5 of them have half eaten holes on the leaves. I've read here it's the cutter bees doing the damage. I sprayed something on the trees for insects so now I'm worried I may have hurt the bee and given it poison to take back to the nest. Any answers for me?

    Bookmark   June 19, 2014 at 5:34PM
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cold_weather_is_evil(9)

>> what I wouldn't give to have a leaf cutter this year. ... VERY few bees. I plant a few things to bring them in

Some sources say they can be enticed to stay around by supplying housing like one would do for mason bees.

    Bookmark   June 19, 2014 at 5:54PM
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nummykitchen

Thanks, everyone!

Jazzmom -- Here are my own roots, all of the others on the first list were grafted.

did NOT survive

Raspberry Cream Twirl Climber (really surprising since it had almost no winter die back the previous year)
Nicola Parade mini
Promise
Natasha Monet

DID make it :)

Denali (weak)
Steppin' Out (weak)
Memoriam
Pope John Paul II
Candyland
mini pink Kordana
Baby Paradise
Cupcake
Cafe Ole
Green/White Victory grocery store potted rose
Lagerfeld
Peppermint Parfait
Hot pink kordana mini
multiple pink grocery store minis
Vulcano Kordana mini
Smile Kordana mini
Irish Cream (tiny band from Burlington that survived in ground, very surprised!!)
Rainbow (weak)
Grimaldi
Henri Matisse
Dick Clark
Julio Iglesias (weak)
Headliner
Pop Warner
Harry Wheatcroft (weak)
Michelangelo the Painter
Strawberry Ice
Mexicana (weak)
Gene Boerner (weak)

    Bookmark   June 16, 2014 at 2:01PM
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mgleason56(Michigan 5b)

I lost almost all of my Vintage Garden roses I purchased last year and were stored in my garage. Never before was my garage so cold that water bottles froze solid. WAs always a safe way to protect new roses until this past winter.

    Bookmark   June 19, 2014 at 4:39PM
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bayarea_girl(NorCA 9)

Thank you sow_what for the good advice.

    Bookmark   June 19, 2014 at 3:06PM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I gave up on being overly patient. Their are certain things I expect from a rose or any plant/shrub in our garden so they either perform or they get the ax. Lifes to short.... ;-)

    Bookmark   June 19, 2014 at 4:29PM
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roseseek

Many garden centers, home improvement stores which have "garden departments", even Dollar Store type outlets sell packages of thin bamboo stakes, usually stained green. They range from a foot to six feet in length, are packaged in plastic bags and sell usually for under $5. Often the shortest lengths contain about a dozen with the longer ones containing six. They're perfect for staking the errant single stems of plants such as you describe. Kim

    Bookmark   June 19, 2014 at 12:18AM
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jerijen(Zone 10)

Unless this is a miniature rose -- or even if it is -- a 10" pot isn't big enough for your rose. And Terra Cotta pots aren't good choices for roses.

It probably won't produce mature growth unless it has some room to grow roots.

    Bookmark   June 19, 2014 at 12:14PM
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