22,795 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

It's impossible that you could get enough of a rootball to support all that foliage. It would have to be cut back a whole lot anyway.

Just think, wouldn't you be happy to be receiving a bare-root standard in a big box from Edmunds? Cut it back about half-way and strip the leaves before digging.

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seil zone 6b MI

I know it's tough but it's for the best. They will grow back!

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scstieglitz

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I turned them over and def small bugs with some white fuzzy webby substance on them. I'm going to try neem oil on them and see if it helps.

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cecily(7 VA)

Washing the bush every day for three or four days would be more effective than neem (and doesn't have the potential to burn foliage in hot weather vwhen mites are most prevalent). Good luck.

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jo_pyeweed(z9 SF Bay Area)

Joe - that's a relief to read that your problem isn't like mine. That cold snap you mention could have done it. Hope you see new growth soon!

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Joe Moose, Zone 9A

Update: Yes, it was the cold front wrecking havoc. The bush is filled with lil' shoots of green, so yay! Thanks for all of your help. :D

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huskymom87

Amazing advice. Thank you!

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Joe Moose, Zone 9A

I got a very ripe hip from our Paradise bush, and the seeds have been well-scrubbed and now in the fridge for stratification. Hopefully, I'll get a rose or three out of it. *crosses fingers*

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aviastar 7A Virginia

Glad someone mentioned toxoplasmosis! As a pregnant gardener, a neighborhood cat using my yard would outright stop me from any gardening for at least a season. It is not something to be messed around with and I'd be furious if I was banned from my garden because you can't be bothered to keep your pet off my property!

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summersrhythm_z6a

If the cats are wild, trap them and send them to SPCA. If they're your neighbors, trap them and give them to the animal control cops, the owners have to pay a fee to get their cats back, I think it's $45 each for my town. It's easy to say, hard to do. One of my neighbors cat always in my yard, they're good people, so the cat just becomes part of my garden......still not a cat person.

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hoovb zone 9 sunset 23

24" size best with very bushy, compact growers--maybe something like 'Gourmet Popcorn'. A 24" standard with a big HT like 'Memorial Day' ends up looking like a grafted bush that's been planted too high. HTs in general look bad as standards, but they sell, so growers continue to offer them.

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drizzle530(Zone 9, NorCal)

Thank you, hoovb! I went back to the nursery today and flipped thru the books... while I did not find *exactly* what I was looking for, I settled on a 24" Julio Iglesias who will hopefully be just as fantastic :)

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Kippy(SoCal zone 10. Sunset Zone 24)

I have Stormy Weather it is in a prime spot but I am not to thrilled with this one, maybe this will the year for it but it is very stiff, tons of thorns and no rebloom. It is puting on some mass this year so maybe it will improve

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ilovegardening(10a San Gabriel Valley of L.A.)

Here's another update: The biggest of the three Purple Splashes that I planted last year is growing LIKE CRAZY. Seriously, its branches started to really spread a couple weeks ago, and it's now winding its way through the chain link fence I planted it next to. The second biggest is doing fine, but its branches aren't nearly as long as the biggest one--yet. And, of course, the third one...well, it died. :(

I'll take and post pics soon.

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Beth zone 8a Dallas, TX

The bugs don't bother me and I just flick them away when they come close. They do lay a lot of eggs of very voracious eating larva and they are the problem. I just want to keep the larva from becoming bugs.

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seil zone 6b MI

If you are talking about using Grub X or Milky Spore I don't think it would be a problem in a pot. Just read the directions very carefully and don't use too much. Because of the nature of pots things get flushed through quickly so it shouldn't be any problem.

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nickjoseph(5 Milwaukee, WI)

"Yet the red roses were identical to the other greener stems & gorgeous.">>>>Those were the branches that I said I believe were basil branches, so no; that's not the problem I was referring to. It was the breakable, soft pink growth at the bottom of the bush next to the bush on the ground.

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seil zone 6b MI

If they are grafted roses and the graft is buried below ground then it is possible these are the correct variety and not root stock coming up. Usually root stock will come up a bit of a distance from the bud union but good new basal breaks from the graft will be closer in to the bud union. Being red or whitish is normal. They haven't had enough light yet to turn green. Once they get bigger, more mature and get more sun they will green up. The only way to know for sure if those new shoots are from the graft is to dig around them and see where they are coming from, above or below the graft. It would be a terrible shame to take off perfectly good new canes on the chance that they are root stock. Check first!

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fduk_gw UK zone 3 (US zone 8)

Ugh, just discovered that the underside of bloody (literally) Agnes is infested with some form of running grass. Come through from next door, because of course it has!

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zack_lau z6 CT

Sounds like tree roots--HTs are no match for maple tree roots, so I either have to dig up the HT and replant, or plant a vigorous once bloomer like Felcite Parmentier.

What makes crabgrass well known is that its ideal habitat is a lawn that has been frequently mowed--someone who does this is likely to be a very good customer at the lawn and garden store. Plus the fact that you can sell effective techniques for eradication.

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michaelg(7a NC Mts)

Kate is correct. Also BS can't easily spread if there is no rain at all or only a daytime shower that dries completely within several hours. However, here we have moderate temperatures all summer and usually, frequent periods of prolonged wetting. Here, BS is relentless.

The conazole fungicides like Bayer Disease Control are able to kill the fungus inside the leaf. Therefore, if you scout twice a week, you can wait until small spots appear before spraying. The leaf can be saved if you spray within 10 days of germination or within a few days of spots becoming visible.

So spraying every two weeks is routine in the worst areas, but elsewhere, you can get good control with less spraying than that.

The conazole fungicides are not widely distributed but are available online.

Good luck, warpig.

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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

I heard that in order for BS to form, the leaves have to be wet for 8 hours or so. We've had almost constant rain (sorry Cali folks, I wish I could send it to you) so the conditions are ripe for BS. I also scale back spraying in the hotter, drier months.

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Cool!

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sara_ann-z6bok

Good luck, I wish you many beautiful roses!

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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

When I read your title Sara I thought you had discovered the rose HOE. Lol! I absolutely love that rose. I did love reading your post also. This is the most awesome time of year. The first few days we get to work outside after a long winter is so awesome it just brings us back to life. My sweet grandson also helps me outside. He was helping me pot up some pots with annuals and last for a few minutes then he's ready to move on. I think you will find lots of people on here with your same sentiment about working outside in such perfect weather. Hope everyone has an awesome spring!!!

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sam 5a Adirondack

This is one time I don't mind getting my hands dirty.

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kentucky_rose zone 6

Mhistina, Does the ornamac kill all grass or just the Bermuda grass?

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mhistina

It kills just the Bermuda grass. It is very selective on what it kills. It has a list of things you should keep it away from. If you google it, you can see that too. :)

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