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Here's a link to a handout that was created by a number of cities in N. Texas as part of an education effort. Read the notes at the bottom closely about the decision to allow infected plants to go the recycle location. The mites can't live without a live host, nor can the virus.
http://ccmgatx.org/media/89696/RREC-Handout-from-Claude-Graves.pdf
What about this? Snip the infected roses into smaller bits over a garbage can to collect in there. Squirt some dishwashing detergent in there, then fill with water. This will drown any mites still living on the canes. If you leave it in there for a few days, things should start decomposing -- or at least softening. If you have a compost pile, the material should be safe at this point for adding to it -- the virus-transmitting mites won't feed on decaying rose canes, and any mites still on the rose canes will be dead, anyway. Cover the stuff well with whatever other material you add to the compost pile.
If you don't have a compost pile, and don't plan on starting one, then just leave the stuff to steep in the soapy water for as long as you can stand it -- it might get stinky after a while -- then pour out the water and send the solids off to wherever the yard waste ends up. Doing so should prevent spreading either the mites or the virus into their compost.
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~Christopher
You need to determine if you are in a quarantine zone for something or not first. Then follow the rules form CDFA. Bare rooting your plants was the best way to bring things in according the CA officials I spoke to. In that case, dig them up, hose off all the dirt, wrap them in some damp paper for the ride and keep them wet and most of all follow the rules or they will kindly take them off your hands for you and destroy them.
Please research this and go in prepared. We lived in CA for six years. My husband lived in CA when we got married in 1998 and I was moving from Texas. No one warned me about CA laws and I stood beside my car in tears as some very unfeeling border agents destroyed 52 african violets I had lovingly grown for years.
I have Iceberg (own root) and really love it - in fact, it's one of only two roses I have that I consider to be without any discernible scent - the other 'scentless' rose is the climber 'Pierre de Ronsard' ( aka Eden). I'm about to get an own root Margaret Merril - another white floribunda that has a beautiful perfume, it also grows to about 5 feet tall and the flower shape is really delightful - it's sometimes tinged pale pink (which also happens to my Iceberg, too).
Maybe Margaret Merril might be worth considering? Here's a link to it on Help Me Find -
Margaret Merril floribunda rose
Cheers
Tricia
Very interesting article. As damp as we are we see very little downy mildew around here so the pictures were good to see. Early spring and late fall are our worst times for botrytis. Lots of rain, warm days, cool nights and...bingo, botrytis. Along with some other blights as well.
In regard to the concern that mixing whites will make other whites look "dirty" .. here is my thought. I was disappointed in the very first white that I planted. I cant even remember what it is bc it was so long ago and the label has since disintegrated. It has an offwhite pink tinge to it and I was looking for pure white. However, now that I have the white that I had been searching for (Sugar Moon), rather than take away from the garden it adds variety, and I am actually very happy with the result. The flowers on this rose is much smaller however grows in greater flourishes (oftentimes growing in clusters). SM is a taller rose usually with an elegant stem while this rose is more bushy with smaller leaves and flowers. I see the addition of PJP competing with SM more than this little guy.
I'm about 40 miles from you, less coastal influence. The only disease I get with PJPII is rust in the fall. An awful lot of roses rust in the fall here. It blooms heavily in several cycles over the season.
All this does not mean that Sugar Moon may not also be a fine rose. There is more than one excellent rose in each category. HTs are not my main focus and I only have a few. But PJPII is definitely my favorite white. YMMV, and that is as it should be.
Rosefolly
In England, roses are almost always sold budded. In marginal conditions, it makes a big, enormous, incredible difference. I don't bother with own-root Austins any more, and invariable, nice specimens posted here from the northeast are grafted.
Also, remember DA is the person who recommends his roses be grown in groups of three. Most people here consider that some sort of sick joke. I have always suspected there is some truth to it.
I am not expecting winterkill to be part of the issue.
Most roses including Austins are budded onto Dr. Huey rootstock. What I've seen in my acidic soils is that Dr. Huey doesn't like acidic soils, and (think about the alkalin playa lake beds they are produced in, in Wasco California) and read about Dr. Huey doing best in alkalin soils.
Then look at all the multilflora that grows in Rhode Island and Connecticut. That Mulitiflora loves acidid soils.
The failure to thrive may be as simple as being the wrong rootstock for the garden.
Wow, I take for granted that I don't have deer problem. This is one of the reason why I like this forum, to see what people around the world faces as they grow our favourite rose. Having said that, your roses are quite the gems on the crown in your garden.
They seem to be gone...over a dozen just flew away. But! I'm keeping my eye on this ewwww- ugly earwig and letting him have his way with this bloom to see if he is eating unseen pests or will destroy my flower. Can't see him here, but the dark specks are probably his " debris". Blagh.
I definitely like dark red. My friend's Black Magic has very small blooms, but perhaps it's not mature. It's about 3.5 feet tall and in a pot. I think it will take off nicely once planted in the ground. The Colorific is beautiful, but I will admire it in my friend's garden. Thanks for helping me decide. These decisions are tough, but part of the fun of rose growing :)
Hi Hello! I noticed you didn't get a huge response to your Q, and wondered if you might have better luck if you reposted it on the Antique Roses Forum. There's often a wider choice amongst the older roses when disease-resistance, easy-care and great perfume are all important factors.
Your combination of specifications is actually a little tricky, which may be part of the reason for a shortage of suggestions here. For example, good/reliable repeat bloom PLUS rosehips is not very common - off the top of my head, I can't actually think of ANY climbers or ramblers that do this; and hips often don't set reliably anyway unless there's a chilly winter - being in Australia, I'm not sure if you get that in Alabama. However, there ARE a number of other options for attracting/helping wildlife, so long as you don't use insecticides and other poisons; for example, in Spring some birds may stop by for a tasty snack of aphids, and bees will enjoy single and semi-double flower-types - the kind where you can see the stamens in the middle. Birds will sometimes nest in a big thick rambler, too.
You don't state the size (height and width) of your privacy fence/the area you want this rose to cover - I would suggest adding that, plus the maximum depth out from the fence that's available in this spot. Also, for folks like me (and there are a few of us), if you could give more detailed info on your climate, that would be a great help - your US Zone if you know it, average Summer and Winter temperature range and some indication of when/how much humidity and rain you get (I'm thinking Alabama = fairly steamy!??).
So, my advice is, try posting again on the ARF, including those extra details, and I'm sure the combined brains of all the crazy rose nuts/experts on there will be able to come up with a great solution for you - perhaps with just a teeny bit of compromise on your full list of specs. They'll also be able to help with any queries you may have about when and where to buy, planting and maintenance of your new baby! Good luck!
Comtesse :¬)
Every variety has it's own internal bloom cycle timing so if they're the same variety they would probably have about the same bloom time. That may vary some by location but would probably be fairly close in most cases. If they're purchased in approximately the same size and condition and planted at the same time it stands to reason they would bloom around the same time. If they were purchased at different times they may not sync until the next spring when they would be starting out in the same conditions.
Good point Seil. In my garden I've had Belinda's Dream in various areas all planted on different years and as soon as I say blooms in one, all the others bloomed at the same time. Today I was walking around the yard and I'm taken aback by a red rose. When I look, it's Alec's Red. I keep tending to the garden when I come across another impressive red. Low and behold, the red rose is also Alec's red. I find this fascinating. My wonder, and the reason I posted this, is to learn whether others have had the same experience.
'Bolero' should do very well for you. It is beautiful, very fragrant, and has a low, spreading habit. I would recommend 'Munstead Wood' for the red except it is extremely thorny. It is bushy, not tall, with gorgeous fragrant crimson-purple flowers.
I have seen Valentine for years at Chamblees and finally bought one this spring. Its still in its gallon pot but is out-blooming everything. I would bet this would be a great rose for a pot - blooming constantly. It is a shrub type rose I think, which would look great in a pot.