22,151 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

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arlene_82 (zone 6 OH)

I agree, much more sun is probably what my Julia needs since that spot probably gets less than 6 hours per day. What looks like grass at the base is actually creeping phlox, which is rooted about a foot away and I cut it back each year, but it does like to grow back in her direction. It's also a raised bed which probably doesn't help either. I have a sunny spot reserved for her in front of the house, and I do believe she will moving this fall :)

    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 11:54AM
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cleangeek(Zone 9)

Getting back to humidity: if you live in a humid area you still need to water, humidity doesn't effect the roots. Plants get most of their water from the roots.

Always use the finger test no matter where you live: stick your finger in the soil up to your knuckle, if it's dry then water. My grandparents were farmers(who lived in the humid Midwest) and taught me that trick when I was a child.

    Bookmark     June 15, 2015 at 8:37AM
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Trisha Spare

Thank you all so much for this valuable information!!!

    Bookmark     June 15, 2015 at 6:40AM
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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

No, chemical fertilizers don't cause blackspot. A weak plant can be more succeptible to an outbreak.

OK, thanks! I know a lot of rose growers in SE PA, from Chambersburg to Philly. The fungicide that Meredith_e provided is one that has been successful for many people. Make sure to get this specific product and not one of the combination (fungicide/insecticide/fertilizer) products. It is best to start early in the season, but the Bayer fungicide can help with stopping the progression of the blackspot infection, and help suppress future outbreaks.

seil's guidance on handling insects is spot on. Also the note on determining your tolerance for blackspot, and whether the plant defoliates (loses all of the leaves) or not.

Sorry if we seem like inquisitors, but the info was important for us, as what might be useful in SE PA might not be in NE CA. :-)

    Bookmark     June 15, 2015 at 6:55AM
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Missy, Traverse City, Mi Z5

Thanks for the info, everyone. . Seil, I had not sprayed them with anything until now. I sprayed for Mildew today, hope it solves the problem.

    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 8:21PM
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jasminerose4u, California(9b)

Looks like you have a Hoverfly (scroll up) in your photo, also known as Allograpta obliqua. The larvae eat aphids and thrips. The adults are important pollinators.

    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 9:46PM
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seil zone 6b MI

That plant is not getting enough water or nutrients. It looks like there's been some kind of root damage. Do you have moles or voles or anything the burrows and eats roots in your area?

    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 6:29PM
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Jasmyne Fisher

Thanks jim1961. I'm in Virginia, zone 7a!Roses are beautiful, I really like the Double Red! I'm a very visual person so that helped! I guess I noticed it so much as it just really started blooming, now it's blooming so much it's going in waves and starting to look better.

1 Like    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 3:54AM
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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

Jasmyne Fisher, your rose bush is young yet it should bloom even better/more with age...

1 Like    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 6:10PM Thanked by Jasmyne Fisher
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seil zone 6b MI

Heat will make them open quicker than usual. Cool slows them down. That's why exhibitors refrigerate their roses to keep them from opening too soon. I've had some of that off and on too. One day it's 85 and the next it's 65. On the 65 day they sit. On the 85 day they blow open fast. High humidity will also cause some thin petaled roses to stick together and not open. It's called balling. I get rid of those around here because my humidity is always high.

1 Like    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 5:53PM Thanked by nickjoseph
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rosecanadian

professorroush - I really enjoyed your garden musings!! Thank you very much for the link!

Carol

    Bookmark     June 13, 2015 at 10:27AM
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professorroush(6A)

My pleasure. I hope you enjoy the info and the writing!

    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 4:05PM
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densiemill

Agre this is one lovely rose. Such a distinct pink

    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 5:57AM
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parker25mv

The pink almost looks fluorescent, similar to Electron.

    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 3:41PM
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fragrancenutter(Zone 10b)

I am so glad someone asked this question. I was wondering about the same thing for a long time and could not figure it out! Thank you!

    Bookmark     May 18, 2015 at 6:53AM
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ellatiarella(SW Mich 6a)

bumping this up. To quote Mad Gallica:

If you click on Your Houzz, then click Edit Profile, then click Advanced Settings, a field for USDA zone will show up near the bottom. FIll it in with what you would like to show, then click Update Settings.

    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 3:03PM
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dan8_gw (Northern California Zone 9A)

Why is Mister Lincoln so intensely fragrant this morning? Sometimes the scent can be really faint but this morning it's really powerful. What are usually the conditions that make the fragrance more powerful? I haven't been able to find a trend.

It's been so hot and dry here lately that the flowers are burnt up.

    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 1:41PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Lovely HT roses, Growing rose without BS now that would be nice. Hope rust never shows up here.

    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 2:04PM
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seil zone 6b MI

For the most part those roses look healthy to me. Do deadhead them and take off the yellow leaves and clean up any that have fallen and that will neaten things up considerably. If you've been experiencing the high temperatures, like most of us have, that could be part of he problem. Keep them well watered and give them a break. They might just be suffering from heat stress.

1 Like    Bookmark     July 13, 2012 at 7:13AM
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lmorella
Here is a normal one that gets a couple of yellow leaves hear & there. Too much water will mess these roses up; i.e., that's why they do best with light watering, like near the base.
Never water roses from top, as that can make it more prone to brown spot.
I like to remove spent roses, as you would a regular rose. Esp if they're getting too big, but that's me. I think it keeps them healthy
    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 2:02PM
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beaverfoot

Quail are causing problems here in Nevada in this drought. They are pecking my roses (the new ones) bare and I don`t know if some of them will live. This had never happened before. Now I have black netting around them from Home Depot. I tried the spinning pin wheels you get from $ Tree. That didn`t help. I have 3 tomato plants (no tomatoes yet) and one of them they are pecking. I found it lying on it`s side this morning. I put out a bird feeder, but the ones who flock to it are robins, so the quail are not eating from it. I too have a problem with the birds messing up the bird bath, and I am out there cleaning it up every day. I keep smelling saw dust from my bedroom and wonder if it`s a woodpecker. Oh, the problems of summer!

    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 10:37AM
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jkellydallas(8a)

If you don't have grackles, count your blessings. They are noisy and can be aggressive if they think you are too close to their nest. I used to get dive bombed every morning as I crossed the street.

I live in an old neighborhood with lots of big trees and therefore, birds. They are everywhere, all kinds. I've seen a hawk snatch a morning dove in flight leaving a cloud of feathers. The most entertaining is the mockingbird who sounds like a car alarm.

    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 10:44AM
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noseometer...7A...ABQ

What about 'Constellation'? It is a miniature rose, flowers a little more than 2" across, and said to be strongly fragrant. I just planted one, and it is nicely fragrant, unlike many minis. Flowers open with a yellow center, which fades. For me, 'Bolero' is turning out to be a dud, petals are always fried or damaged (botrytis?) and the bloom form can be gorgeous and perfect, but more often lopsided. I hear that 'Pure Perfume' is also small and fragrant, but J&P is always sold out when I want to buy one. What about 'White Licorice'? Starts out yellow, but in the hot sun turns white.

Here's the 'Constellation' that I just bought.

Bolero always looks like this for me, even in my dry climate, or maybe because of it. Even the buds have brown edges:

    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 9:00AM
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Desertgarden-Las Vegas, Z8b/9a

Noseometer,

Thank you for the suggestions and images.

I grew Pure Perfume and Bolero at my last home. I was not knocked out by Pure Perfume, although it was very healthy and can take a lot of summer heat. Bolero was stellar, but, it received filtered sun though a African Sumac during the hottest part of the day.

I actually completely changed the color scheme and made the area outside of that window a lavender rose bed.

Lynn

    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 10:35AM
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SMC Zone 5

I love seeing pictures of what people grow. ...

Absolutely lovely ... looking at the beauty of your flowers and your artistry in arranging them makes me feel very happy and content. I can almost smell them!

    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 5:35AM
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Sara-Ann Z6B OK

All of those arrangements are so pretty, such a joy to see them. There are some very gifted people on this forum!

    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 10:07AM
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irisgal_z9

I did some reading and found out they fall to the ground to pupate and then the new sawfly lays eggs for another batch.

    Bookmark     May 20, 2015 at 11:15PM Thanked by Michaela .:. thegarden@902 .:. (Zone 5b - Iowa)
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jjpeace (zone 5 US/zone 6 Can)

I finally found my answer. I noticed that all my newly planted roses have sawfly. I first noticed the sandy coloured spotted leaves. I just snipped them off and hope it helps. I am beginning to regret buying all my roses from the same nurseries. It seems the new ones are getting sawfly and rrd.

    Bookmark     June 14, 2015 at 9:31AM
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