22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses
Kippy, you will love it. They opened another section of the Chinese garden so now you can go all around the little lake and see the pagodas and bridges from other views. My roses are still going so I would guess theirs are too. Pasadena got spared from the nasty wind.
There is a very good bakery called Fredericos on the East side of Allen Ave. ( the street that leads into the Huntington's main gate) If you are using that street to reach the 210, you will pass right by it. It's on the right side on the corner as you come out of the neighborhoods .
I went to the open house at Sherman Gardens today
This is Spice Twice
Below is a link to a tour of the Sherman today
Here is a link that might be useful: Today at the Sherman
Oh Boy. I have both of those roses and they are both in my top 5 most floriferous, healthy and beautiful roses. Parade gets HUGE blooms in the fall that quarter and Ivor's (so glad they renamed it Flamenco) is never ever without many many blooms. Healthy as a horse and vigorous. Give Flamenco lots of room and stand back. You got some good ones. The photo is Parade, and she is still covered in buds and blooms.
Susan
I think the Italian light might support more vivid contrasts so would consider pairing that grey/purple with euphorbia characias. The glaucous and sculptural euphorbia leaves, and the acid green bracts would do a sterling job of hiding RiB's gaunt and bare legs (it is a tall, thrusting rose) and contrasting really well. You might also have a bit of fun with the annual thunbergias - the plain orange and black thunbergia alata twines rather nicely about RiB. Although, I sort of recall you saying any colour but orange.....was that you?
Bronze fennel, at all stages of growth, will also melt and soften the angularity of this rose while framing the remarkable blooms - a wonderful colour which allows us to compromise about it's awkward coltishness....maybe add some of the white umbellifers to froth around - dip a toe in by sowing some ammi or orlaya - still time to do this now, sowing directly in the soil, for fat blossom next year which will flower at the same time as RiB's first flush. They do seed about but are easily spotted and hoed out.
For a complementary rose, look no further than Cowlishaw's earlier foray into 'blue' roses with the delicately lovely Odyssey. Not always easy to find (C.K.Jones in the UK) but from the same stable as RiB but with a smaller habit and good all-round health - a soft lilac not too far from Legrice's experiments with cool mauve roses...and the same generous stamens. Or, I have been hovering over Visser's 'Minerva' - a darker 'Blue for You' (now there's a thought?). I grew a neat annual nicotiana, 'Langsdorfii a couple of years ago....and that would be another greenish tubular flower (looks better than it sounds) to grow with RiB. You could also do that Hidcote thing of red and purple.....an audacious scarlet such as Home Run, geums, potentillas.......
Lee asked about Prospero's growth habit.
It is a slow-growing, very upright quite twiggy rose which does not take kindly to "normal" pruning. In fact, it is best treated like a China, and pruned minimally. Removal of dead growth is about all it needs.
It does not arch nor spread. After several years, our budded plants are about 4-ft. tall.
Jeri
I was trying to find it grafted a couple of years ago and had no luck. At that time, Roses Unlimited had it own root. Their website still lists it , but you have to call or email them for actual stock status of their roses. I've ordered OGR/antique roses from RU and been very pleased with their roses and service. I normally prefer to get my modern roses grafted, so haven't ordered any of those from them. I've never seen anything but positive comments posted about RU, though.
I purchased a couple last year from Roses Unlimited. They are an awesome place to buy from. You can call or email them and they will answer you back quickly. They are my most favorite online rose nursery. Nice nice folks there. You will LOVE Heaven on Earth. I would suggest buying 2. Or 3. Mine is the fastest repeater. Love love love it!! Judy
Here is a link to a full paper. Of interest is the picture of a diseased rose and the finding that this virus is whitefly transmitted.
" Our results showed that the virus was transmitted by whiteflies in a persistent manner and caused systemic leaf curling and stunting on host plants (Table 1)."
http://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007%2Fs13314-014-0147-9.pdf
Here is a link that might be useful: link for above
From our county which is a major producer of tomatoes, there used to be no problems with white flies. Winter got 'em.
Then farmers started extending their tomato season (and getting more $$$ for the out of season vine ripened tomatoes) by growing their earliest tomatoes in poly houses, and along with the $$$ came some major white fly problems.
Fortunately the tomato growin' is about twenty to thirty miles down wind of my roses.
I had Jasmina for 2 or 3 seasons and got rid of it. Thorny and coarse with not too many flowers and the bunches hang on the ends of the stems drooping. I thought I would like this one, but not for me. Sorry for the negatives. Very hardy as I could tell here, we had some bad winters at the time. Hope you like it a lot more.. I perhaps should have grown it through a small tree or large shrub, or somesuch... instead I had it on a fence...not the best place in my view...
I'm in So CA by Disneyland so I can't comment on cold but I like my Jasmina very much. She grows in a Crepe Myrtle tree and the flowers hang down like lovely wisteria blooms. The little stems are thin at first but in a few years will get thicker. I just kept braiding them together until the shoots were thick enough to go straight up without flopping. She still wants to grow sideways sometimes. She has super catchy little hooks so wear old clothes gloves and goggles. I don't get any rebloom but maybe because I cant get up there to cut off the old flowers. This is probably most spectacular on a low fence where she can spread wide and you can remove the old blooms. I have her growing high because the flower clusters hang down and I like looking up into them.
In bloom this is one beautiful shrub/climber
Seil and KR - I'm sure I've had late growth like this, I've never noticed it to this extent before though. I recall a few times having a few blooms in late November and maybe early December. Kentucky Rose - Your frosty rose pictures were gorgeous. I think Saturday morning it got down to about 28. At least for the next week we're supposed to have highs in the 60's and lows probably in the mid 40's. We're supposed to have rain Monday evening into Tuesday. I have a few large buds that haven't opened yet, not many though. Souvenir de la Malmaison has several that I think will open in a few days. I can't wait to see what they look like this time of year.
The canes still look green. Try potting it up and see if it recovers. You'll need to keep it moist but not soggy and don't fertilize it until you see new leaves forming. In your cold zone it may not get any new growth now until next spring. Keep it very well protected for winter and see what happens.
The white stuff looks like some sort of insect infestation causing a variety bark scale, which can be scrubbed off, and the winter should take care of it shortly. I'm new to roses, but I've seen it on other shrubs like crape myrtles and azaleas.
You planted roses in the hottest part of the year if you planted them only 3 months ago. Three months ago was July 30th. They look toasted and no wonder. They are struggling to get going. They'll look better and grow better if we get some winter rains. The cooler weather will improve their looks greatly and you should see significant improvement by next April. That would be the time to start fertilizing.
Mulch. It keeps the soil cool, helps keep the soil moist, and as it breaks down adds nutrients to the soil.
I had some nice blooms open up--Gemini was almost at exhibition stage on Wednesday.
Typically, blooms are done by mid November. But, this year I have two dozen bushes in the front yard, where the microclimate is warmer--direct Southern exposure next to a busy road.
It was supposed to get down to 24 degrees here last night, I think it only got down to 28, think the roses are okay now. I'll have a few blooms, but not many. My roses look like they are setting on the spring flush, they are loaded with lots of little buds. I believe the almost spring like temps, combined with the rainfall made them think it was spring, I hope they don't get confused when it's really spring. LOL!
In a place that warm, they won't go dormant. If you can arrange a light setup - simple hanging fluorescents - it should work quite well.
if they are still outside, they are in the process of going dormant NOW. Roses in any pots usually do not do well outside because the root system is not insulated by the surrounding earth. I overwinter many dormant potted and tree roses in my garage, but it is not fully heated because I do not open the vents. At 35-40 degress, they have 99% survival rate. Can you open a window or something to keep it a smidge cooler. Dormancy also requires decreasing light. Try to mimic mother nature.
And i would not judge anything by last winter.
best luck and keep us posted