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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

We applied some homemade compost to Thomas Affleck today... TA is settled in and doing well...

Pic taken yesterday...

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sam 5a Adirondack

That should grow the roots nice.

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muks29

Hi.

A red streak running from the thorn prick sounds to me like sporothrix schenki infection commonly known as rose gardeners disease. Its treatable and a simple fungal infection. I may be wrong.

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titian1 10b Sydney

I was at the doctor's for something else the other day, and just happened to mention a rose thorn in my finger that was throbbing. She blanched and said "had I heard of the surgeon who got a rose thorn in his finger, and lost his arm as a result?"

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nippstress - zone 5 Nebraska

The first rose looks a fair bit like Birthday Girl, which I have, but the parentage is unknown there as well. Perhaps Cliff will chime in about Mrs. Robinson - he pops in here from time to time. From what I can tell, since he listed the lineage as 'seedlingXseedling' he may not be able to trace the lineage either.

Lovely seedlings though!
Cynthia

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sutekesh Switzerland(6a)

Thanks Cynthia!

Had a look at Birthday Girl - lovely rose! I like the frilly petals. I don't think mine is going to develop more petals though. This is the third blooming and the only change has been that the colour has become more intense.

Would be nice if Cliff Orent could comment though....

Sharlene

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Suzi AKA DesertDance So CA Zone 9b

I just started a thread in the Kitchen Table Forum about why those people need our help. They have lost EVERYTHING! Some have lost their schools and their jobs. Fire is unpredictable and the drought has made it worse.

Please clean out your closets and donate what you can. Imagine life without anything but the clothes you have on your back.

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mustbnuts zone 9 sunset 9

I posted a picture over on the antique rose forum of what it looked like on Thursday last week. I don't live close to the fires (maybe about 30 miles away) but the wind shifted and we were getting all of the ash and very bad air. Lots of warnings to stay indoors as the air was hazardous. If you had to go outdoors they encouraged you to wear a surgical mask. It was awful. The soot and smoke was from a fire that had consumed over 200 square miles and was only (at the time) less than 30% contained. Firefighters are exhausted. It has been relentless. My roses have been covered in soot and ash. It has been over 105 degrees for a week prior to this one. It has been a long, hot and smokey summer.

The weather finally turned on Monday and we got unexpected drizzle off and on during the day. It was WONDERFUL! Here is a picture from last week. It is about 8:30 in the morning. Picture was taken outside of where I work with my cell phone looking at the sun.

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john11840(z6/CT)

Thanks Seil. I think (???) I must have the 2002 Carruth floribunda.

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roseseek(9)

Your foliage looks like the Carruth rose. Hot Cocoa has quite glossy leaves compared to Hot Chocolate.

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seil zone 6b MI

The cactus soil should work OK. Some people will add sand and perlite to their mix so that should be fine. I wouldn't use the orchid mix because it's too chunky and won't retain enough moisture.

Yes, outside is always best for roses. Since it's late in the season you could wait for spring to repot it. Let it go completely dormant before putting it in winter storage. An unheated, insulated garage works best, off the concrete and watered some monthly. If you don't have a garage you can sink the entire pot in the ground and mulch the plant for winter.

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A S

I'm sorry, what do you mean to let it go completely dormant before putting it into garage?

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

I'm sorry it was mad's photo above.

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

I don't see any photos from Mad in this thread?

By the way our Marigolds are still going strong...Took this pic recently...These things bloom heavy non stop...

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henry_kuska

Sammy, interesting that you should mention ant killer. This appeared on CNN this morning.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/14/health/pesticide-exposure-childhood-cancer/index.html

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Well said Sammy.

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roseseek(9)

You should also avoid any rose which suckers wildly as a stock. At one time, some European nurseries used Rugosa stems to generate standards, but they would eventually sucker all over the yard. You think Huey suckers? LOL!

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henry_kuska

I would suggest trying root stocks that are rose rosette virus resistant. For some other plants this has worked in increasing the resistance of the whole plant.

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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

Susan, what is the concern? That they aren't going to get enough chill hours? I wouldn't expect it to be an issue.

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Poorbutroserich Susan Nashville

Yes Mad. That was the concern. Didnt know if i should try for the highest coldest place. Northern exposure? Shade? Just put them on margins of woodlands? Thanks!

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Sylvia Weiser Wendel

Thanks, everyone. The Palatine catalog shows both Moonstone and Devoniensis as floribundas; that's what I was going by in my original post.

Anyone have an alternative suggestion? I'm still looking for a white floribunda with pink or apricot centers. French Lace?

Roseseek, I am in a very hot and dry climate with almost no fog. We do get some mildew in the spring, but usually it is of short duration and not too damaging. As for mixing teas with moderns, I haven't tried that and I probably won't, My two tea roses are on their own: Marie Van Houtte in a raised bed (where she is thriving) and Souvenir de Mme. Leonie Vientot in a very large pot (where she is growing like mad but not blooming -- there was a thread on this about 6 weeks ago). I should be getting Gilbert Nabonnand from Heirloom any day now; that will also go in a pot.

Sometimes I think about having only teas -- especially when I look at my uglier HT bushes, i.e. Mr. Lincoln -- but I have a front yard full of healthy HTs and floribundas right now, and couldn't bear to rip them out for an uncertain future.

Buford, I admit to falling in love with Moonstone when I saw it at an exhibition. Blackspot is usually not a issue here.

One reason why I posted my original question was to sniff out a possible error in Palatine's categorizations. I think I found it!

Sylvia

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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

They must have corrected it. They now have Moonstone listed as a HT and Devoniensis as an OGR. One of the Fairy Tale roses might work for you.

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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

I wasn't able to attend due to working on the rose show, but I'll see if I can shake loose any info.

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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Beautiful!!!

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kentucky_rose zone 6

Amazing....30 year old bush!

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roseseek(9)

Thanks Carol. I'm aware of that, but mine aren't interested in eating the plants. The neighbor has four dogs and one is addicted to the olives from her tree. Fortunately Molly spits out the pits, but they're also not good for dogs. Trying to keep that rat away from the fruit is a real chore. I'm so happy mine aren't interested in any which fall over the fence.

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rosecanadian

Yeah, roseseek, mine aren't either. Yes, it makes life sooooo much easier when the dogs (I have 3) don't get into stuff that's not good for them.

That's weird that a dog would like olives. Wouldn't think it would be very yummy for a dog.

Carol

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fduk_gw UK zone 3 (US zone 8)

Star performer this year is an unkown white probably floribunda. I never rated it enough to try to name it before but I might rethink that. Slightly scented, sort of vanilla ish.

Honourable mentions to Fancesca, and in the background, Graham Thomas. My baby teas have been amazingly floriferous for first year roses and I suspect that next year my top 3 might look very different!

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Sara-Ann Z6B OK

Holly, your Touch of Class is gorgeous! I don't have that rose, but I gave one to my sister a few years ago and it is a very good bloomer! I love Double Delight, mine is prolific too. Beth, you have some good ones too! Belinda's Dream is a real winner when it comes to blooming, so is Julia Child. Beautiful roses fduk, love your unknown white rose!

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