22,153 Garden Web Discussions | Roses

jbb2179 :

I am still 'green' in the garden as well. I adore roses, and I purchased several roses from Heirloom. I will not lie, and will say that I was awfully disappointed with how small the plants were. I was certain none of them would survive the bi-polar spring Chicago had this year, based on how tiny the plants were. And, because I have not a single clue, I was very wrong :) These plants really grew! Some in leaps and bounds, and others much slower. I had some that are still giving me fabulous blooms. And one plant in particular has about 4 or 5 blooms about ready to open. My main goal this year was not to kill them, which I am very proud to admit, I did not. In the end, they are all great plants. And I was and am very pleased. I do recommend them, and I love that their website has the option to hold a wish list. :)

I attached a picture of the actual plants I started this year.

...also, right now, many of the roses are out of stock, but I was told that after January, they will start taking orders again! Good luck, and do let me know if you go with Heirloom and what you think!

Have been growing roses for 30 years and gradually seem to be losing some every winter. Most of my hybrid teas are gone so am wondering if someone knows of a nursery that sells own root roses which are supposed to be hardier or am I mistaken? Love hybrid teas for picking, but will be happy to just see a garden of roses that don't die in our cold winters often without snow cover. I have always mulched them with dried leaves after it freezes hard. Rose slugs are also a big problem, but will try the merit as suggested in this thread.Thanks for any help. Mary

The linked reference is referring to the native forms that are less invasive.

Yes, I know that but here morning glory and honey suckle grow rampantly and choke out other plants. I've spent years trying to eradicate them from my garden.

If you know of some recycling places near you, some of them have nursery pots. I was at one recently and they had piles of them. I brought a whole bunch back to Lowe's once. The larger pots I keep. I'm not to proud to say that I took two 7 gallon black pots out of my neighbors recycle bin one trash day.

Lol, I've recycled a few pots from the trash too, Buford!

I just wanted to say that this is the best time of year to find those bargains. Most places are trying to get rid of all the summer stuff to make room for Christmas merchandise so they are slashing the prices to move it all. Spring is the worst time!

Was anyone else in awe over the unreleased Ralph Moore miniature rose?

Here is a link that might be useful: https://m.facebook.com/tamuroses/photos/a.113246532164331.20359.107207969434854/297350027087313/?type=1&source=46

Last year, I contacted the dept. if they give tours and maybe cuttings for environmental testing. They said that they do give tours on request (about a month or so in advance, may have changed) but due to legalities, they can't give cuttings. Eh, a half-loaf is better than none, I say!

i have used all of the above methods. If we have another winter like last year, I will add prayerðÂÂÂ

Have any of you used wilt-proof? I use it all the time for transplanting in summer, and it is supposed to help with winter dessication. I've only used in on more tender plants in winter, roses don't need extra help here (PNW)--I just bury them deep.

Pickering going own-root would be a sad loss.

There are an awful lot of roses that are pretty much ungrowable in the north without a rootstock to push them. IME, that includes everything that usually suffers cane dieback over the winter. So if everybody goes own-root, there will be a major cutback in what can be grown where, and a lot more roses will not be available commercially because they can't sell enough of them.

I just put in a good-sized order (12 plants) with Heirloom Roses. I like the selection there (what isn't sold out yet!), and being in the PNW, I figured the roses would do well with shipping, etc..I'm also thinking that own-root is the way to go now if the climate isn't too cold. I'm a bit nervous because I've never gotten the band pots before--are they going to be tiny? They are going directly in the garden with cages around them (lovely, huh?). Super excited to have roses again!

After I started collecting Old Garden Teas, (mostly from the 1800's) I found it hard to go back to H.T.s, as Hybrid Teas bloom less often and need more feeding, and far more pruning than Tea rosebushes.
After a decade without them, I'm finally ready to grow a few Hybrid Teas.

Lux.

I really like the variety of shape that comes with OGRs. When I very first started growing roses (not that long ago) I first bought several HTs and similar types, just because that was all that was available locally, so that is all I knew of, but after i got them all planted & paired with companion plants, I was underwhelmed by how rigidly tall and awkwardly "leggy" they were. I have since added some Austin's and a few OGRs (already have several more the way too) and I much prefer their fuller, more rounded shapes, they look pretty nice even when they aren't in bloom (something I would neve say about a HT). I guess it depends on the type of garden you want to have though, I much prefer the informal "cottage" style gardens someone else mentioned above, I think having a mish mash of color and texture is much more interesting than formal rows, where as someone else may find it sloppy.. To each their own!

Jessica

Some hybrid teas will grow like that too. They were bred to have those long sturdy stems for cutting. It doesn't sound like there is anything wrong except that it's healthy and happy! I don't think you should cut them all the way down now. It's too late in the season. Just let them grow for now and store as much energy as they can for the winter. In the spring you'll be able to tell how far down they need to be pruned. You may lose most or all of that cane depending on how your winter is but it should grow back again next season.

Yes, there are some super-vigorous hybrid teas like 'Frederic Mistral' and 'Traviata' that can grow 8' in a season with straight, upright canes. If that is what she has, my pruning advice wouldn't apply. Best approach is to take long stems after each bloom cycle and try to keep the flowers within reach (7'). These roses would be pruned fairly low in spring, and zone 5 winter damage would require severe spring pruning.

Gingesnap was my first ever rose that got the shovel. Beutiful flower and lovely fragrance, but it had trouble to keep its leaves and got ENTIRELY naked soon after the spring flush. Here, it needs to be sprayed, perhaps regularly.

I rented a home near san francisco, ca which had a Gingersnap in the garden, and I was impressed with how disease resistant it was where I lived. It had a very long bloom season for a modern rose, from late April through Halloween, or later and bloomed in spring, summer and autumn, and the blooms were a perfect color for Halloween. Very floriferous.

Lux.

Mad Gallica it was horrible lol! It did come back with one tiny cane this spring, and then died. We had multiple -16F days and windchills in excess of -20. It was in full bloom, freak storm came through with freezing rain in Nov? I think, and it was all downhill from there. I'm not sure if that's what did it in or not. Oddly enough, I lost an old shrubby Yew just down the patio from this rose that has withstood some horrible winters. I'm in NW Chicago burbs, and a lot of people lost well established, zone appropriate plants last year. I wouldn't hesitate to plant it again, I think last year was just an anomaly.

I'm also in the NW suburbs of Chicago. I loved the Easy Elegance roses when they first came out. I had two young ones that died in the summer drought we had two years ago. They were guaranteed for two years and I did get my money back after I had to 'remind them' I was waiting. LOL
I had two o thers that came through our bad winter last year although one was not hurt at all and the other one is only about t wo inches high and never grew this summer. The good thing about these roses is that they don't seem to get any blackspot, but I'm not as crazy about them anymore.

I grew it this year, nice deep red, set lots of buds, quite vigorous. But it is not BS resistant, its full of BS from top to bottom, and I sprayed it a few extra times. The worst of any I grow.

I had one several years ago and BS was the reason I Sp'd it. I did like the blooms.

I have ordered THREE Karlsruhes, mendocino. I am so glad that Friends of Vintage Roses is helping to conserve these living treasures. I can't say anything to help about cuttings, nastrana,having little to no experience,but was wondering: could you try layering one of your Karlruhe's branches? (not sure if I've used the right term, but what I mean is burying part of a branch of the plant that includes bud eyes ,weighing it down if necessary,and letting the end of it stick up out of the soil,then keeping it watered and waiting patiently to see if it roots) I seem to remember that it's habit would permit this. I have had luck in reproducing roses this way,though am not at all sure if all kinds will do this...bart

Is this rose still available? Wish I could get one. It's a beauty.