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Sylvia Weiser Wendel

Thanks, everyone. The Palatine catalog shows both Moonstone and Devoniensis as floribundas; that's what I was going by in my original post.

Anyone have an alternative suggestion? I'm still looking for a white floribunda with pink or apricot centers. French Lace?

Roseseek, I am in a very hot and dry climate with almost no fog. We do get some mildew in the spring, but usually it is of short duration and not too damaging. As for mixing teas with moderns, I haven't tried that and I probably won't, My two tea roses are on their own: Marie Van Houtte in a raised bed (where she is thriving) and Souvenir de Mme. Leonie Vientot in a very large pot (where she is growing like mad but not blooming -- there was a thread on this about 6 weeks ago). I should be getting Gilbert Nabonnand from Heirloom any day now; that will also go in a pot.

Sometimes I think about having only teas -- especially when I look at my uglier HT bushes, i.e. Mr. Lincoln -- but I have a front yard full of healthy HTs and floribundas right now, and couldn't bear to rip them out for an uncertain future.

Buford, I admit to falling in love with Moonstone when I saw it at an exhibition. Blackspot is usually not a issue here.

One reason why I posted my original question was to sniff out a possible error in Palatine's categorizations. I think I found it!

Sylvia

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Buford_NE_GA_7A(7B)

They must have corrected it. They now have Moonstone listed as a HT and Devoniensis as an OGR. One of the Fairy Tale roses might work for you.

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diane_nj 6b/7a(6b/7a)

I wasn't able to attend due to working on the rose show, but I'll see if I can shake loose any info.

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Prettypetals_GA_7-8

Beautiful!!!

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kentucky_rose zone 6

Amazing....30 year old bush!

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roseseek(9)

Thanks Carol. I'm aware of that, but mine aren't interested in eating the plants. The neighbor has four dogs and one is addicted to the olives from her tree. Fortunately Molly spits out the pits, but they're also not good for dogs. Trying to keep that rat away from the fruit is a real chore. I'm so happy mine aren't interested in any which fall over the fence.

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rosecanadian

Yeah, roseseek, mine aren't either. Yes, it makes life sooooo much easier when the dogs (I have 3) don't get into stuff that's not good for them.

That's weird that a dog would like olives. Wouldn't think it would be very yummy for a dog.

Carol

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fduk_gw UK zone 3 (US zone 8)

Star performer this year is an unkown white probably floribunda. I never rated it enough to try to name it before but I might rethink that. Slightly scented, sort of vanilla ish.

Honourable mentions to Fancesca, and in the background, Graham Thomas. My baby teas have been amazingly floriferous for first year roses and I suspect that next year my top 3 might look very different!

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Sara-Ann Z6B OK

Holly, your Touch of Class is gorgeous! I don't have that rose, but I gave one to my sister a few years ago and it is a very good bloomer! I love Double Delight, mine is prolific too. Beth, you have some good ones too! Belinda's Dream is a real winner when it comes to blooming, so is Julia Child. Beautiful roses fduk, love your unknown white rose!

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mary (9b Bay Area CA)

No icebergs at any of the Home Depots around here unfortunately. I'll keep searching locally these next couple weeks. If nothing turns up, I might order own roots from Chamblee's or ARE. I could ask them to send the least prickly plants available ;)

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roseseek(9)

Or prepare your site and wait for the spring availability.

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Ninkasi(6-7 Germany)

I will second Judy's suggestion on Cream Veranda! A very free flowering and easy care rose.

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Poorbutroserich Susan Nashville

Clotilde Soupert!!!

I second Christopher's suggestion of chinas. Also teas, noisettes, hybrid musks. The older roses are far easier to care for and most bloom much more often. Most are more disease resistant as well.

Susan

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SoFL Rose z10

Sounds like they're on Dr. Huey.

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phyllissteen(Sunset Zone 19)

If he's buying from Weeks and Star, then there's a little of both.

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KarenPA_6b

Holly, do you mean hardy geraniums or the annual geraniums?

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jim1961 Zone 6a Central Pa.

nanadollZ7, Marigolds do NOT repel deer here but deer do not eat them...I have Marigolds planted at the cementary deer will eat the petunias right next to the Marigolds but Marigolds are left alone here...

Braverichard, I found 3 Jb's this year and all 3 were on red Double Knockout which doesn't have much of a scent to me... So if they are in the area & hungry they will eat whatever... But they probably prefer some roses/plants over others if given the choice...

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Michelle R

Thank you for your help Seil, I received some other responses for Gene Boerner or Floribunda roses. I've looked up the information and it seems like that is the match!!

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sutekesh Switzerland(6a)

Michelle, I think it is most likely Gene Boerner

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bethnorcal9

I bought one a few months ago, but it ended up dying for some reason.

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jasminerose4u, California 9b

Sorry to hear that, Beth. My friend's roses are small bands, so hopefully they will suvive this hot weather we've been having.

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zack_lau z6 CT

Bloom quality will often improve as the plant matures.

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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

The bloom quality will improve as she gets older. That said it is a semi double and just like singles each bloom is rather short lived. It does getter than a day. I would not put her in less sun. Most likely she will stop blooming. I loved mine but when I quit using sprays I had to give her up.

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Gwen Elliott Farwick

I cut mine back in April to about 18-24" inches and then fertilize when I feel fairly certain a killing frost is behind us. I deadhead daily - cutting back to an outward facing stem of 5 leaves as taught to me by my father - it opens up the growth which should help eliminate disease. Cutting that much back when deadheading keeps growth in check but I do let them get to about 4' high. I don't like them to grow into each other (I have two sets of three along a fence outside a pool) as I want to be able to get around them to deadhead. I also don't like them coming through the wrought iron fence - just a visual preference. Deadheading daily doesn't take much time and is kind of Zen, plus it keeps the blooming going without too much down time after the initial blast of blooms. I fertilize with Root Tone every 6 weeks until August 1st. I don't water them, other than when applying fertilizer and rarely have Blackspot problems. I do hang a Japanese beetle trap in a discreet location nearby.

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JK JK

Beautiful roses. Do you have set up like this ; one pink, one red or is it two red then two pink?

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zack_lau z6 CT

Timing the first bloom of the season is hard. . Later blooms are much easier to time. But, anyone who grows cut roses with a greenhouse undoubtedly has figured out the formula for getting blooms on Mother's Day.

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